― my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)
― my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)
― ratty, Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:01 (twenty years ago)
This is the one that puzzles me: With a thrill in my head an a pill on my tongue. I assume this was coming out of the Northern Soul tradition where apparently amphetamines were the drug of choice? It's too early to be ecstasy, I'm thinking...could be Sid Vicious?
― viborgu, Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:11 (twenty years ago)
― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:16 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:17 (twenty years ago)
But surely listening to Marvin all night long would more likely require a stimulant?
Regarding the original question: the implication is that he finds it hard to write the next line because he doesn't want to come up with any old line (why do I find it hard to write the next line when I want the truth to be said).
― Oak (small items), Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:23 (twenty years ago)
So trueFunny how it seemsAlways in time, but never in line for dreamsHead over heels,when toe to toeThis is the sound of my soulThis is the soundI bought a ticket to the worldBut now I’ve come back againWhy do I find it hard to write the next lineWhen I want the truth to be saidI know this much is trueWith a thrill in my head an a pill on my tongueDissolve the nerves that have just begunListening to marvin all night longThis is the sound of my soulThis is the soundAlways slipping from my handsSand’s a time of t’s ownTake your seaside arms and write the next lineOh I want the truth to be known
― ratty, Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:31 (twenty years ago)
I think the meaning of this couplet may be unpacked as follows: It's funny because it's 'True'.
― ratty, Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:33 (twenty years ago)
Yeah, but fuck does that mean?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:37 (twenty years ago)
― ratty, Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:38 (twenty years ago)
― ratty, Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:40 (twenty years ago)
More likely a seaside soul weekender, eg Caister
― Oak (small items), Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:44 (twenty years ago)
"Gold" is really the masterpiece in this regard
― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:57 (twenty years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 2 January 2006 00:05 (twenty years ago)
the long version is my life's work and will not be finished even if I live to be a thousand
― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Monday, 2 January 2006 00:10 (twenty years ago)
Funny how 'my godforesaken industrial hometown' seems, always in time [funky] but never in line for dreams [high unemployment].
Spandau Ballet is the sound of northern soul boys who got a scholarship to get out of their hometown, blew all their money on bling clothing, and could never fit in at home again, sitting at the kitchen table in their second-hand pearl-gray camelhair topcoats.
― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 2 January 2006 00:12 (twenty years ago)
xpost
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 2 January 2006 00:14 (twenty years ago)
What, Islington?
― Oak (small items), Monday, 2 January 2006 00:33 (twenty years ago)
― ratty, Monday, 2 January 2006 01:25 (twenty years ago)
― piscesboy, Monday, 2 January 2006 01:32 (twenty years ago)
xpost for sure it is "seaside arms"! I have the lyric sheet right here!
― Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Monday, 2 January 2006 01:35 (twenty years ago)
― I Am Sexless and I Am Foul (noodle vague), Monday, 2 January 2006 01:37 (twenty years ago)
-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), January 1st, 2006.this means queueing up "dreams" by fleetwood mac .lolthe strange thing is the album is called "rumours" but martin thought it was called dreams".lol
― retrokid, Monday, 2 January 2006 02:00 (twenty years ago)
― piscesboy, Monday, 2 January 2006 02:04 (twenty years ago)
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Monday, 2 January 2006 02:09 (twenty years ago)
And then he ends up with "Aaaaaah Ah Ah Aaaaah Ah Ah" because he knows that much is true at least.
― Geir Hongro, Saturday, 27 October 2007 00:48 (eighteen years ago)
de doo doo doo de da da da
― da croupier, Saturday, 27 October 2007 00:51 (eighteen years ago)
The most shimmery band ever!
He's singing about his feet: Head over heels, toe to toe, this is the sound of my sole. This describes a difficult and intricate yoga position in which you use both hands to press your feet against each of your ears. So it's hard to write the next line because his hands are wrapped around his ankles.
― dad a, Saturday, 27 October 2007 01:52 (eighteen years ago)
Because he's taking it up the arse from the record company?
― moley, Saturday, 27 October 2007 02:54 (eighteen years ago)
Keeping head over heels isn't very difficult indeed. I mostly do when not asleep.
― Geir Hongro, Saturday, 27 October 2007 17:22 (eighteen years ago)
It's virtually inpossible if you live below the equator, Geir, where heels over head is the order of the day.
― moley, Saturday, 27 October 2007 23:20 (eighteen years ago)
heard this song the other day and thought 'this is NAFF'
― the eagle laughs at you (m coleman), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 11:48 (sixteen years ago)
esp. the part where the singer kinda chokes up: i know this much is...TRUE
― the eagle laughs at you (m coleman), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 11:50 (sixteen years ago)
haven't used the term "naff" since about 1984 either
― the eagle laughs at you (m coleman), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 11:51 (sixteen years ago)
It's all about soulboys going down to Brighton.
GKemp got into a heated arg with a "Face" reporter about how doing the seaside run was some sort of "anti-establishment" action. (The Face guy thought this was bobbins)
― Mark G, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 12:28 (sixteen years ago)
8(((( to you mr coleman
― anyways when I'm chopped, dip always kicks my ass lol (stevie), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 12:33 (sixteen years ago)
OTOH i think "cut a long story short" & "chant #1" have aged pretty well, actually
― the eagle laughs at you (m coleman), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 12:51 (sixteen years ago)
Better MOR than "True":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J1APZ0y1J0
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 13:30 (sixteen years ago)
I think it must be very hard indeed to come up with a line like "slowly being eaten away" when the previous line was "these are my salad days", but it's evidently not hard enough.
But I shouldn't complain, that lyric is a joy forever
― Neil Willett, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 20:01 (sixteen years ago)
Spandau Ballet and Tears for Fears are touring Australia in a few months. At well over $200 a ticket, I should bloody well hope he can find it in him to write the next line. On ancient ricepaper, with an inkpot of HIS OWN BLOOD.
― millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:15 (sixteen years ago)
(no, I'm not bitter that I cant afford the gig. Not at all, not me...)
Speaking of bizarre Spandau lyrics, the one that always tickled me was "she used to be a diplomat/but now she's down the laundromat". I mean, really, Tony.
― millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:17 (sixteen years ago)
$200 is really a stupid amount for that show.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:18 (sixteen years ago)
i mean, two years ago i could see air supply at the gulfstream racetrack for free.
and, i mean, AIR SUPPLY. come on.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2012/may/14/how-we-made-true-spandau-ballet
I wrote the song at my parents' house, where I was still living at the time. As a working-class boy, I wouldn't think of moving out till I got married. I was infatuated with Clare Grogan [the Altered Images singer and star of Gregory's Girl]. I met her on Top of the Pops and, at one point, travelled up to Scotland to have tea with her and her mum and dad. Although my feelings were unrequited and the relationship was platonic, it was enough to trigger a song, True, which became the name of our 1983 album, too.True is about how difficult it is to be honest when you're trying to write a love song to someone. Hence: "Why do I find it hard to write the next line?" The lyrics are full of coded messages to Clare. I'm still berated for the line "Take your seaside arms" but it's straight out of Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov, which she had given me as a present – although in the book, it's "seaside limbs". The line "With a thrill in my head and a pill on my tongue" is also a bastardisation of Nabokov. I don't want to embarrass Clare. I was 22 and she was 18. True was really a song about me and my idea of love.
True is about how difficult it is to be honest when you're trying to write a love song to someone. Hence: "Why do I find it hard to write the next line?" The lyrics are full of coded messages to Clare. I'm still berated for the line "Take your seaside arms" but it's straight out of Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov, which she had given me as a present – although in the book, it's "seaside limbs". The line "With a thrill in my head and a pill on my tongue" is also a bastardisation of Nabokov. I don't want to embarrass Clare. I was 22 and she was 18. True was really a song about me and my idea of love.
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Also talked to Clare G about Gary Kemp writing True about her, as he recently wrote in The Guardian. She used to joke about it being about her to her husband, but the fact that it was indeed "true" was only confirmed to her the other week!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)
Well, wellwellwell.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)
haha that's great
― Victory Chainsaw! (DJP), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)
I don't mind the lines – I mind Tony Hadley oversinging them.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)
This is...amusing.
The bit that goes "Listening to Marvin all night long" was a reference to me and Steve Norman, the band's saxophonist. We were massive soul boys: we loved MTV, the Face magazine and all that glossy stuff, so this was us taking an anti-rock stance. The inky press loved blues and reggae because they were about suffering. They didn't like soul because it was aspirational, all about dancing, wearing great clothes and having sex. They saw it as vacuous. So namechecking Marvin Gaye was a defiant statement aligning us with the London soul boy culture stretching back to mod. And I'd loved Mott the Hoople singing about T Rex in All The Young Dudes so was pleased to reference another artist in a song.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:19 (thirteen years ago)
This reminds me of my freind in HS. We used to sneak up on each other between classes and croon this song to each other in Elmer Fudd's voice.
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:15 (thirteen years ago)