Has anyone heard the second LP with the new singer? Is it worth buying?
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 23 October 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 23 October 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)
literally
― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Sunday, 23 October 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 23 October 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Sunday, 23 October 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)
― vinegar (Koens), Sunday, 23 October 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)
― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Sunday, 23 October 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)
....of the best kind.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 23 October 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)
― vinegar (Koens), Sunday, 23 October 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 23 October 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)
Despite the fabulousness of some of Sommerville's Gay Disco Shit, I think his greatest moment is the heartbreakingly sad "For a Friend," which *never* fails to make me cry.
― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Sunday, 23 October 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 23 October 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)
― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Sunday, 23 October 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)
― H (Heruy), Sunday, 23 October 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)
― Cunga (Cunga), Sunday, 23 October 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 23 October 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)
"Why?" is fantastic.
― Tom (Groke), Sunday, 23 October 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)
The video for "Smalltown Boy" was instrumental in getting my partner of the last 20 years to come out - for which much thanks, obviously. :-)
Good to hear that "Hard Rain" has been included in the CD re-issue - it first appeared as the lead track on the NME's first ever non-flexi 7" vinyl covermount EP.
The only other Somerville Bronski LP was the remix collection "Hundreds & Thousands" - patchy, but has its moments, esp. the "aerobics" remix of Heatwave.
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Sunday, 23 October 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)
Wow, I only knew the last couple of chapters of that story. _Hundreds & Thousands_ was the only Bronski Beat LP I actually owned. "Patchy" is a good description. Now I have the Jimmy Sommerville _Singles_ collection (1990), and that seems like plenty.
― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Monday, 24 October 2005 02:02 (twenty years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 October 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 24 October 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)
("Tell Me Why" I don't recall so well, and I don't think I ever heard the Communards.)
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)
Yeah, but Bronski Beat minus Somerville immediately turned into straightforward (and fairly dull) Hi-NRG dance-pop. Somerville contributed songwriting skills and "political consciousness".
The band were also named Bronski beat after Oscar Bronski-Matzerath, the eternally boyish drummer from Gunther Grass's The Tin Drum - thus the name references not only Steve Bronski from the band, but also Somerville's boyish falsetto and the general social subversion effected by Grass's character. (I got this info from a friend of the band at the time.)
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)
Seconded.
― M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 07:17 (twenty years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 27 April 2006 17:34 (twenty years ago)
― that's so taylrr (ken taylrr), Thursday, 27 April 2006 18:34 (twenty years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 28 April 2006 07:28 (twenty years ago)
I saw Jimmy Somerville's solo album from 1989 Read My Lips in the used records bin, I wonder if I should buy it? Has anyone heard it? I think there were some house producers involved, it might be cool to hear him on house tracks.
― Tuomas, Friday, 17 August 2007 09:45 (eighteen years ago)
i've been listening to this album non stop for weeks
― jaxon, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 20:46 (seventeen years ago)
I take it the whole thing is worth hearing. All's I know are the singles.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 20:47 (seventeen years ago)
the obvious standouts are Why and Smalltown boy, but yes, the rest of it is great. i'm trying to pick a less played song to post to my site, but am having a hard time deciding. Junk is pretty great.
― jaxon, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 22:21 (seventeen years ago)
Somerville's falsetto gets a bit tiring after a while, but otherwise the albums is quite good. Especially the CD reissue with all the bonus tracks; of those, the duet version of "I Feel Love/Johnny Remember Me" with Marc Almond and the longer remix of "Heatwave" are both especially great.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 22:22 (seventeen years ago)
Bought this LP for $1 last month; am liking it.
"Heatwave" starts out, very blatantly I think, like Tennessee Ernie Ford's "16 Tons" before getting all handclappy and fingersnappy (which I'm guessing is supposed to symbolize "jazziness".) Anyway, the "16 Tons" thing really took me by surprise, but didn't the British band Redskins also cover it around the same time? Wonder if Brits who were around back then made the connection, or if it's just a coincidence.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 14:13 (sixteen years ago)
Otherwise, I'd say Somerville's falsetto comes off a somehow thin compared to say, Sylvester (his obvious male vocal model.) Which sometimes bugs me, and sometimes doesn't. Actually, in the long run, I may turn out to like the LP's more atmospheric (and therefore maybe beautiful?) "Why" side more than the seemingly more song-oriented "Smalltown Boy" side -- as classic as "Smalltown Boy" is, there's still something about Jimmy's singing that makes the song evaporate into the ether, which is kind of a shame.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 14:19 (sixteen years ago)
And if comparing him to male singers makes no sense, I'd say his voice is also kind of emaciated compared to, say, Donna Summer or Thelma Houston, too.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 14:22 (sixteen years ago)
Whenever I resolve to treat his voice as mere atmosphere it's still not as compelling as the surrounding keyboard whooshes and swoops. I think I've always liked "Smalltown Boy" more in theory than in reality.
― post-contrarian meta-challop 2009 (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 14:27 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah, I can see that. And that's still obviously by far their best song. Prettiest atmosphere is probably in "Screaming" and "Love and Money" -- the latter basically smooth jazz/quiet storm, which sounds considerably less cornball than most of their way campier attempts at old-style show-blues jazz; "It Ain't Necessarily So" strikes me as pretty unbearable. And I actually hedged more than I should have above -- Somverville's not just "somehow" "kind of" thin vocally compared to Sylvester or Donna Summer; he's not anywhere near their neighborhood. ("Narrow dynamic range," Christgau called it in his C+ review, which is definitely a few nothces less than the album deserved, but he still had a point.)
Then again, it's not like narrow voices are a surprise with '80s Brits trying to do r&b or disco -- you could probably say the same, in their own ways, for Boy George (at least compared to say Smokey Robinson) or Martin Fry or even Neil Tennant. Though those guys could all put a song over better than Somerville. And the corny jazz touches are probably par for the course in lots of '80s British pop, too. But still, given all that, I do like the album.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 15:35 (sixteen years ago)
Not sure if "No More War" (which I barely notice when the album's on in the background) is even dumber than Culture Club's "The War Song," or not. (The guy clearly had good intentions, either way.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 15:42 (sixteen years ago)
"The War Song" is actually more interesting harmonically than I remembered. Also: it helps to write a playful anti-war song. Whatever else he is, Jimmy Somerville is not playful.
― post-contrarian meta-challop 2009 (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 15:44 (sixteen years ago)
I just listened to this for the first time (aside from the singles which I know very well), and I liked it too. The edition I heard is a 2006 UK reissue (I think) and has several extra tracks, including a pretty nice "I Feel Love". And on the main album, aside from the two big singles about which no comment is necessary, I agree that "Love and Money" is a standout, its vibe not so far from a Sade track.
― afternoon "delight" (Euler), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 15:57 (sixteen years ago)
Didn't know that the Redskins covered "16 Tons". Wikipedia says it was a 12-inch B-side to "Keep On Keepin' On", which came out a month or so before the Bronski album. (But I only bought the 7-inch, so have never heard it.) Anyhow, yes, "Heatwave" is rather T.E.Ford-esque....
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:08 (sixteen years ago)
Not sure why I knew that, given that I've never owned a Redskins record and barely ever heard them -- maybe I read it somewhere. (Anyway, I'd guess "16 Tons" had something to do with the miner's strike, no?)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:14 (sixteen years ago)
So I wrote a few words on Bronski and Somerville.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:31 (twelve years ago)
thought this was lovely when it became a viral hit ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_DWWE3cjgg
― mark e, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:42 (twelve years ago)
Smalltown Boy pulls off the very rare trick of being utterly heartwrenching and completely danceable. I should probably check out the whole album at some point.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:48 (twelve years ago)
It's worth a listen.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:48 (twelve years ago)
Yup, definitely worth a listen. I agree with those that say that Somerville's falsetto can grate in large doses, but I still very much like this record a lot and I'm glad that they made it. I can imagine this record meant a lot to some back in the '80s.
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Thursday, 25 December 2014 17:06 (eleven years ago)
Owned Age of Consent as a kid, dug it, but never a real big fan... didn't pay much attention to the Communards or any attention to solo Jimi, but decided to read the Richard Coles (other Communards dude) biography because why not?
Paints an interesting picture of Somerville. Listening to more of the post-first Bronski album stuff now and Mr. Soto's comment about Jimmy not being playful is so spot on. A little of his voice goes a long way, but he definitely tends toward the intense.
― mr.raffles, Friday, 20 March 2015 02:16 (eleven years ago)
I like this in Alfred's essay:
A synth pop act covering a Giorgio Moroder-helmed electronic piece was one thing; keeping the spirit of Thelma Houston’s biggest hit with falsetto was another. It’s to Cole and Somerville’s credit that they wanted “Don’t Leave Me This Way” to sound as huge and campy as possible. In the era of Parting Glances and My Beautiful Laundrette – films whose virtues centered on unlisping gay men situated in working class homes and businesses, shot in unwavering democratizing medium shot – Somerville dared to sing as if he were waving a mauve feather boa.
― with HD lyrics (Eazy), Friday, 20 March 2015 04:17 (eleven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs7oV80Wsr4
this right here is some essential shit
― daed bod (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 March 2015 06:48 (eleven years ago)
My EMP paper is in part about Bronski.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 March 2015 10:56 (eleven years ago)
Thanks!