Pazz & Jop '05

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are we....ready?

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 13:03 (twenty years ago)

go on...

― stevo (stevo), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 13:18 (twenty years ago)

i would but it ain't up just yet

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 13:21 (twenty years ago)

I will get NO work done today.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 14:06 (twenty years ago)

I was teased for saying that yesterday, Soto, but I think you and I are alike on this one. I've barely digested the Oscar noms.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 14:36 (twenty years ago)

Go Amy Adams!

― Josh Timmermann (Josh Timmermann), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 14:37 (twenty years ago)

do y'all have money riding on this or something?

― james van der beek (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 14:38 (twenty years ago)

Kanye's totally covering the spread.

― Josh Timmermann (Josh Timmermann), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 14:41 (twenty years ago)

i was actually chatting about this the other night with my boss and this is the first year since i've been paying attention that i honestly can't figure the top 5 with any certainty.

― james van der beek (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 14:44 (twenty years ago)

I was teased for saying that yesterday, Soto

Reading Pazz & Jop vs reading/posting on ILM: a major difference

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 14:49 (twenty years ago)

Didn't you crack the system last year, jaymc?

― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 14:50 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I remember that.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 14:51 (twenty years ago)

LIKE XMAS

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 14:52 (twenty years ago)

"i resent the assumption that i am excited about pazznjopmas"

― james van der beek (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 14:56 (twenty years ago)

Once again: I call
M.I.A. over Kanye
by 25 points

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:04 (twenty years ago)

and if I am wrong
I won't give even one shit
nope, not even one

what I really like
is reading other's ballots
and cross-checking links

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:05 (twenty years ago)

my guess for top 3:

MIA
Kanye West
Sufjan Stevens

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:25 (twenty years ago)

HOW CONTROVERSIAL, KORNRULEZ6969!!!!

― sean gramophone (Sean M), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:27 (twenty years ago)

people, plz. calm down. it hasn't even gone up yet.

― james van der beek (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:27 (twenty years ago)

my guess for top 3:
MIA
Kanye West
Sufjan Stevens

you could probably add Beck to that and have the top four

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:27 (twenty years ago)

bloodshed before lunchtime.

― james van der beek (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:27 (twenty years ago)

god, Beck? down with people

― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:28 (twenty years ago)

Why stop with people?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:34 (twenty years ago)

why start at all?

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:36 (twenty years ago)

what?

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:37 (twenty years ago)

HI DERE

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:38 (twenty years ago)

MY NAME IS LARRY

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:39 (twenty years ago)

KOZZZEN LARRY!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:40 (twenty years ago)

http://www.emptygatezen.com/images/zero.jpg

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:40 (twenty years ago)

(That would have been better three posts ago.)

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Well, then restart the exchange so it'll flow the right way.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:43 (twenty years ago)

MY NAME IS LARRY

I HAVE A MOMMMMM
HER NAME IS MOMMMMMMM

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:45 (twenty years ago)

THE NEXT PERSON TO POST ON THIS THREAD TO SAY ANYTHING OTHER THAN "OH, YEAH, PNJ IS UP NOW" IS GETTING THEIR POSTS FUCKED WITH.

― james van der beek (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:46 (twenty years ago)

I WARNED U

― shut up (noodle vague), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:56 (twenty years ago)

This feels like waiting at the airport for an afternoon flight – and no drinks!

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:57 (twenty years ago)

I've got this mental image of a thick purple vein throbbing dangerously in yr forehead, Jess.

― The Man in the Iron-On Mask (noodle vague), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:01 (twenty years ago)

No, no, this is like the last day of school before summer break and you get out at 2 pm and it's noon and everytime you look at the clock it's STILL EFFIN NOON

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:04 (twenty years ago)

actually, isn't it not up until tomorrow?

― james van der beek (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:13 (twenty years ago)

van der beek otm

― blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:14 (twenty years ago)

i coulda sworn that one of the last mass emails said it'd be up today, but my memory sucks. can anyone confirm or deny?

jess, why do you change your ilm name so much?

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:16 (twenty years ago)

Because he's like Madonna.

― Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:17 (twenty years ago)

i am a man of many moods

― james van der beek (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:17 (twenty years ago)

The Voice usually comes out online on Tuesday afternoon.

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:18 (twenty years ago)

madonna's changed her stage name 2,000 times?

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:22 (twenty years ago)

yes, her latest psuedonym is "christian fennesz"

― james van der beek (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:23 (twenty years ago)

ha ha ha

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:25 (twenty years ago)

Scott, I really can't believe Guero at #4. Ugh.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:34 (twenty years ago)

When it actually drops, can we start a new thread, so I won't have to scroll past all this horseshit?

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:37 (twenty years ago)

I can't say I'm certain who will win. My prediction is Kelly C. one and Amerie two and M.I.A. one and Kanye two, but those could reverse themselves and I can even imagine Kelly finishing as low as four (behind Three 6 Mafia and Madonna). I predict that 2 to 4 of my singles and 2 to 3 of my albums will finish in the top 40, which is way more than usual. (Kelly, Ciara, Daddy Yankee, Foxy; M.I.A., Franz, Robyn.)

Rollin w. the zeitgeist

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:39 (twenty years ago)

Whiney, as always, we can start multiple threads ("Once again, Myanmar was passed over in Pazz & Jop") ("Tokenism a go-go: people who voted for no indie rock 'cept for Franz Ferdinand")

Proud to contribute to the horseshit

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:42 (twenty years ago)

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seriously, they were rocking that style in blaine when sufjan was still a choirboy.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 February 2006 22:38 (twenty years ago)

I like when Rob Tannenbaum declared he was ok with not figuring out what MIA was saying under that THICK, THICK, accent because he was 'happy to understand what it feels like to be an outsider.'

― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 2 February 2006 22:42 (twenty years ago)

i think dylan wasn't being entirely serious when he said that, he knows who brian wilson is. plus he had one of the best ballots in the whole poll.

sure, that chuck eddy edits out winky emoticons.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 February 2006 22:43 (twenty years ago)

I like when Rob Tannenbaum declared he was ok with not figuring out what MIA was saying under that THICK, THICK, accent because he was 'happy to understand what it feels like to be an outsider.'

hahaha yeah that was hilarious too. is that the same one that claims "arular" as a "great british pop album." ASSIMILATE OR DIE, dude.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 February 2006 22:44 (twenty years ago)

haha we should flood simon reynolds inbox with emails of that comment

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 February 2006 22:46 (twenty years ago)

Someone should ask the kids in Lost Boys Of Sudan if they understand what it feels like to be a rock critic listening to MIA.

― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 2 February 2006 22:47 (twenty years ago)

I actually assumed Simon planted that comment himself under a fake name to prove a point.

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 2 February 2006 22:48 (twenty years ago)

Rob Tannenbaum is that guy on VH1 who says that some starlet recently became single and then holds up a piece of cardboard with his number on it and murmurs "call me." He is not Simon in disguise.

Full disclosure: he also gave me some assignments for blender a couple years ago. Simon wouldn't do that.

― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 2 February 2006 22:52 (twenty years ago)

He would if he was trying to build up credibility for his alias.

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 2 February 2006 22:53 (twenty years ago)

I don't have cable, though.

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 2 February 2006 22:54 (twenty years ago)

no simon, no credibility.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 February 2006 22:54 (twenty years ago)

"Dear Rob Tannenbaum: Are you Simon Reynolds' rockist golem? Check one: _ Yes _ No"

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 2 February 2006 22:56 (twenty years ago)

unless Simon is on some Keyzer Soze shit...

― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:01 (twenty years ago)

I dunno, he looks kinda like he's made of mud and animated via Kabballah.

(Do I need to start using emoticons here 'toine?)

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:05 (twenty years ago)

dude, I just appreciated the excuse to post that link.

― Zwan (miccio), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:09 (twenty years ago)

almost as dumb as joshua "jane dark" clover's and jessica hopper's comments: dylan hicks claiming that surfin' stevens writes/plays better records than van dyke parks, even the one "with that beach boy." yeah, he means smile.

yes, because Smile is sacrosanct and untouchable, god forbid anyone not worship it

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:16 (twenty years ago)

Fair enough.

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:24 (twenty years ago)

(xpost)

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:24 (twenty years ago)

yes, because Smile is sacrosanct and untouchable, god forbid anyone not worship it

no, it's not because of that. it's because "song cycle" is untouchable, dude.

where'd smile rank last year anyway?

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:27 (twenty years ago)

#2.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:29 (twenty years ago)

Smile > Illinois > Song Cycle

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:30 (twenty years ago)

no, it's not because of that. it's because "song cycle" is untouchable, dude.

well, of course. (you forgot to say "gotcha!" at the end, there, hstencil.)

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:33 (twenty years ago)

a frames should have finished much higher. there. i'm done bitching.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:33 (twenty years ago)

i ain't no brian wilson hanger-on smile worshipper (tho like any reasonable person i like some stuff he did - "i'm havin' lunch with cameron diaz," not so much), and it's not like i think surfin' is even the worst shit in the world (he ain't, but he ain't all that either), but, like, ya know.

Smile > Illinois > Song Cycle = math is hard! (haha just kiddin')

holy shit "the attic" just came on.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:36 (twenty years ago)

Matos, man, I feel that you and I have bonded so much since the Smile incident! So much! And yet, I must say, that Smile is, in fact, after all, a teenage symphony to God!

Just sayin'!

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 2 February 2006 23:50 (twenty years ago)

And I like Song Cycle, too!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 3 February 2006 00:12 (twenty years ago)

The B. Coming > Smile > Illinois > Song Cycle

― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 3 February 2006 00:15 (twenty years ago)

winky

― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 3 February 2006 00:16 (twenty years ago)

xpost ta jaymc - yeah but you're still wrong, dude.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 3 February 2006 00:16 (twenty years ago)

Gimme Fiction > The B. Coming (and I haven't even heard the B. Coming, because I hate rap.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 3 February 2006 00:18 (twenty years ago)

winky

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 3 February 2006 00:18 (twenty years ago)

no emoticon here, bro.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 3 February 2006 00:19 (twenty years ago)

jaymc - OffTM

― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 3 February 2006 00:22 (twenty years ago)

Drake, you're on too many message boards with me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 3 February 2006 00:23 (twenty years ago)

One thing that I miss on the new version of SMiLE: Mike Love singing, "Over and over, the crow cries uncover the cornfield" etc. Such a crucial moment.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 3 February 2006 00:27 (twenty years ago)

tim otm!!!

― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 3 February 2006 01:14 (twenty years ago)

"quimson and clover" omg!!!

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 3 February 2006 06:19 (twenty years ago)

Rick, you're right about Yngwie et al., of course; my stupid. (I mean, I even own a Great Kat CD.) I should have added "or when they do point to the classicality incessantly, no one outside metal even notices."

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 3 February 2006 18:20 (twenty years ago)

I'd just like to say that occasionally lists like this can serve a purpose. To wit, because I saw that Jody Rosen had made the surprising choice of Brazilian Girls as his number one album, an album I read exactly nothing about this year in any music publication, and because he is a critic whose writing I have admired, I sought out a few samples from the album, ended up buying it, and am enjoying it immensely. So thanks, Jody Rosen!

― o. nate (onate), Friday, 3 February 2006 21:46 (twenty years ago)

jaymc, you're in too many cities with me. I recommend you move. Chicago ain't big enough for the both etc

― deej.. (deej..), Friday, 3 February 2006 21:48 (twenty years ago)

Actually there was a passably informative review of the album in the Voice that I missed:

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0511,wood1,62093,22.html

This does a pretty good job of describing why the music is so much fun to listen to, but it goes haywire at the end when Woods gets all het up about white people daring to play world fusion music without being explicitly political - or something.

― o. nate (onate), Friday, 3 February 2006 21:59 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

Just thinking about x-gau's comments...

I just checked Metacritic, and there is no listing for Our New Orleans. Make it your business to get it up there. Even in these low-promo times, Melissa Cusick at Nonesuch will probably hook you up.

Duder, it's for charity! Everyone should BUY the fucking record, not try to glom one from Nonesuch!

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 20:10 (twenty years ago)

i'm stunned by the utter lack of discussion P&J's spawned this year -- i think we're still recovering from the burnout of the 2004 aftermath.

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 17:48 (twenty years ago)

that is thee author steve erickson with run the road at #1 right?

― hold tight the private caller (mwah), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:06 (twenty years ago)

not thee author, a diff't s. erickson

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 23 February 2006 00:41 (twenty years ago)

the film critic presumably yeah?

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 23 February 2006 02:33 (twenty years ago)

the film critic is the author. the rock critic is not the author.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 23 February 2006 02:36 (twenty years ago)

i think you may be mistaken!

the author is the occasional political journalist i believe. scott erickson is the former twins pitcher. leif erickson 'discovered' north america, briefly wrote for the east village other.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 23 February 2006 02:44 (twenty years ago)

I am mistaken but not totally. The novelist is the film critic for Los Angeles magazine and I was thinking the guy w/the website you posted just did music.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 23 February 2006 02:53 (twenty years ago)

tsk! i suppose this means i cannot say arc d'explicit as planned.

― hold tight the private caller (mwah), Thursday, 23 February 2006 03:33 (twenty years ago)

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