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ok,anyone excited about this?i sure am.pitchfork reviewed a track from this and said the song is about nine minutes long.sounds like a return to "perfect from now on"...which is alright with me.so,what are your thoughts...and of course,is an actual copy going to leak anytime soon?

tellmeastory, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 20:47 (twenty years ago)

I'll always prefer old-model BTS circa There's Nothing Wrong With Love. I guess that will always be my cross to bear.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 20:50 (twenty years ago)

if you haven't heard any demos, go to pitchersofsilence.blogspot.com

Jesse Albota (JesseA), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:06 (twenty years ago)

i'm kinda excited for this.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:07 (twenty years ago)

Heard it. really like it. Very excited for the new album

That I Could Clamber to the Frozen Moon and Draw the Ladder (Freud Junior), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:19 (twenty years ago)

I must have played Perfect From Now On 100,000 times between 1997 and 2000. Ancient Melodies of the Future was not up to par, but Going Around Your Mind is better than anything on it, so I have hope.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:33 (twenty years ago)

They did a really good set last summer in seattle... they added Brett from Caustic Resin as a third guitarist, which really made them sound even louder and more layered than ever before.. I'm guessing/hoping he was in the studio for the album.

Dom iNut (donut), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:42 (twenty years ago)

yeah i think i saw that same lineup...most of the band was from the opening act - the delusions....then the caustic resin dood on third guitar....it was a great set actually, except i'm a lil' tired of the cortez the killah jamz now...they even did some reggae in the middle!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:03 (twenty years ago)

That 'reggae' track they've been playing live is pretty poor and pointless though. And I've only heard those low-quality demos, but the quality of the songs seems to drop off after "Going Against Your Mind." And I'm really hoping it has better production than I think it will...no Phil Ek this time, which I think is a bad thing.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 19 January 2006 00:03 (twenty years ago)

I saw Doug Martsch circa his solo album and he did a couple reggae songs (a show I was not expecting much from that was really great), I remember a particularly sweet Alton Ellis song. I think he comes to that stuff honestly.

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 19 January 2006 15:47 (twenty years ago)

I am very excited about this new album. I think Doug is pretty solid. Some records are better than others, but there isn't one I dislike. There are a number of them (early and later periods both) that I have almost worn out with repeat listens. And he couldn't be a nicer guy.

Daron Gardner (Daron Gardner), Thursday, 19 January 2006 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Martsch is very good at figuring out which song to put first on the album.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 19 January 2006 16:29 (twenty years ago)

After Ancient, maybe a switch from Phil Ek might be a good thing, just as a jolt... I love Phil Ek's work... and many bands have produced a much longer consecutive streak of great albums with the same recording engineer, but BTS has never had a consistent line-up either, so not having a consistent recording engineer might be a breath of fresh air.. it's a risk either way, but I welcome it after Ancient (which I didn't like at all.. it's the only album of theirs I don't own.)

Dom iNut (donut), Thursday, 19 January 2006 17:43 (twenty years ago)

Not at all Donut? What about Strange? The Weather? Fly Aroung My Pretty Little Miss? I agree it's their weakest record, but it's got some pretty serious highlights.

I couldn't be more stoked for the new stuff. I like Phil Ek too, the production on BTS records has never really stood out to me, with maybe the exception of AMOFT, and I think the production was one of the things I didn't like about that record.

Scott CE (Scott CE), Thursday, 19 January 2006 17:53 (twenty years ago)

I really didn't think I would ever really like "Ancient" that much. But this record has really grown on me over the past couple of years. Over the last year, I have probably listened to it more than any of the other records. "Keep it Like a Secret" is still my favourite, though.

That I Could Clamber to the Frozen Moon and Draw the Ladder (Freud Junior), Thursday, 19 January 2006 18:51 (twenty years ago)

"Strange" is one of their best songs, and Sam Coomes's playing adds a lot to it. Honestly, I'd have complete faith in their new album if Sam Coomes played Rocksichord on many/most of the tracks.

What I'm worried about most, now that I think about it more, is not that Ek isn't on board, but that the sound will be more 'raw' and live-sounding. What I love about BTS is all the overdubs of slide-y guitar parts. Also, I'm not fond of how the bass playing sounds on the demo-ish versions of the songs.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 19 January 2006 19:11 (twenty years ago)

And I wish I wasn't so doubtful of their new album...just praying it's not as bare-bones as the versions of heard.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 19 January 2006 19:12 (twenty years ago)

Yeah I love the overdubs too. But I will still buy this regardless.

That I Could Clamber to the Frozen Moon and Draw the Ladder (Freud Junior), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:46 (twenty years ago)

My guess is it won't be as overdubbed as Perfect From Now On, but not much is. Either way, it'll be great to have Doug Martsch back. I got tired of citing Ancient Melodies in every "Bad Album by Good Artist" thread.

What does everybody think of Going Against Your Mind? I love it...their best long song since the Perfect From Now On heyday (I always hated Broken Chairs)

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:52 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
Well, I finally managed to hear a version of this without "WHO IS MIKE JOOOOOOONES?!?!?!" going off every 2 minutes.

I think it's wonderful, miles better than Ancient Melodies. I'm with most of the people upthread: weakest album, only one I don't own, etc, etc.

After the soulcrushing letdown that was the new Flaming Lips album, this is almost uplifting to listen to. It's the first album in about a year that I've listened to 3 times in a row, and I enjoyed each listen more than the last.

Anyone else heard the "WHO IS MIKE JOOOOONES?!?!"-less version?

Zach S, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 13:26 (twenty years ago)

I have. I'm underwhelmed. It seems aimless and the melodies don't grab hold like on his older albums where the songs where similarly long, ie. Perfect From Now On. I'll give it a few more chances but so far I'm not feeling it.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 13:34 (twenty years ago)

Of course, I really like the new flaming lips, so there you go.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 13:34 (twenty years ago)

I like parts of the new flaming lips, for sure. I like the 2nd half much more than the first, although I would honestly rather listen to field recordings of the crying patterns of babies from different cultures than to ever hear "yeah yeah yeah song" or "free radicals" ever again.

Whereas with this new BTS, the worst songs on it still sound like above average songs to me, and the better ones are good enough to actually stay in my head for a while.

Zach S, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 13:41 (twenty years ago)

'goin against yr mind' is ripping my scalp off and then applying a soothing balm to the exposed underneathyness...
that means, i'm diggin it.

eedd, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 15:56 (twenty years ago)

"'goin against yr mind' is ripping my scalp off and then applying a soothing balm to the exposed underneathyness...
that means, i'm diggin it. "

It's the only really good track on the album, though.the others are
mediocre.

real deal bill, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:18 (twenty years ago)

ok,here's the inevitable.i'm gonna buy it,you just quit it.where on earth can i find this?tell me it's reached a certain soulseeky area.tell me i can find it if i look hard enough.ha!

jfdfdf, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:44 (twenty years ago)

Sometimes I really do believe im the only person who liked the last album.
Whens the new one out?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:53 (twenty years ago)

wait there was a "who is mike jones version"?? goofy!

i ended up like ancient melodies a lot after awhile...it sounded so tired and spent, in a sort of "good way" if that's possible..it sounded like a last album to me, i'm curious about this one though.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:55 (twenty years ago)

I really liked the last one too, save for a couple of dull tracks.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:01 (twenty years ago)

someone,anyone...tell me,can this be had at the moment?i need a little built to spill in my life.ima searchin'...but no luck.i buy i buy.

heymanitsme, Thursday, 23 March 2006 00:21 (twenty years ago)

its up at the pirate bay if anyone still hasnt found it. i'm really liking this album, it sounds fucking great. it kinda combines the way perfect from now on had many different structure changes within a song, and the melodies are up there with keep it like a secret. they really into it with furious guitar jam sections, keeping all but one song over 4 minutes. highlights are of course goin against your mind and conventional widsom, my next favorite is mess with time, traces builds and builds, liar, wherever you go, gone, ... shit the only song that is underwhelming i think is just a habit, but even that has some great psych guitars in the second half. last song has some interesting lyrics: "you wait for something that'll make the waiting worth the wait." superb return to form for BtS.

thauragar, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 07:39 (twenty years ago)

Conventional Wisdom is one of Dug's best songs evah.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 14:24 (twenty years ago)

can't.
stop.
playing.
this!

sucks that the tour dates had to be rescheduled, but, hey. gives me something to look forward to in Sept. i guess...

eedd, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 15:16 (twenty years ago)

I love this album so much!

Favourite line for now: "When I was a boy I used to look up at the stars/ One night I thought I saw an alien/ But it turned out it was only God."

Nice.

Freud Junior (Freud Junior), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:16 (twenty years ago)

four months pass...
Conventional Wisdom is the best BTS song ever and YIR is their best album, who woulda thunk it?

Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Thursday, 17 August 2006 01:14 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think it. I'd reverse about a decade for their best album.

For some reason Conventional Wisdom bores the hell out of me. Maybe it's the guitar lines, that remind me of Trey Anastasio circa 2000 and on, but I always thought as the centerpiece of "YIR" it made the album soft in the middle. I love all the songs around it, though.

cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Thursday, 17 August 2006 06:24 (nineteen years ago)

eight months pass...
everyone seems to be singing the praises of this thing. i haven't played it in months and i think it's still got plenty of merit i'm yet to uncover. not as obviously blissful as the tour de force that was 'perfect from now on', and probably doesn't match up to 'keep it like a secret' or 'there's nothing wrong with love', but it's certainly solid. i'm just sorry it fell out of my rotation. must have been distracted by something else at the time. will listen tonight if i have time. but it is late...

Charlie Howard, Friday, 11 May 2007 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

Going Against Your Mind and Conventional Wisdom are up there with their finest songs... not so sure about the rest.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 11 May 2007 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

I'm still waiting on the LP release of this, which seems to be ever more delayed.

Sparkle Motion, Saturday, 12 May 2007 02:04 (nineteen years ago)

I think You in Reverse holds up pretty well, actually. I mean, nothing will ever match Keep it Like a Secret, possibly my favorite album of all time. But "Goin' Aginst Your Mind," "Traces," and "Conventional Wisdom" are masterpieces, and I love the weird shift, solo and outro and the end of "Mess With Time."

FWIW, it took me three years to learn to love Perfect From Now On ... perhaps one of the strangest, most exotic hard-rock records released by a major in the past 15 years. For a while, I didn't see what the big deal was.

Jiminy Krokus, Saturday, 12 May 2007 03:45 (nineteen years ago)

Also, saying the melodies on YIR are on a par with the ones one Secret is an insane statement.

Jiminy Krokus, Saturday, 12 May 2007 03:46 (nineteen years ago)

I was having a bit of a BtS retrospective before I saw this thread, so thought I'd give You in Reverse another go. Seems I can't have been that impressed first time around as I'd deleted it and had to d/l it again. And I managed to get the "who is Mike Joooooones" version!

And yeah, a couple of good or even great tracks there but I doubt I can be bothered to devote any more time to the rest of it. So then I gave Perfect From Now On another spin. Fuck. So so so good. Untrustable... blows any other 8 minute indie-rock epic clean out of the water. The multiple sections and false endings in the outro are just something else.

ledge, Saturday, 12 May 2007 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

I was singing the praises of You in Reverse upthread, but the sparkle has kind of faded, and I haven't listened to it since probably last fall. I think the turning point was seeing them live, which was like watching death in slow motion.

Z S, Saturday, 12 May 2007 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

LP came out! Sounds so gooooood...

Davey D, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 06:09 (eighteen years ago)

nine years pass...

Going against your mind is such a screamer live.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 2 October 2016 04:15 (nine years ago)

Orig on Rolling Reissues a couple months ago, out now and sounding mighty fine:

90s heavy psych band Caustic Resin announce the deluxe reissue of their celebrated 1998 album The Medicine is All Gone today with a song stream at Brooklyn Vegan. The double LP reissue is the album's first time ever on vinyl (anyone remember CDs?), remastered from the original analog tapes. The album opener "Cable" is here:
https://soundcloud.com/brett-netson/cable/s-aUK3L

Caustic Resin vocalist/guitarist Brett Netson is also a longtime member of indie rock heroes Built To Spill and currently plays in drone legends Earth as well as fronting his own Brett Netson and Snakes. Earth joins Boris for an extensive U.S. tour starting this Friday, July 22nd. Please see dates below.

Recorded in 1998 with engineer Phil Ek (Fleet Foxes, Modest Mouse, Mudhoney, Built To Spill, The Shins, Band Of Horses), the album was a highpoint both sonically and in terms of songwriting in the 15 year career of the Boise rock trio. Initially released on Alias Records, after many years of the album's high repute passing, largely by word of mouth, from devoted fans and record store clerks to, well, anyone who would listen, the calls and campaigns for this landmark album to be released on vinyl have finally been heeded.

Even after over a decade and a half The Medicine Is All Gone still sounds remarkable. Its authenticity and organic nature grant it a timeless quality, its honesty and raw emotion stirring the soul in a way that only the most magical of music can.

The album is an intoxicating ride through the heaviest of psychedelic trips, its avalanche of layered guitars cascading into fathomless waters of calm respite before the white knuckle ride rises again and again. Its vocals and lyrics sound as though they are the last gasp scream uttered by a man who stands at the precipice of his own mortality. And indeed he might have been.

In 1998 Caustic Resin had been around for 10 years and their longstanding line up of Brett Netson (vocals and guitar) Tom Romich (bass) and James Dillion (drums) had all but burned itself out with its dedication to rock n' roll and the worst aspects of the associated lifestyle. Their drugged out sound was one dictated by experience not secondhand inspiration. By the time they recorded The Medicine Is All Gone they were like a space rock Icarus, blinkered in their efforts to force every last effort into a final flight after being fatally scorched by the sun. These sometimes terrifying contemporary blues songs tell tales of estranged families, destructive drug and sex relationships, paranoia, religious reflections, death and spiritual redemption.

The Medicine Is All Gone stands as a unique entry in the canon of stoner rock and makes much of its fellow alumni seem tame in comparison. It is an astonishing achievement when judged solely on its musicality, but, as an end product, it is nothing short of a miracle when considering the mental illness, addiction, homelessness and criminality issues its makers were facing around the time of its construction. The explosive, violent chemistry of the trio that produced this classic music would sadly never issue a full album's worth of material again.

As a collection of songs the album flows together incredibly well, ebbing and flowing like a lysergic dream, although there are definite highlights. These include scene setter "Cable," "Hate In Your...," "Salamander," " Dripping" and the incongruous but heartfelt (and at times scathing) "Man From Michigan." Towards the album's close we are introduced to the unforgettable "Mysteries of..." which was inspired by a hallucination during a near fatal overdose of heroin and a later dream involving the preacher from the movie/book Wise Blood by Flannery O'Connor, the track morphing into full throttle rendition of Argent's "Hold Your Head Up."

When I received The Medicine Is All Gone it looked worryingly like some low rent Scandinavian black metal album, Caustic Resin's addled members staring scarily out from plain mug shots on the cover. Their lack of pretence visually and deep obligation to an 80's underground non aesthetic belied the care and effort taken to craft the music contained within. The artwork of this reissue is only slightly different, taken from an old promo poster from the time of the album's initial release. It has been weathered by time in a way this music never could. This reissue also contains the original mastering notes from Phil Ek (engineer) to Roger Seibel (mastering engineer).

Although the band did not survive in the format contained here, the individual members thankfully did and even reconvened for a show at 2014 Treefort Festival in their native Boise, Idaho. Brett Netson has been a full time member of Boise alternative rock band Built To Spill for the last decade, fronts his own relatively new band Brett Netson and Snakes, has played with the likes of Mark Lanegan and Earth and is a committed family man. He has also recently founded his own label, Scavenger Cult, this reissue of The Medicine Is All Gone being its second release.

The Medicine is All Gone will be available on 2xLP and download on September 9th via Scavenger Cult Records .

BORIS / EARTH TOUR 2016:
07/22 San Diego, CA @ The Casbah
07/23 Phoenix, AZ @ Crescent Ballroom
07/25 Dallas, TX @ Trees
07/26 Austin, TX @ The Mohawk
07/28 Ybor City, FL @ The Orpheum
07/29 Orlando, FL @ The Social
07/30 Atlanta, GA @ The Masquerade
07/31 Asheville, NC @ The Orange Peel
08/01 Nashville, TN @ Third Man Records
08/03 Carrboro, NC @ Cat's Cradle
08/04 Washington, DC @ 930 Club
08/05 Brooklyn, NY @ Warsaw
08/06 Philadelphia, PA @ Union Transfer
08/07 New Haven, CT @ College Street Music Hall
08/09 Boston, MA @ Paradise Rock Club
08/10 Montreal, QC @ Bar Le Ritz P.D.B. (no Earth)
08/11 Toronto, ON @ Lee's Palace (no Earth)
08/12 Cleveland, OH @ Grog Shop
08/13 Grand Rapids, MI @ Pyramid Scheme
08/14 Chicago, IL @ Metro
08/16 Madison, WI @ Majestic Theater
08/17 Minneapolis, MN @ Fineline Music Cafe
08/18 Lawrence, KS @ Granada Theatre
08/19 Denver, CO @ Bluebird Theater
08/20 Salt Lake City, UT @ Urban Lounge
08/22 Seattle, WA @ Neumo's
08/23 Portland, OR @ Wonder Ballroom
08/25 San Francisco, CA @ The Fillmore
08/26 Los Angeles, CA @ The Regent Theater
08/27 Las Vegas, NV @ Hard Rock Hotel - Psycho Las Vegas

― dow, Wednesday, August 3, 2016

dow, Sunday, 2 October 2016 20:31 (nine years ago)

I wouldn't call it "psychedelic" exactly, but certainly one of the better dirt bike questing, backwoods zigzagging, and yeah skull-searching alt rock albums of the 90s.

dow, Sunday, 2 October 2016 20:37 (nine years ago)


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