Come on, you guys know that Captain Beefheart's Unconditionally Guaranteed is a really good record

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Zoot Horn Rollo didn't like it, but if you've acclimated yourself by having been purchasing dollar bin copies of old bubblegum records for a long time it hits you that this album is a wowser! Don is just as silly and enjoyable as ever on this LP and really pulling a prank by making a happy children's bubblegum record. Solid, solid, solid - song after song. Wrote these songs with his wife! "Full Moon, Hot Sun." "Lazy music's got me layin' back and layin' down." "Sugar Bowl." "Peaches." "Magic Be."

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 31 December 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

who doesn't like it?

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 31 December 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

Uh, sorry. Thread on this already. Some people defending it there.

Skot from my readings of rock literature many do not like this album!

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 31 December 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

AMG, 2 stars:

The most reviled album of Captain Beefheart's entire career, 1974's ironically titled Unconditionally Guaranteed unfortunately largely deserves its negative reputation. Recorded in the U.K. as the first album of Captain Beefheart's contract with Virgin Records, it's also the last album that features any members of the Trout Mask Replica-era band, notably guitarists Zoot Horn Rollo and Alex St. Clair, plus former Mothers of Invention percussionist Art Tripp. Rather like Van Morrison's later album, A Period of Transition, Unconditionally Guaranteed is clearly a deliberate attempt by the Captain to restrain his more peculiar tendencies in search of a wider audience. As might be expected, the wider audience didn't show up, and his longtime fans were put off by the album's more commercial facets. It's not an entirely useless album, as the tunes do have some of the blues-rock punch that's at the root of Beefheart's work, and the lyrics, mostly declarations of love for his wife, Jan Van Vliet, who receives co-writing credit with producer Andy DiMartino on all ten tracks, seem heartfelt enough. The problem is that DiMartino's production and arrangements are flaccid and dull, and Beefheart (purposely) sings as if he's half asleep throughout. Even Captain Beefheart himself disowns this record.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 31 December 2005 23:23 (twenty years ago)

Last line should be "disowned this record." It would be interesting to hear what he had to say about it now.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 31 December 2005 23:24 (twenty years ago)

well, i love unconditionally guaranteed. i think it's lovely. blue jeans and moonbeams is still the only album i've never heard or owned by him. i think.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 31 December 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)

I like "Sugar Bowl." Otherwise, I pretty much think it's a stinker. Not at all unlistenable, but when I want to hear Beefheart in this mode I put on "Clear Spot." The Magic Band plays well as always. The other one, Scott, is more interesting to me, especially "Observatory Crest." He coulda turned into kinda J.J. Cale for real nervous people, I guess.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 1 January 2006 02:18 (twenty years ago)

I don't hate this one, but when it comes time for some Beefheart, its never the one I pull out. Never. Besides, I thought Bluejeans & Moonbeams was the "most reviled." Ya learn something every day. :)

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Sunday, 1 January 2006 05:53 (twenty years ago)

when i'm in the mood for beefheart i usually end up playing 4 or 5 in a row, and it definitely has a place in the rotation.

a nervous jj cale! ya got me curious, edd. i don't know why i haven't picked it up by now. actually, i think i do know. i don't see it that much. when i'm in the mood for jj cale, i play 6 in a row. he iz like candy to me.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 1 January 2006 08:36 (twenty years ago)

I remember a long time ago, seeing a secondhand copy of "Upon the my oh my / Magic Be" and going 'oh'.

I quite liked "Magic Be" though.

Tell you what, when fopp opens, I'll get one and report back. Fopp. The place where you can buy an album without risking too much.

mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 1 January 2006 10:21 (twenty years ago)

Either the Cap'n's worst LP or his 2nd-worst - I've never given the followup enough attention to confirm or deny its inferiority, a mistake I intend to correct someday. But of course, "worst" is a relative term: Even bad Beefheart is better than etc. "Lazy Music" is an unfortunately apt Side Two title, buthe entire first side is solid, "Peaches" is too, and Zoot Horn Rollo's always worth listening to. Kinda suspicious, tho, how Andy DiMartino (who he?) managed to secure a composer's credit on every song. (Shades of Sir Lord Baltimore.)

Altogether, cherrypicking the best songs from the two '74 Mercurys woulda resulted in a "sellout" album nearly as effortlessly enjoyable as Clear Spot, altho with much worse sound quality. (Again: Who the fuck was Andy DiMartino?)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Sunday, 1 January 2006 13:25 (twenty years ago)

Conventional wisdom used to say that Strictly Personal was the worst, with Krasnow's psychedelia phase-shifting taking the blame. I find SP to be one of the Captain's best. Myonga is OTM--bad Beefheart is so much better than so many other's good.

js (honestengine), Sunday, 1 January 2006 14:04 (twenty years ago)

I have no problem with Strictly Personal. I rather enjoy the overtly psychedelic oddness of it. An underrated Beefheart outing, IMHO.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Sunday, 1 January 2006 16:53 (twenty years ago)

Latest rumour has it that the Strictly Personal phasing was actually Beefheart's idea, for which he later blamed Krasnow when it was poorly received. Which strikes me as totally plausible, considering Don's notoriously selective memory. (I have no problem with that album, either. Production-wise, the excessive phasing certainly wasn't as dumb an idea as the strict stereo separation of "Flash Gordon's Ape." Which Beefheart DID take credit for, heh heh.)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Sunday, 1 January 2006 20:48 (twenty years ago)

so where does this latest rumor about Don and "Strictly" come from? Haven't heard that, but it makes sense. Personally...I have moments when I really like "Strictly," others when it sproings and bounces but in mostly boring/wrong ways, compared to the assurance of later work. But I always love "Kandy Korn." And right, I will always feel bad about the way "Flash Gordon's Ape" came out, with all those saxes skronking away on one channel. Without 'em, it's maybe his best track ever. I assume y'all have heard the Fast 'n' Bulbous CD "Pork Chop Blue around the Rind"? If not, man--it's a great record and, as I opined in my Nashville Scene top ten list which included it, makes the case for Van Vliet as composer in the same league as Monk.

What made me say that about J.J. Cale, Scott, is that Beef covers "Same Old Blues" on "Bluejeans." Good cover, too. Of course, Van Vliet could've been Dr. John for people too stoned to be nervous, or something, or Sly Stone...for people who are just stoned...I dunno.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 2 January 2006 01:10 (twenty years ago)

Edd, I read that Krasnow/phasing thing in the liner notes to I May Be Hungry But I Sure Ain't Weird. It doesn't name any sources other than "other parties." But in his book, Bill Harkleroad offers direct anecdotal (albeit second-hand) knowledge of Don's anger upon the record's first hearing, so I guess it looks as though Krasnow was the culprit after all. I still like Strictly Personal a lot. Bookending "Ah Feel Like Ahcid" was a nice touch. Maybe "Trust Us" coulda been a few minutes shorter.

Haven't heard that Fast n' Bulbous thing yet - I've been on an "Original Bat Chain Puller" kick lately!

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 6 January 2006 10:18 (twenty years ago)

Lots of good things on "Unconditionally Guaranteed". Some not so good, admittedly. "Bluejeans and Moonbeams" might be more of a stinker but it does have "Observatory Crest" and "Further Than We've Gone" both of which are gorgeous.

CLassic or Dadaismus? (Dada), Friday, 6 January 2006 10:23 (twenty years ago)

"Latest rumour has it that the Strictly Personal phasing was actually Beefheart's idea, for which he later blamed Krasnow when it was poorly received."

Sorry but that was actually the week-before last's rumour.

John French scotched this in a recent interview, saying that when the band returned from a European tour, they were surprised to discover that the album had been pressed; and basically confirming that what Don told Oui Magazine (published in their July 1973 edition) is (for once) basically true:

"God! I even named Blue Thumb Records. Bob Krasnow, who became president of Blue Thumb after leaving Buddah, didn't. I did! All right, I'm over in England. We mixed the album Strictly Personal before we left on tour. Krasnow had produced, I produced, and Alex St. Clair helped with the production. Now, while we were gone, Bob Krasnow went in and remixed the album. We get back from Europe and my cousin, the Mascara Snake, who later played clarinet on Trout Mask Replica, walks in the door with this album. I ask 'what's this?'. I'd just gotten back and he'd had my car, a big old Jaguar that he'd take out and run around like you would a greyhound. So he hands me the album, and there's the album cover I did with the stamps and manila envelope. Everything just as I did it. So I put the album on and, my God, it's not the same album! He had put psychedelic Bromo-Seltzer all over the tapes we'd made - you know, phasing, whooooosh. The music - there are diamonds in the rough tinder there, but it sounds like some kid's got a hold of a Mona Lisa. A mean little kid. All of a sudden I find this album a shambles with psychedelic Bromo-Seltzer all over it. I didn't know what to do. That's when the group broke up. The other people, who didn't want to do so much of an art statement, said 'Forget it, we've had enough'. I just said 'Man, I agree with you'. What could I say? He's gonna make me commercial! Now, maybe he had good intentions, but I still haven't gotten any money for the album."

It is also apparently true however that Don didn't seem to raise any major objections to the production until it subsequently started being badly-received elsewhere....

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 6 January 2006 11:46 (twenty years ago)

"Tell you what, when fopp opens, I'll get one and report back."

IIRC from our previous dicussions Mark, you really need to get Doc At The Radar Station, Safe As Milk, Clear Spot, The Spotlight Kid, Shiny Beast and Ice Cream For Crow before you worry about Unconditionally Guaranteed.

Not to mention Unknown Pleasures, Closer and Raindogs of course.

The Manager of Mark Grout's local branch of Fopp (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 6 January 2006 11:54 (twenty years ago)

Well, put it this way:

I'd rather get the less good stuff out of the way. Then, I can say, "Hey I could use a good new Beefheart album" at some point in the future.

Also, I have Safe As Milk, Clear Spot, The Spotlight Kid, and Shiny Beast already (Alice loves Bat Chain Puller, the track).

Fopp did have "Uncond", but it was £7, so maybe next week.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 6 January 2006 12:02 (twenty years ago)

Wouldn't buy it for £7

CLassic or Dadaismus? (Dada), Friday, 6 January 2006 12:04 (twenty years ago)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BEEFHEART-YELLOW-BRICK-ROAD-7-ENGLAND-PYE-LBL-45-ZAPPA_W0QQitemZ4813826118QQcategoryZ306QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
What about this one, then?

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 6 January 2006 14:33 (twenty years ago)

Sorry but that was actually the week-before last's rumour.

Yep...which is why I more or less recanted in my last post there, Stew!

(Oui Magazine!? Jesus Christ.)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 6 January 2006 21:28 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
Hi dere..

I got a promo version of "Unconditionally Guaranteed"

I Like It!

I like it better than "Mirror Man" certainly.

Right, eyes open for "Bluejeans" ....

Mark G, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 11:17 (nineteen years ago)

Heh, also good ol' ebay! Last year, got "Yellow Brick Road" 45 on Pye for four pounds! Ad said "Trashed" condition, but heck it was pretty damn good condition!

Mark G, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

People should get that Virgin comp which cherry-pricks from that period.

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

"People should get that Virgin comp which cherry-pricks from that period."

If you're referring to A Carrot Is as Close as a Rabbit Gets to a Diamond - a compilation which includes four tracks from each of the two albums generally recognised as being his his weakest (and not even the best tracks from those - where are "Upon The My Oh My" and "Full Moon Hot Sun" but only three tracks each from Doc At The Radar Station and Ice Cream For Crow; and which misses both the album title tracks "Bat Chain Puller" and "Ice Cream For Crow" (also the only single included on any of these albums) and such other key tracks as "Hot Head", "Ashtray Heart", "Best Batch Yet", "Making Love To A Vampire With A Monkey On My Knee" - then my advice would be to avoid it like the plague and just go straight for either Shiny Beast or Doc At The Radar Station

Stewart Osborne, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Well, there was that 'best of the Libery years and also Virgin' of a year or so ago.

or was there "I aint hungry" or was that something else?


Aaaanyway, Beefh left to go = "bluejeans, Doc/radar, IceCream"

Mark G, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

I think I have the virgin comp. But, y'know, I have the chubby for anything Beefheart ever did.

Drooone, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

"Well, there was that 'best of the Libery years and also Virgin' of a year or so ago.

A better selection of materials from the Virgin years certainly - but the inclusion of 3 tracks from Strictly Personal alongside them just seems odd.

Stewart Osborne, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

I've said it before and I'll doubtless say it again but there's only one Beefheart comp. that's either remotely representative or any good and that's Rhino's The Dust Blows Forward (it includes includes tracks from all his albums / labels, including 4 tracks from the criminally-still-unavailable Decals; the two key ones from the Zappa / Beefheart / Mothers album Bongo Fury; and "Hard Workin' Man" which Don rceorded with Jack Nitsche for the Blue Collar soundtrack; plus the tracks from The Spotlight Kid and Clear Spot sound miles better than on that horrible twofer which is the only way you can get those albums on CD) - but (unfortunately?) that one always seems to be so expensive that you're almost certainly better off spending the money on 3 or 4 actual albums instead....

Stewart Osborne, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

is Spotlight Kid on vinyl these days?

sleeve, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:30 (nineteen years ago)


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