jane's addiction: name your reasons they are so bad and hated

One of the worse listening experiences of my life and I'm so happy so one agrees that JA isn't that good.

"Stop" is good too.

ritual still fucking pwns.

i thought they were 'deeper' when i was like fourteen or whatever, but i still have a positive feeling about them. i like listening to their records. i dunno. but yeah, the heavy prog epics. as noted on the noise board thread, the bass into to "three days" is one of my fave things EVAH.

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Oh, and Dave Navarro sure turned into a whore, eh?

Look, I was in high school, nobody else liked college rock. Ok, one dude liked Joy Division also so we were friends, but he was a fucking asshole. When Nothing's Shocking came out, I swear MTV played it on both Headbanger's Ball and 120 Minutes. Unheard of. Amazing. It was like the metal band that was ok for new wavers to like, and it was totally atmospheric and psychedelic. It didn't sound much anything else you'd learn about on MTV around that time. Then I bought the Three Days cassingle when it came out, totally epic. I swear that on some of those tracks Janes Addiction hit the same oddly exotic psychedelic nerve that had previously been dominated by The End by the Doors, and would later be most piqued by something like Space Prophet Dogon by the Sun City Girls.

I saw them play at Madison Square Garden, I think I was in 10th grade so like, 1990? 91 maybe? Happy Mondays opened up for them and seemed pretty useless at the time. But Janes had all their colored christmas lights and day of the dead imagery and such. Really, they were a lot better then everything that came after them, they were more then the sum of their parts (which were pretty lacking to begin with). But it brought everyone together, the metal-heads, the alternative rockers, the goths. Both of their record covers were banned at some point. Sure it was schtick, but it seemed exciting. Maybe you had to be there.

Got placed into the newly minted "alternative" section of record stores so girls would buy it.

I BELIEVE YOU ARE DESCRIBING THE DOORS, ACTUALLY.

I'll agree with that fully. Meanwhile, indirectly responsible for Lollapalooza? I thought Perry got the whole shebang rolling.

Jane's wannabes are sad figures, and this includes Farrell/Navarro since the first reunion on.

oh my...

They were never really arty or subversive, though = If they were arty, it was in a bad, inneffectuual amateur boho-lifestyle-cum-hippie way. Not that that's bad, everyone needs a hobby. But in the era of Reaganomics that was probably seen as pretty unusual, before preppy-slacker-hippies became the new dropping out. Nowadays it's just regarded as passe.

That was how I read it perhaps :/

If the stories are true, they kept that for the gay porn phone lines they worked on.

-- fandango (...), January 17th, 2006.

how does jane's addiction make animal collective look "tidy"? i can't even begin to hear this when comparing them. though you're right about the strokes. i guess.

Strokes -- whoever did "Eep Opp Urk (Uh Uh)" on The Jetsons

also, i'd be quick to concede that Bret Michaels is probably a bigger homophobe than Perry Farrell, given some evidence, but quick, tell me who got called 'fags' more - Jane's Addiction or Poison?

You can like it, shrug it off, love it, or hate it.. but Jane's were hardly a surprise to anyone when they became big.. at least to L.A. folks. It had been brewing for quite a while.

(the whole attempt at a "gay" angle is more distracting from the qualities of the band, in retrospect... what's more interesting is how they became the token L.A. rock band for L.A. anglophiles to like, instead of the Chili Peppers, Fishbone, Lock Down, or whoever else was around then..)

KROQ just had a way of making everything they played on the radio sound like they came from either of two planets: a) Hollywood, or b) England. Somehow, Jane's were able to get fans of both sides of the listener fanbase to like them. The latter is more interesting to explore, IMHO.

That was great.

Atmosphere aside they were absolutely ferocious live, and they knew it. I won't forget how shit hot they were at those Lollapalooza shows, and how every night they were dropping jaws on the opening acts crowded to the side of the stage — Siouxsie and Rollins and the Buttholes, etc. — all craning their necks for a better look, to be closer to whatever it was those guys managed to tap into for a very brief period.

http://www.rscotthorn.com/Test%20Rock/images/Perry%20Ferrell.jpg

http://www.karenmasonblair.com/images/gallery/Perry%20Ferral.jpg

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no, and I'm not much for them because of it. to the extent I do like them, it's despite the fact that they're not kidding. Zep is the only one that really does it for me, though, and the stuff I like best is when they tone down the bullshit (Rock 'n Roll) or knock it the fuck over (Levee)

we aren't really mentioning the fact that janes was a goddamned buzz clip and was on almost every morning right before i left for middle school. and as i was only just then getting to know about contemporary music that wasn't complete rubish, they were mind blowing. everything about them was. i see it differently now, mind, but at the time the seemed to present exactly what i wanted from a rock band. and i could find their records in the mall.

how they got there is, of course (sorry), a good question. that album on XXX is far enough away from GNR to let me think record co.'s thought they could market to the same audience. maybe it was the KROQ...i never understood how LA works.

btw, Ian..i think i still have a couple old bootlegs on tape under my couch...one form lollapalooza in Atlanta...perry pretends to talk to moses...and they do the "don't call me nigger, whitey" cover with ice-t...classic (sonds kinda crappy, but...)...ill try and get it to you

xpost: hah...see the teenage me thought that was an amazing thing to say (re: the sandle)

I get my "magic" from, well, beauty. Not an "air of danger and possibility" (which was certainly better-purveyed by, you know, W. Axl Rose etc.). I'm sure there was a strong communal element to Janes shows, and I might well have gotten off on that if I had been there. But I prefer my community to be composed more of people who are seeking things they weren't offering.

This is the reaction that I had, too. I think if the Pixies had made it to my town, it woulda been them. But listening to Jane's Addiction now is akin to looking at photos of my old hair-dos.

How many Charisma points do you have?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane%27s_Addiction

Fuck the haters.

Pashmina OTM.

frosting, beaters...oh, i best go outside

For me this is the most OTM thing on this thread. I'd like to add that I also feel sorry for people who can't seem to like a band unless the frontman is idol worship material. Who cares if he was a cracked-out asshole? I'll never understand people who let that figure into the equation.

the cracked out downfall only matters if yr looking for an idol rather than a soundtrack. most people, esp when they're young, like their bands to be idols. so figuring that in is only as stupid as the worship itself.