Digital DJs screwed for royalties in UK

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Digital DJs 'unaware of copy law'

"Many DJs are still unwittingly breaking the law by playing unlicensed digital copies of tracks months after a new permit scheme began, the BBC has found.

The annual licences, costing £200 plus VAT, were introduced by royalty collection agency PPL in September.

DJs who copy tracks onto computers or MP3 players without one are breaking copyright law, the organisation says.

But Radio 1 DJ Fergie told Newsbeat he did not know about the licences and doubted many other DJs did either.

The licences are needed by any DJ who wants to store digital copies of sound recordings to use when playing in public.

This includes legally-purchased downloads, which are normally licensed only for personal use, as well as copies of tracks from records or CDs.

PPL said many DJs wanted to play from laptops or MP3 players instead of records or CDs, despite the fact it was illegal without the permission of the rights owner.

Business affairs director Peter Leathem told Radio 1's Newsbeat: "Rather than saying stop it, don't do it, we've actually tried to embrace what people want to do and come up with a licence to be able to do that."

Licensing 'sting'

He said the £200 charge was "reasonable", adding: "You don't actually have to DJ using a laptop. You can use vinyl, you can use CD, so we're saying that if it's not worth your while spending £200 then don't do it."

DJ Ritesh, who runs club nights and DJs in Bristol, said he had not been aware of the new licences, despite the fact he sometimes played his whole set straight from his laptop, without using his records at all.

He told the BBC: "I think it will be very difficult to enforce, mainly because so many people play out in clubs every weekend. There isn't actually very much money in DJing so to ask someone to shell out £200 is going to be a bit over the top."

Another DJ, Lee Jarvis, from Essex, said: "It's a bit of a sting I think. For someone who's not a mega-superstar DJ a few hundred quid can really make a difference."

He was sceptical about how the licences could be enforced, saying: "I don't think you could stop a DJ mid-set and turn the music off because they haven't got a licence that's a bit extreme."

Breach of copyright

Yvonne Duffield, of Sedition DJs agency, said: "Generally I'm just a bit confused about it. It does seem quite a harsh amount to charge especially as young DJs cannot afford to pay a lot of money for vinyl so they rely on downloads."

Mr Leathem said the licences were intended to make life easier for DJs, who could buy a single licence instead of having to contact the individual copyright owner of each track for permission.

He said PPL would not take action to enforce the licences in the early stage of the scheme.

But once awareness had grown, it would start pursuing unlicensed DJs, who could face penalties including legal costs and breach of copyright damages.

Venues would be urged to check DJs were licensed before hiring them and those who turned a blind eye could also find themselves in trouble with the law.

The licence money goes to the 3,500 record companies represented by PPL."

From a legal point of view I can't see how this could apply to copies of tracks made from vinyl or CD as they claim, but obv. the industry wants any MP3s etc to be seen as completely different to physical media.

As a good citizen though I've told the PPA to raid Optimo this weekend. I think that they should be made an example of :0

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 14 January 2006 13:43 (twenty years ago)

fuck that shit.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Saturday, 14 January 2006 13:48 (twenty years ago)

isn't the lack of low end bad enough when one is DJing mp3s?

titty sanskrit (sanskrit), Saturday, 14 January 2006 14:29 (twenty years ago)

This is pathetic, draconian and nonsensical.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Saturday, 14 January 2006 15:25 (twenty years ago)

A big DJ in Italy was punished for this last year iirc.

Are they planning to inspect DJs with just CDs as well, given that so many will burn tracks to CD-Rs and there's no way of knowing where they came from without providing the original CDs? Utterly ridiculous.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Saturday, 14 January 2006 15:33 (twenty years ago)

Show me an artist who would oppose a DJ playing his music to a crowd of dancers/listeners.

blunt (blunt), Saturday, 14 January 2006 15:51 (twenty years ago)

(please no Lars photos ktxbye)

blunt (blunt), Saturday, 14 January 2006 15:51 (twenty years ago)

Well

blunt (blunt), Saturday, 14 January 2006 17:57 (twenty years ago)

Actually any independent record label will also do.
How low can armies of lawyers go

blunt (blunt), Saturday, 14 January 2006 18:05 (twenty years ago)

Well you could say the same about radio play, yet the royalties are collected...

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 14 January 2006 18:05 (twenty years ago)

Clubs do pay artist rights tax

blunt (blunt), Saturday, 14 January 2006 18:07 (twenty years ago)

fuck that shit.
-- CharlieNo4 (starsandheroe...), January 14th, 2006.

Wogan Lenin (dog latin), Saturday, 14 January 2006 18:19 (twenty years ago)

also - do DJs who play records and CDs need a license?

Wogan Lenin (dog latin), Saturday, 14 January 2006 18:19 (twenty years ago)

Our club pays a fee to the Irish Recorded Music Association as far as I know. I guess it's a different system here.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 14 January 2006 18:55 (twenty years ago)

but that's the club, not the dj.

Wogan Lenin (dog latin), Saturday, 14 January 2006 18:58 (twenty years ago)

I think the question to ask is : who is making (big) money by broadcasting music ? Certainly not most of the Dj's ; mre surely big networks who sell ads. Remember : without content, the tubes are empty

guillaume, Saturday, 14 January 2006 21:14 (twenty years ago)

What about DJs who play large amounts of unreleased music such as dnb or dubstep DJs in on the unreleased dubplate circuit? Is playing tracks you've received directly from artists suddenly subject to this license?

Clownhorse, Saturday, 14 January 2006 22:27 (twenty years ago)

or a DJ playing their own material for that matter....

How fucked up is it when you play out your own choons, you have to pay a licence fee which will go to major label artists...

Jack Battery-Pack (Jack Battery-Pack), Sunday, 15 January 2006 11:44 (twenty years ago)

this is completely unworkable, and i plan to ignore it.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Sunday, 15 January 2006 13:12 (twenty years ago)

The more stupid, moronic shit they pull, the better it is in a way. It's better if loads of people get pissed of with them then just a few.

It'd be nice to get a breakdown of this: "the licence money goes to the 3,500 record companies represented by PPL." I wonder how much Output or Border Community get compared to EMI or whoever. I might email them.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 15 January 2006 13:27 (twenty years ago)

would be interested to hear which record labels actually officially support this move.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Sunday, 15 January 2006 13:31 (twenty years ago)


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