Drive My Car < TaxmanNorwegian Wood > Elennor RigbyYou Won't See Me < I'm Only SleepingNowhere Man > Love You TooThink For Yourself < Here There & EverywhereThe Word > Yellow SubmarineMichelle < She Said She Said
What Goes On < Good Day SunshineGirl > And Your Bird Can SingI'm Looking Through You < For No OneIn My Life > Doctor RobertsWait < I Want To Tell YouIf I Needed Someone < Got To Get You Into My LifeRun For Your Life < Tomorrow Never Knows.
Rubber Soul: 5 pointsRevolver: 9 points
Revolver wins.
― darin (darin), Monday, 24 October 2005 21:30 (twenty years ago)
If I Needed Someone < Got To Get You Into My Life
I think there's a good argument to be made that you have these backwards. As to the former, the existence of the "Anthology" outtakes of the high-as-a-kite Beatles trying to sing AYBCS is a sort of trump card. For the latter, it's closer to a push; IINS is one of the best three or four Beatles tracks George ever wrote.
― monkeybutler, Monday, 24 October 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)
What Goes On = Good Day SunshineGirl > And Your Bird Can SingI'm Looking Through You < For No OneIn My Life > Doctor RobertWait < I Want To Tell YouIf I Needed Someone < Got To Get You Into My LifeRun For Your Life > Tomorrow Never Knows.
7.5 > 6.5 to Rubber Soul.
― vinegar (Koens), Monday, 24 October 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 24 October 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)
― k/l (Ken L), Monday, 24 October 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)
Drive My Car = Taxman (I love 'em both)Norwegian Wood > Elennor RigbyYou Won't See Me = I'm Only Sleeping (love both)Nowhere Man > Love You TooThink For Yourself < Here There & EverywhereThe Word > Yellow SubmarineMichelle < She Said She Said
What Goes On > Good Day SunshineGirl < And Your Bird Can SingI'm Looking Through You > For No OneIn My Life > Doctor RobertsWait = I Want To Tell You (I don't really care for either)If I Needed Someone < Got To Get You Into My LifeRun For Your Life = Tomorrow Never Knows (love both)
So that's 4 whatevs, 6 for Rubber and 4 for Revolver for me.
― miccio (miccio), Monday, 24 October 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Monday, 24 October 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Monday, 24 October 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 24 October 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)
What Goes On < Good Day SunshineGirl < And Your Bird Can Sing (another close one)I'm Looking Through You = For No One (Paul at his best, both times)In My Life > Doctor RobertsWait < I Want To Tell You (both weak, but IWTTY grabs me a bit more)If I Needed Someone > Got To Get You Into My LifeRun For Your Life > Tomorrow Never Knows
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 24 October 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)
― jack dee, Monday, 24 October 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)
If I Needed Someone >> Got To Get You Into My Life
― when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Monday, 24 October 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)
What Goes On < Good Day SunshineGirl < And Your Bird Can SingI'm Looking Through You > For No OneIn My Life < Doctor RobertsWait < I Want To Tell You If I Needed Someone < Got To Get You Into My LifeRun For Your Life < Tomorrow Never Knows
Revolver by a score of 9-5. I'm surprised it was this close, though -- I play Revolver all the time and Rubber Soul not so much. For me the battle between the records is about peaks and valleys: Nothing on Rubber Soul is nearly as good as "She Said, She Said" and "And Your Bird Can Sing," and nothing on Revolver is nearly as bad as "Run For Your Life."
― Guayquil (eephus), Monday, 24 October 2005 22:56 (twenty years ago)
Drive My Car < TaxmanNorwegian Wood > Eleanor RigbyYou Won't See Me < I'm Only SleepingNowhere Man < Love You ToThink For Yourself < Here There & EverywhereThe Word > Yellow SubmarineMichelle < She Said She Said
What Goes On < Good Day SunshineGirl < And Your Bird Can SingI'm Looking Through You > For No OneIn My Life < Doctor RobertWait < I Want To Tell YouIf I Needed Someone < Got To Get You Into My LifeRun For Your Life < Tomorrow Never Knows.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 24 October 2005 23:20 (twenty years ago)
Drive My Car < TaxmanNorwegian Wood < Eleanor RigbyYou Won't See Me = I'm Only SleepingNowhere Man > Love You TooThink For Yourself < Here There & EverywhereThe Word > Yellow SubmarineMichelle > She Said She Said
What Goes On
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 24 October 2005 23:59 (twenty years ago)
What Goes On < Good Day SunshineGirl > And Your Bird Can SingI'm Looking Through You < For No OneIn My Life > Doctor RobertWait < I Want To Tell YouIf I Needed Someone < Got To Get You Into My LifeRun For Your Life < Tomorrow Never Knows
10-4 Revolver
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 00:08 (twenty years ago)
― Sundar (sundar), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 00:29 (twenty years ago)
― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 00:43 (twenty years ago)
What Goes On < Good Day SunshineGirl < And Your Bird Can SingI'm Looking Through You < For No OneIn My Life > Doctor RobertWait > I Want To Tell YouIf I Needed Someone < Got To Get You Into My LifeRun For Your Life < Tomorrow Never Knows.
Revolver takes it, 8.5 - 5.5. But like Guayquil said, the seeming closeness is deceptive; there are no valleys in Revolver, while I find "What Goes On" and "Run For Your Life" utterly unlistenable.
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)
What Goes On < Good Day SunshineGirl < And Your Bird Can SingI'm Looking Through You < For No OneIn My Life > Doctor RobertWait > I Want To Tell YouIf I Needed Someone > Got To Get You Into My LifeRun For Your Life < Tomorrow Never Knows.
Now ...
Eleanor Rigby < TaxmanYou Won't See Me > Love You TooThink For Yourself > The WordShe Said She Said < Good Day SunshineAnd Your Bird Can Sing < For No OneIn My Life > WaitIf I Needed Someone > Tomorrow Never Knows
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 01:01 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 01:36 (twenty years ago)
Drive My Car > TaxmanNorwegian Wood > Eleanor RigbyYou Won't See Me > I'm Only SleepingNowhere Man < Love You TooThink For Yourself > Here There & EverywhereThe Word < Yellow SubmarineMichelle < She Said She Said
What Goes On > Good Day SunshineGirl < And Your Bird Can SingI'm Looking Through You > For No OneIn My Life > Doctor RobertWait > I Want To Tell YouIf I Needed Someone > Got To Get You Into My LifeRun For Your Life < Tomorrow Never Knows
So that's 9 for Rubber Soul and 5 for Revolver, but the best songs are on Revolver ("And Your Bird Can Sing" and "She Said She Said").
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 01:45 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 01:54 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 02:37 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 02:38 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 02:42 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 02:44 (twenty years ago)
― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 03:12 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 03:27 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 03:37 (twenty years ago)
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 03:53 (twenty years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 04:40 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 05:41 (twenty years ago)
― Guayaquil (eephus), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 05:44 (twenty years ago)
― Jez (Jez), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)
What Goes On < Good Day SunshineGirl > And Your Bird Can SingI'm Looking Through You < For No OneIn My Life > Doctor RobertsWait < I Want To Tell YouIf I Needed Someone > Got To Get You Into My LifeRun For Your Life < Tomorrow Never Knows.
A narrow win for "Revolver" (which I would have expected to win more comfortably - the "draw" was lucky for "Rubber Soul" here - for instance, the classic and absolutely wonderful "Michelle" narrowly beating one of the better "Revolver" tracks)
The = is because those are both among my fave Beatles tracks, and there's no way that I'd be able to choose between them.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)
― righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)
I also thought miccio was gonna pick Revolver because of the Elliott Smith namecheck.
― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)
― Burr (Burr), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)
PS: This thread has me feeling like I take Sgt. Pepper for granted.
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)
That said, Rubber Soul wins anyway you stack it. And though it might not be better than Tomorrow Never Knows, Run for Your Life is a pretty cool song, and anyone who says otherwise is a sissy.
― Roe Joe, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)
In My Life < Eleanor RigbyYou Won't See Me < Good Day SunshineMichelle < Got to Get You Into My LifeDrive My Car < I'm Only SleepingThe Word < For No OneWait < Here, There and EverywhereNowhere Man > Tomorrow Never KnowsI'm Looking Through You > And Your Bird Can SingIf I Needed Someone > TaxmanGirl < I Want to Tell YouNorwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown) > She Said She SaidThink for Yourself > Yellow SubmarineRun for Your Life < Doctor RobertWhat Goes On < Love You To
9-5 decision for Revolver.
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)
It's been a while since I've listened to these, but off the top of my head:Drive My Car > TaxmanNorwegian Wood > Eleanor RigbyYou Won't See Me > I'm Only SleepingNowhere Man < Love You TooThink For Yourself > Here There & EverywhereThe Word < Yellow SubmarineMichelle < She Said She Said
But I felt guilty for making a decision on some songs when I wasn't even sure I remembered how they went, so I went back and listened to both albums again (not an unpleasant task). My original impression that Rubber Soul is the stronger album overall was confirmed. Things I'd change: I'd make "The Word" and "Yellow Submarine" a tie, and I'd give "For No One" the edge over "I'm Looking Through You" and "Got to Get You Into My Life" the edge over "If I Needed Someone". That makes the score a much closer match, but with Rubber Soul still coming out ahead, 7-6.
There are things that make me prefer Rubber Soul over Revolver that don't come out in the song-by-song competition. Rubber Soul may not be "soul" in the sense that a soul music fan would acknowledge, but it may be the closest that the Beatles came to it, and there is an organic, loose-limbed feeling to the rhythm section on this album that Revolver, with its occasional stiffness, lacks. Also, Rubber Soul features much better harmony singing from the group. Revolver is notable for its rampant experimentalism, but I think the experiments come at the expense of the band's strengths in some areas. Also, and this is more of a production issue, many of the songs on Revolver seem to fade out too soon.
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 27 October 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)
― silby, Thursday, 1 March 2007 02:29 (nineteen years ago)
I'm going to be a total beatle dork and try to do this matched up by category...
"Rocker": And Your Bird Can Sing beats Drive My Car: REVOLVER"Ballad With Girl's Name": Eleanor Rigby beats Michelle: REVOLVER"Song With Sitar": Love You To beats Norwegian Wood: REVOLVER"Dreary John Song": I'm Only Sleeping is slightly less annoying than Girl: REVOLVER"Ringo Song": I'm willing to give this to What Goes On: RUBBER SOUL"Wheezy George Song": If I Needed Someone CREAMS I Want To Tell You, despite the great bassline on the latter: RUBBER SOUL"Grumpy George Song": Taxman over Think For Yourself, mainly for Paul's solo on the former: REVOLVER"John Angst Song": She Said She Said beats anything in the catalogue, certainly beats Nowhere Man: REVOLVER"John Contemplation Song": Tomorrow Never Knows over In My Life: REVOLVER"Upbeat Paul Song": Between Got To Get You Into My Life and I'm Looking Through You... TIE"Another Paul Song": For No One over You Won't See Me: REVOLVER"Another Rocker": I'm going to be a contrarian and give it to Run For Your Life over Doctor Robert: RUBBER SOULmisc: The Word over Here There & Everywhere: RUBBER SOULmisc2: Good Day Sunshine over Wait: REVOLVER
Nine clean wins for Revolver, four for Rubber Soul, one tie.
Glad that's settled!
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 5 October 2008 20:41 (seventeen years ago)
I still can't be bothered to complete the exercise, but I'll just say that when I was coming up, most of these songs could be found on the same album, Yesterday and Today.― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:43 AM (2 years ago)
me too (raised on my dad's vinyl). so how about a 3-way american-edition contest: rubber soul (released dec.6, '65) vs. yesterday...and today (june 20 '66) vs. revolver (aug. 8, '66)
i've just seen a face > drive my car > taxmannorwegian wood > i'm only sleeping > eleanor rigbyyou won't see me > love you to > nowhere manthink for yourself > here, there and everywhere > doctor robertyesterday > the word > yellow submarineshe said, she said > act naturally > michelleand your bird can sing > good day sunshine > it's only lovefor no one > girl > if i needed someonewe can work it out > i'm looking through you > i want to tell youin my life > what goes on > got to get you into my lifetomorrow never knows > day tripper > wait
"run for you life" is a rubber soul bonus track for the purposes of scoring, since the other two each had 11 tracks.
so, assigning 3 points for first place, 2 for second and 1 for third for each track, that gives me ...
24 for rubber soul vs. 22 for yesterday vs. 20 for revolver.
― tipsy mothra, Monday, 6 October 2008 04:22 (seventeen years ago)
The track sequencing on Revolver is perfect, whereas RS is all over the place. RS also has nothing to touch She said She Said or Tomorrow Never Knows, both totally fresh and still sounding like the future.. Run for your Life? Even Lennon hated that one. Give me Hard Days Night or With the Beatles rather than Rubber Soul.
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, 6 October 2008 13:51 (seventeen years ago)
I fucking love Run For Your Life.
― nate woolls, Monday, 6 October 2008 14:01 (seventeen years ago)
misc: The Word over Here There & Everywhere: RUBBER SOUL
The correct duel here would be "Michell" vs. "Here There & Everywhere". Which the latter would win.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 08:37 (seventeen years ago)
(Both are probably in my Beatles Top 10 of all time though)
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 08:49 (seventeen years ago)
"Michell" the Beatles' tender tribute to the Henry VIII/Captain Beaky star of stage and screen.
― A. FIND MISSING LINK B. PUT IT TOGETHER C. BANG! (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 09:00 (seventeen years ago)
Drive My Car > TaxmanNorwegian Wood > Eleanor RigbyYou Won't See Me < I'm Only SleepingNowhere Man < Love You TooThink For Yourself > Here There & EverywhereThe Word > Yellow SubmarineMichelle < She Said She SaidWhat Goes On < Good Day SunshineGirl < And Your Bird Can SingI'm Looking Through You < For No OneIn My Life < Doctor RobertWait > I Want To Tell YouIf I Needed Someone < Got To Get You Into My LifeRun For Your Life < Tomorrow Never Knows
RUBBER SOUL: 5REVOLVER: 9
― Moka, Sunday, 23 November 2008 09:56 (seventeen years ago)
Wait = I Want To Tell You (I don't really care for either)
Even though this wasn't Geir's post or the way he voted, the fact that it even reminds me of him makes me think of him also makes me think I know way too much about this place.
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Sunday, 23 November 2008 10:14 (seventeen years ago)
Drive My Car > TaxmanNorwegian Wood > Eleanor RigbyYou Won't See Me < I'm Only SleepingNowhere Man > Love You TooThink For Yourself < Here There & EverywhereThe Word > Yellow SubmarineMichelle > She Said She SaidWhat Goes On > Good Day SunshineGirl > And Your Bird Can SingI'm Looking Through You < For No OneIn My Life > Doctor RobertWait > I Want To Tell YouIf I Needed Someone < Got To Get You Into My LifeRun For Your Life < Tomorrow Never Knows
RUBBER SOUL: 9REVOLOVER: 5
― Jake Sexchamp (Matt P), Sunday, 23 November 2008 10:14 (seventeen years ago)
Rubber Soul is a much better album, allowing Revolver only one clear winner. Personally, I go for:
Drive My Car > TaxmanNorwegian Wood < Eleanor RigbyYou Won't See Me > I'm Only SleepingNowhere Man > Love You TooThink For Yourself > Here There & EverywhereThe Word > Yellow SubmarineMichelle < She Said She SaidWhat Goes On > Good Day SunshineGirl < And Your Bird Can SingI'm Looking Through You = For No OneIn My Life > Doctor RobertWait < I Want To Tell You (as filtered through the Grateful Dead, in part)If I Needed Someone > Got To Get You Into My LifeRun For Your Life < Tomorrow Never Knows
RUBBER SOUL: 8.5REVOLVER: 5.5
― gabbneb, Sunday, 23 November 2008 13:22 (seventeen years ago)
IM HERE TO SHOW EVERYBODY THE LIGHT!!!!
"The Word" could have been the only song on this album and it would still be one of the greatest records of all time. Holy shit they drop it on this song. The beginning of all metaphysical Beatle myths is here.
― Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 19:52 (sixteen years ago)
yea i liked that song, and i don't even like the beatles
― 2 guys 1 gag (surm), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 19:53 (sixteen years ago)
Girl > And Your Bird Can Sing
^^this is extremely wrong
― kulinary gangsta (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 19:54 (sixteen years ago)
I read in a book that they're singing the word "tit" in the background of "Girl," and the tit berrypecker is a songbird, which makes the two...equal?
― how is abbott formed (Abbott), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 19:56 (sixteen years ago)
I've owned Rubber Soul for about 15 years now, and I gotta tell ya, it's kind of a waste of time...
― forgotten funk-uncle (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 01:49 (sixteen years ago)
it does herald the start of Paul McCartney becoming a badass bass player though, so it's not completely worthless...also I like Norwegian Wood...
― forgotten funk-uncle (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 01:50 (sixteen years ago)
Revolver > Rubber Soul
but lets leave this kind of stuff to the 8723408750247830580234957023745028934789057070342758734895790834705897 Beatles-devoted message-boards in existence right now.
― kelpolaris, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 02:00 (sixteen years ago)
― kulinary gangsta (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, April 6, 2010 3:54 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
these are both extremely good songs
― samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 02:03 (sixteen years ago)
also Think For Yourself < Here There & Everywhere is pretty close. I like Think because it's uglier but somehow still otherworldly beautiful.
I kinda feel like the non-folk parts of Rubber Soul are more futuristic than Revolver, what with all the 80's/90's dance beats they are cranking out.
― Adam Bruneau, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 02:14 (sixteen years ago)
The Revolver poll thread sent me down a mid-period Beatles rabbit hole this weekend and I gotta say, Ian MacDonald's misgivings notwithstanding about his sexism, I, too, love this song unconditionally.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 11:38 (twelve years ago)
Rubber Soul no contest, Paul stuff on there is way better even if it's not as "groundbreaking" as some of his stuff on Revolver
― nova, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 21:31 (twelve years ago)
You Won't See Me is one of the Beatles best songs. its Paul doing a really good Motown/Spector imitation, a stoned Marx Brothers garage band backing him up.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 21 July 2017 18:44 (eight years ago)
I don't really hear Spector in it but otherwise sure
― Οὖτις, Friday, 21 July 2017 18:48 (eight years ago)
Yeah, I don't hear Spector in it either. I like how direct the lyric of 'You Won't See Me' is... it's one of those songs that proves that McCartney could write direct, non-cryptic personal songs when he felt like it.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 21 July 2017 20:39 (eight years ago)
I'm not sure what the original source for this is, but apparently there is a super deluxe edition coming for Rubber Soul and it's tentatively scheduled for next year.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 1 June 2025 05:52 (one year ago)