Why on earth are most of Killdozer's cd's now out of print???

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The very same.

Order page for the reissue of The Last Waltz album (on CD, at least -- separate page has the vinyl run)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 03:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Conquistador!
http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3FXSR03S138AY3R79NYF7YJNLF

I haven't heard the AC/DC cover (or the original, I don't think) or "Disco Inferno", but I'd like to find those.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 03:57 (eighteen years ago) link

It's like Christmas! :-) Hmm, do you have the Hair medley around?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 04:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I forgot how hilarious the liner notes were for Uncompromising...

---

"Final Market"

This song tells the inspiring story of a youth, exploited by his employer (1), a ruthless newspaper distributor. Finally, the Peoples' Revolution arrives (2), and the lad justifiably kills his boss.

(1) Weil, Simone. Oppression and Liberty. Amherst: University of Massachusetts, 1973.

(2) Lunn, Arnold Henry Moore. The Science of World Revolution. London: Sheed and Ward, 1938.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 04:10 (eighteen years ago) link

So is the Touch & Go stuff really out of print or not? I should get more Killdozer, I only have Snakeboy/Intellectuals are the Shoeshine Boys..

dar1a g (daria g), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 06:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Looks like they are indeed out of print. Touch and Go's page on them is pretty basic while Amazon shows most of them being 'unavailable' or ridiculously priced.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 06:20 (eighteen years ago) link

......which is basically in a nutshell, what I've mentioned from the start.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 06:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Saw them in Philly at Abe's Steaks after their first album. "Man O' Meat" was the high water mark. Good pig call: "Ah-huh-huh-hah-huh-haw" which did ZZ Top proud. The other points which made impressions, Gerald's sober but striking stage presence and a continuous endorsement of "Wis-kon-sin's" Huber Beer. Much better live band than the Philly fillers which shared the bill with them.

George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 31 January 2006 07:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I had the great priviledge of booking Killdozer in 1994 and playing washboard with them on a Black Oak Arkansas' HOT N Nasty.

I was at their last chicago gig in 1996(97?) at the empty bottle. Mike told me "Everyone comes up to us on this tour and asks why we're quitting. and we tell them if all the shows were like this, we would keep playing. But the only way to do that is to tell them it's our last show!"

At last report, he's lawyering in NYC. I would pay to see him before a jury.
"Your honor, my asshole could make a better case than the Prosecution!"

Uncle Tom (Uncle Tom), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 08:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Damn, that's amazing. I'll keep that mind should the need arise. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

This from 2003:
I'm a tax lawyer in Los Angeles, and yes it is very fulfilling and rewarding. Knowing that, you can't possibly really want to hear my stories. I can tell you that my three-page personal essay about my fulfilling and rewarding career in Killdozer got me into NYU Law School, that and a nice letter of recommendation from Big Black's rocker turned lawyer Santiago Durango! Now about living in Jersey City and NYC I could tell you some stories, but you didn't ask.

Oh, here we go...

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I love it.

http://www.sheppardmullin.com/images/biopics/biopic781.jpg

Publications

Co-Author, The Tax Issues (and Substantiation Nightmare) Created by Providing Employees Cellular Telephones, The NAPPA Report, Vol. 16, No. 3 (August 2002).

Administrators Face Yet Another EDI Challenge: Use of Social Security Numbers by Health Care Plans Under Fire, The Self Insurer (November 2000).

Thing is, I can hear him growling these out as songtitles.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

...the plaintiff was then poked in the eye by the defendant. And I said to myself, "Holy Fuck! That's gotta huuuuurt."

Dave will do (dave225.3), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic, btw - the CD that combines "12 Point Buck" and "Little Baby Bunting" is essential.

Oh yeah, and I don't trust anyone who thinks otherwise.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

!!!!

The most amazing sort of critic was one who praised us adoringly early on, but when Touch & Go left Detroit, where this critic lived, we became his fave example of shit music. I think we took the brunt of his anger over what he perceived as betrayal by T&G for pulling out of Wheel City. He's a music scribe for the Village Voice now, but that's not to say he grew up.

Three guesses, guys.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Guffaw this arc:

"I was a food-service employee at the University of Wisconsin, but all I ever had to do was encourage people to wash dishes. And then I'd to watch TV in my boss's office. I became a big fan of 21 Jump Street. I felt that there was no reason all my co-workers couldn't keep their houses filled with coffee and ice cream from the stockroom. Dan got fired from a job like that for eating bacon."

http://www.geocities.com/renaldo_larue/killdozer/interviews/warp1994.htm

"His experience includes helping design, establish, and administer executive compensation arrangements, equity-based incentive plans, incentive bonus plans, and deferred compensation plans, as well as individual employment and severance agreements."

http://www.smrh.com/attorneys/bios/bio.cfm?attorneyid=781

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

i wonder what happened to the two brothers.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.tgrec.com/images/bands/full/50-1.jpg

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 20:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks to this thread, I have reconnected with Mike Gerald. He has instructed me to relate the following information regarding the brothers Hobson and the rest of the Killdozer family tree:

Dan Hobson continues to live in Madison, WI, where he is a nurse, happily married, and raising two (at last count) beautiful children.
Bill Hobson lives in rural Southern California where he is happily married and raising an untold number of beautiful children. He works in the movie biz as a grip.

As a bonus:
Paul Zagoras lives on a farm outside of Madison, WI, with his beautiful wife that he imported from Japan. Nobody knows what Paul does for a living.

Erik Tunison lives in Amsterdam with a lady (the last I heard), where he manages a hipster night club and gets high all the time.

Jeff Ditzenburger lives in Milwaukee with his wife. What more needs to be said? Children may or may not be involved.

Uncle Tom (Uncle Tom), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link

ah, that's right, i forgot the one was a nurse.

awesome.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 20:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Tom, that's pure entertainment.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Interesting. So then this may or may not be "our" Bill Hobson's IMDB entry.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 20:41 (eighteen years ago) link

The UK HMV site above definitely does have Killdozer in stock - I've just checked.

Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.sheppardmullin.com/images/biopics/biopic781.jpg

I can't believe this is the guy I last saw when standing next to him in the urinals of Leicester Princess Charlotte, dressed in rhinestone-studded faux-cowboy get-up. (That's Gerald not me, btw).

Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh my God!!! That voice once actually came from HIM!??!? I wonder how Santiago Durango looks now!

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link

He looks like he works at the bank, foreclosing on delinquent loans. But he and Santiango Durango always did.

I've been looking for Killdozer shirts on ebay for years. Mostly I give up and buy something that looks like what they're wearing in the above photo (which has been hanging over my desk for ten years).

Killdozer - For Ladies Only 7" picture disc box set anyone?

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 22:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, I'd like to see someone working at the bank with the type of shirts on in the band photo above!

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Or even better, a rhinestone-studded faux-cowboy get-up! :-)

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link

He looks like he works at the bank, foreclosing on delinquent loans.

i've been called lucifer
i've been called satan
but my name is richard
and you, you can call me dick

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link

my friend mike has a killdozer shirt.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I actually do recall seeing a Killdozer shirt on ebay at around the time I got the cd I mentioned before. But I doubt that helps much, sorry.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Or how about the Appliances-SFB?

Viva Madison punk!

http://citypages.com/letters/detail.asp?TID=1068

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 23:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Someone in england is printing a really dopy shirt, but I'm waiting for Bruce Vig to clean out his closet.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

That's definately the same bill hobson. It brings a tear to my eye to think that the same man who played guitar on "King Of Sex" got paid big bucks to watch Naomi Watts and Laura Elena Harring, the hottest woman on earth, have lesbian sex.

Also, mike wants everyone here to know that the Last Waltz (the mans ruin record) is back in print and there is a Killdozer tribute record in the works. Go here for more info: http://www.crustaceanrecords.com/bands/index.php?BID=35&UID=

Uncle Tom (Uncle Tom), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 03:59 (eighteen years ago) link

my wife has a killdozer shirt, full rack tour

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 13:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm waiting for Bruce Vig to clean out his closet.

you mean Butch?

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 February 2006 00:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Down here we call anyone we like Bruce.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 2 February 2006 07:17 (eighteen years ago) link

sounds like "southern hospitality".

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Thursday, 2 February 2006 07:44 (eighteen years ago) link

ian =

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 February 2006 15:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Back in my Ugly American days, Greg Chapman and I went to see Killdozer at CBGBs ('89? '90?). After the show, Greg accidentally spilled Killdozer's last three comp beers backstage. He said the room got very chilly after that.

The last line of my show review (a slam, natch) hinted the beer spillage was intentional. I heard later that Mike Gerald thought the review was really funny until he got to the beer part - then he got pissed off.

Killdozer's shtick was a little too musically schematic for me to appreciate - but Gerald is a hell of a writer. I remember reading some of his childhood recollections in a fanzine in the late 80s, great stuff. Some of it became the basis for Killdozer lyrics, I think - something about a dad who accidentally shoots himself in the stomach with a shotgun?

Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 2 February 2006 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link

We need to sit down Santiago, Lyle and Mr. G for a roundtable on musical lawyers.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 February 2006 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Or form a band. All they need is a drummer. Maybe Santiago ended up with Roland in the divorce?

Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 2 February 2006 16:02 (eighteen years ago) link

The shotgun song is "The Rub."

I used to know a man named Burt
When I was but a lad
He was an old acquaintance
Of my mom and my dad

I don't think that I met him
More than just once
But I still recall him well
I'm not goddamn dunce

And you would not believe
What it was that he had done
He blew his own fucking guts out
With his own fucking gun

Yeah, mom and folks
They were shocked as you can imagine
When they heard about old Burt
And I said to myself
I said "Ouch, that's gotta hurt!"

It happened in the driveway
Right next to Burt's Cadillac
The shot entered through his belly
And it went out through his back

Make no mistakes
No if's and's or but's
All over the brand new asphalt
Were Burt's fucking guts

Burt's bitch stood screaming
As Burt ate the dirt
And I said to myself
I said "Holy fuck, that's gotta hurt!"

OOOOOOOUUUUUUUCCCCCCCHHHHHHH!

But you know what's funny
About Burt's loss of life
Is that he was getting gun out
So that he could kill him wife

But there he lay bleeding
His head next to a hub
And all I can say to myself
Is "Therein lies the rub!"

I like coffee, it likes me
I'd like to have some Maxwell House coffee
What'd you call this cup of shit's going to be
Why I'd rather drink from the dick of a goat
I tell you motherfucker that's all she wrote
I like coffee, it likes me
A cuppa cuppa cuppa cuppa coffee
And Maxwell House is the best coffee
I like coffee, it likes me

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Thursday, 2 February 2006 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link

the line near the end, to be TOTALLY insufferable about it, is actually "but I don't call this cup of shit caw-fee" - he's quoting his own, song, "Hamburger Martyr"

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 2 February 2006 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah, yeah, that's the one, thanks.

I wish I still had that fanzine, it had a bunch of midwest indie rockers writing for it, like Gerald and one of the guys from Urge Overkill. Gerald's piece was more wistful in tone than those lyrics, like the Prairie Home Companion crossed with Gummo. Ah well, lost to the sands of time, or in the stacks of the library at Bowling Green U...

Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Incidentally, the guys who run Ear Wax Records in Madison are re-releasing the Juvenile Truth album as a 7". That's some good Madison hardcore.

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link

it wasn't his dad who shot himself. It was an old acquaint-ance, ya goddamned dunce. His dad got blown up in an explosion in a grain elevator in Decatur. But he's still a sexual beast - with a face like chewed bubble gum.

Fuck - they had great lyrics ...

Dave will do (dave225.3), Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

re-releasing the Juvenile Truth album as a 7"

This begs a question or two.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't say "his dad," I said "a dad." Learn to read, fucktard.

Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Was it Lyle Presslar who bacame a lawyer, or was it Tom Lyle? Something tells me it was Tom Lyle.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link


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