In Spandau Ballet's "True" was writer's block when he sings "Why do I find it hard to write the next line"?

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Cuz it doesn't really make any sense otherwise.

my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

it should read "was it writer's"

my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

I always assumed he'd just run out of room at the bottom of the page. We need more clues.

ratty, Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:01 (twenty years ago)

I always thought it wasn't so much that he didn't know what to say, but it was just too hard to get it out...

This is the one that puzzles me: With a thrill in my head an a pill on my tongue. I assume this was coming out of the Northern Soul tradition where apparently amphetamines were the drug of choice? It's too early to be ecstasy, I'm thinking...could be Sid Vicious?

viborgu, Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:11 (twenty years ago)

nuh-uh,'cause then he says "dissolve the nerves" etc. so it's a downer of some kind

Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:16 (twenty years ago)

not that I like Spandau or anything

Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:16 (twenty years ago)

This song is fantastic.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:17 (twenty years ago)

nuh-uh,'cause then he says "dissolve the nerves" etc. so it's a downer of some kind

But surely listening to Marvin all night long would more likely require a stimulant?

Regarding the original question: the implication is that he finds it hard to write the next line because he doesn't want to come up with any old line (why do I find it hard to write the next line when I want the truth to be said).

Oak (small items), Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:23 (twenty years ago)

True

So true
Funny how it seems
Always in time, but never in line for dreams
Head over heels,when toe to toe
This is the sound of my soul
This is the sound
I bought a ticket to the world
But now I’ve come back again
Why do I find it hard to write the next line
When I want the truth to be said
I know this much is true
With a thrill in my head an a pill on my tongue
Dissolve the nerves that have just begun
Listening to marvin all night long
This is the sound of my soul
This is the sound
Always slipping from my hands
Sand’s a time of t’s own
Take your seaside arms and write the next line
Oh I want the truth to be known

ratty, Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:31 (twenty years ago)

'Funny how it seems
Always in time, but never in line for dreams'

I think the meaning of this couplet may be unpacked as follows: It's funny because it's 'True'.

ratty, Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:33 (twenty years ago)

but never in line for dreams

Yeah, but fuck does that mean?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:37 (twenty years ago)

Not to mention 'seaside arms' - was this a holiday romance at Butlins perhaps? Or did he fall in love with a mermaid?

ratty, Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:38 (twenty years ago)

This is going to be trickier than the Paul Weller analysis.

ratty, Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:40 (twenty years ago)

'seaside arms' - was this a holiday romance at Butlins perhaps?

More likely a seaside soul weekender, eg Caister

Oak (small items), Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:44 (twenty years ago)

Spandau Ballet lyrics are all like this - they sound like they might make sense 'til you examine them, but on close reading they aren't saying anything at all

"Gold" is really the masterpiece in this regard

Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:57 (twenty years ago)

"Head over heels,when toe to toe", when paired with "seaside arms" perhaps suggests he was part of a synchronised diving duo? And their romantic relationship is threatening their professional one? "Pill on my tongue" would then be some performance enhancing drug.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 2 January 2006 00:05 (twenty years ago)

The short version of my thoughts on "True"

the long version is my life's work and will not be finished even if I live to be a thousand

Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Monday, 2 January 2006 00:10 (twenty years ago)

He's back in his neighborhood pub on Northern Soul night on Christmas break from university - the pub where the music is beautiful, but he needs to get out of his godforsaken industrial hometown.

Funny how 'my godforesaken industrial hometown' seems, always in time [funky] but never in line for dreams [high unemployment].

Spandau Ballet is the sound of northern soul boys who got a scholarship to get out of their hometown, blew all their money on bling clothing, and could never fit in at home again, sitting at the kitchen table in their second-hand pearl-gray camelhair topcoats.

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 2 January 2006 00:12 (twenty years ago)

haha I just envisioned the M0untain G0ats as a lifelong struggle to make sense of Spandau Ballet.

xpost

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 2 January 2006 00:14 (twenty years ago)

to get out of their hometown

What, Islington?

Oak (small items), Monday, 2 January 2006 00:33 (twenty years ago)

The lyrics to 'Instinction' are particularly opaque. 'Stealing cake to eat the moon'?

ratty, Monday, 2 January 2006 01:25 (twenty years ago)

seaside arms??? really? is that really what he says??

piscesboy, Monday, 2 January 2006 01:32 (twenty years ago)

it's my instinction, it's my instinction

xpost for sure it is "seaside arms"! I have the lyric sheet right here!

Mr Straight Toxic (ghostface), Monday, 2 January 2006 01:35 (twenty years ago)

Every other Spandau lyric is T.S. Eliot compared to "She used to be a diplomat, but now she's down the laundromat".

I Am Sexless and I Am Foul (noodle vague), Monday, 2 January 2006 01:37 (twenty years ago)

but never in line for dreams

Yeah, but fuck does that mean?

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), January 1st, 2006.
this means queueing up "dreams" by fleetwood mac .lol
the strange thing is the album is called "rumours" but martin thought it was called dreams".lol

retrokid, Monday, 2 January 2006 02:00 (twenty years ago)

i always thought it was 'why's it seem so hard to write the next line' again the writer's block thing. SEASIDE arms?? what in heaven's name..

piscesboy, Monday, 2 January 2006 02:04 (twenty years ago)

i always thought that was an avoiding reality thing. like why don[t i want to GO THERE issue esp. when the song is about truth and dreams and buying a ticket to the world but coming back always again to ..dreams and pills?. isn't it all about which state to live in? but i guess that could be part of writer's block. am i not supposed to answer this sincerely? lover, i want seaside arms.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Monday, 2 January 2006 02:09 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

Regarding the original question: the implication is that he finds it hard to write the next line because he doesn't want to come up with any old line (why do I find it hard to write the next line when I want the truth to be said).

And then he ends up with "Aaaaaah Ah Ah Aaaaah Ah Ah" because he knows that much is true at least.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 27 October 2007 00:48 (eighteen years ago)

de doo doo doo de da da da

da croupier, Saturday, 27 October 2007 00:51 (eighteen years ago)

The most shimmery band ever!

He's singing about his feet: Head over heels, toe to toe, this is the sound of my sole. This describes a difficult and intricate yoga position in which you use both hands to press your feet against each of your ears. So it's hard to write the next line because his hands are wrapped around his ankles.

dad a, Saturday, 27 October 2007 01:52 (eighteen years ago)

Because he's taking it up the arse from the record company?

moley, Saturday, 27 October 2007 02:54 (eighteen years ago)

Keeping head over heels isn't very difficult indeed. I mostly do when not asleep.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 27 October 2007 17:22 (eighteen years ago)

It's virtually inpossible if you live below the equator, Geir, where heels over head is the order of the day.

moley, Saturday, 27 October 2007 23:20 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

heard this song the other day and thought 'this is NAFF'

the eagle laughs at you (m coleman), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 11:48 (sixteen years ago)

esp. the part where the singer kinda chokes up: i know this much is...TRUE

the eagle laughs at you (m coleman), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 11:50 (sixteen years ago)

haven't used the term "naff" since about 1984 either

the eagle laughs at you (m coleman), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 11:51 (sixteen years ago)

It's all about soulboys going down to Brighton.

GKemp got into a heated arg with a "Face" reporter about how doing the seaside run was some sort of "anti-establishment" action. (The Face guy thought this was bobbins)

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 12:28 (sixteen years ago)

8(((( to you mr coleman

anyways when I'm chopped, dip always kicks my ass lol (stevie), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 12:33 (sixteen years ago)

OTOH i think "cut a long story short" & "chant #1" have aged pretty well, actually

the eagle laughs at you (m coleman), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 12:51 (sixteen years ago)

Better MOR than "True":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J1APZ0y1J0

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 13:30 (sixteen years ago)

I think it must be very hard indeed to come up with a line like "slowly being eaten away" when the previous line was "these are my salad days", but it's evidently not hard enough.

But I shouldn't complain, that lyric is a joy forever

Neil Willett, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 20:01 (sixteen years ago)

Spandau Ballet and Tears for Fears are touring Australia in a few months. At well over $200 a ticket, I should bloody well hope he can find it in him to write the next line. On ancient ricepaper, with an inkpot of HIS OWN BLOOD.

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:15 (sixteen years ago)

(no, I'm not bitter that I cant afford the gig. Not at all, not me...)

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:15 (sixteen years ago)

Speaking of bizarre Spandau lyrics, the one that always tickled me was "she used to be a diplomat/but now she's down the laundromat". I mean, really, Tony.

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:17 (sixteen years ago)

$200 is really a stupid amount for that show.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:18 (sixteen years ago)

i mean, two years ago i could see air supply at the gulfstream racetrack for free.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:18 (sixteen years ago)

and, i mean, AIR SUPPLY. come on.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 20 January 2010 03:18 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2012/may/14/how-we-made-true-spandau-ballet

I wrote the song at my parents' house, where I was still living at the time. As a working-class boy, I wouldn't think of moving out till I got married. I was infatuated with Clare Grogan [the Altered Images singer and star of Gregory's Girl]. I met her on Top of the Pops and, at one point, travelled up to Scotland to have tea with her and her mum and dad. Although my feelings were unrequited and the relationship was platonic, it was enough to trigger a song, True, which became the name of our 1983 album, too.

True is about how difficult it is to be honest when you're trying to write a love song to someone. Hence: "Why do I find it hard to write the next line?" The lyrics are full of coded messages to Clare. I'm still berated for the line "Take your seaside arms" but it's straight out of Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov, which she had given me as a present – although in the book, it's "seaside limbs". The line "With a thrill in my head and a pill on my tongue" is also a bastardisation of Nabokov. I don't want to embarrass Clare. I was 22 and she was 18. True was really a song about me and my idea of love.

Related posts:

Also talked to Clare G about Gary Kemp writing True about her, as he recently wrote in The Guardian. She used to joke about it being about her to her husband, but the fact that it was indeed "true" was only confirmed to her the other week!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

Well, wellwellwell.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)

haha that's great

Victory Chainsaw! (DJP), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

I don't mind the lines – I mind Tony Hadley oversinging them.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)

This is...amusing.

The bit that goes "Listening to Marvin all night long" was a reference to me and Steve Norman, the band's saxophonist. We were massive soul boys: we loved MTV, the Face magazine and all that glossy stuff, so this was us taking an anti-rock stance. The inky press loved blues and reggae because they were about suffering. They didn't like soul because it was aspirational, all about dancing, wearing great clothes and having sex. They saw it as vacuous. So namechecking Marvin Gaye was a defiant statement aligning us with the London soul boy culture stretching back to mod. And I'd loved Mott the Hoople singing about T Rex in All The Young Dudes so was pleased to reference another artist in a song.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

This reminds me of my freind in HS. We used to sneak up on each other between classes and croon this song to each other in Elmer Fudd's voice.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 17:15 (thirteen years ago)


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