What is the Point of This?

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VITERBO, Italy - An Italian judge heard arguments Friday on whether a small-town parish priest should stand trial for asserting that Jesus Christ existed.
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The priest's atheist accuser, Luigi Cascioli, says the Roman Catholic Church has been deceiving people for 2,000 years with a fable that Christ existed, and that the Rev. Enrico Righi violated two Italian laws by reasserting the claim.

Lawyers for Righi and Cascioli, old schoolmates, made their arguments in a brief, closed-door hearing before Judge Gaetano Mautone in Viterbo, north of Rome. They said they expected the judge to decide quickly.

Cascioli filed a criminal complaint in 2002 after Righi wrote in a parish bulletin that Jesus did indeed exist, and that he was born of a couple named Mary and Joseph in Bethlehem and lived in Nazareth.

Cascioli claims that Righi's assertion constituted two crimes under Italian law: so-called "abuse of popular belief," in which someone fraudulently deceives people; and "impersonation," in which someone gains by attributing a false name to a person.

"The point is not to establish whether Jesus existed or not, but if there is a question of possible fraud," Cascioli's attorney, Mauro Fonzo, told reporters before the hearing.

Cascioli says the church has been gaining financially by "impersonating" as Christ someone by the name of John of Gamala, the son of Judas from Gamala.

He has said he has little hope of the case succeeding in overwhelmingly Roman Catholic Italy, but that he is merely going through the necessary legal steps to reach the European Court of Human Rights, where he intends to accuse the church of what he calls "religious racism."

Righi, 76, has stressed substantial historical evidence — both Christian and non-Christian — of Jesus' existence.

"Don Righi is innocent because he said and wrote what he has the duty to say and write," Righi's attorney, Severo Bruno, told reporters.

He said he told Mautone during the hearing that Righi was not asserting a historical fact when he wrote of Jesus' existence, but rather "an expression of theological principles."

"When Don Righi spoke about Christ's humanity ... he was affirming that he needs to be considered as a man. What his name is, where he comes from or who his parents are is secondary," he said.

Fonza said he countered that there have long been questions of Christ's existence and that the matter warranted discussion in the court.

"When somebody states a wrong fact, abusing the ignorance of people, and gains from that, that is one of the gravest crimes," Cascioli told reporters.

Righi's brother, Luigi Righi, attended the hearing and said his brother was "serene but bitter."

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 27 January 2006 15:49 (twenty years ago)

oops wrong board

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 27 January 2006 15:51 (twenty years ago)

I thought this was going to be about that song:

"OOOOOOOOoooooh GOT YOU WHERE I WANT YOU!"

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 27 January 2006 15:52 (twenty years ago)

hahahaha

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 27 January 2006 15:53 (twenty years ago)

well i guess we can make this a thread about things we don't get the point of

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 27 January 2006 15:54 (twenty years ago)

mild cheese

et tu, Friday, 27 January 2006 16:02 (twenty years ago)

papier-mache

et tu, Friday, 27 January 2006 16:03 (twenty years ago)

mornington crescent

I win!

zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:05 (twenty years ago)

the arctic cockmunkies

I lose

xpost

Zora (Zora), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:06 (twenty years ago)

I don't get the point of The Strokes. I mean they're a perfectly decent band, they have some songs I like, but no one seems to really love them. There's nothing inspiring about them. They're so blase and they always look like they're not really enjoying being in a band very much. They seem to be about nothing except being priveleged and jaded.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:10 (twenty years ago)

Urm, privileged.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:13 (twenty years ago)

dude, 'privileged and jaded' IS western culture. take a look at yourself for instance. the strokes speak to every man.

NOT EVAN, Friday, 27 January 2006 16:20 (twenty years ago)

Right, but that's why I want rock bands to help me momentarily transcend that reality.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:22 (twenty years ago)

I don't get the point of Los Lonely Boys. They're King Shit back where I come from (Austin), but as far as I can tell they're just aping Stevie Ray Vaughan really poorly, who I find incredibly obnoxious in the first place, except they also have a six-stringed bass, which instantly makes them 1234098109547130873415x more obnoxious.

owen moorhead (i heart daniel miller), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:23 (twenty years ago)

I want the Shins to change my life (xpost to self)

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:25 (twenty years ago)

abbadavid, i feel ya bro.


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NOT EVAN, Friday, 27 January 2006 16:26 (twenty years ago)

Dick cheese.

Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:33 (twenty years ago)

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latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:48 (twenty years ago)

Well I'll be damned. Dick cheese started singing.

Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:22 (twenty years ago)

What's the point of those old (fake) "live" songs that always useta appear in the '60s and thereabouts? Take a perfectly decent song like, say, Joe Tex's "Skinny Legs & All" then overdub useless imaginary crowd noises on top. Did someone think that made it more exciting or something? (Like a sitcom laugh track, but even more pointless.)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:59 (twenty years ago)


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