Rod Stewart: Classic Or Dud

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"I ain't forgettin' that you were once mine / Wrote that lyric without even tryin'"....classic, dammit.

Tom, Thursday, 29 March 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Seems like a nice, affable, funny gent, but personally...his music has never been my cup of tea.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 29 March 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

His early 70's ('Maggie May' era) material still sounds very fresh. Obviously his later stuff was grotesque. I'm a bit surprised that he hasn't attempted to re-explore his more folky past.

David, Thursday, 29 March 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Rod Stewart: Sheryl Crow or Not?

Ummm...well, I have to say Rod never really does anything for me unless I'm drunk. Which isn't necessarily bad but it doesn't make him a classic either.

And if that lyric makes Rod a classic, then Robbie Williams is a classic too, Tom.

Ally, Thursday, 29 March 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

That's a great lyric, Tom.

Until he turned to easy-listening, Classic, and you can throw his Jeff Beck Group and Faces stuff in there as well, and don't forget his decadent L.A. sleazebag period - I don't care who he stole the melody from, "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy" got so big because it was so ridiculously hummable, likewise "You're In My Heart", "Tonight's The Night" (one of the sexiest songs ever) and "The Killing Of Georgie". Even "Baby Jane", dammit ! Still can't stand "Hot Legs", though.

Patrick, Thursday, 29 March 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Neil young's "Tonights the night" is sexier than Stewart's. Just alone for that hideous punk rock mullet he sports, he deserves a dud.

cash lone, Thursday, 29 March 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i watched the rod behind the music and i am convinced he has a blonde garden in his backyard.

and i could not escape tom waits even in a rod stewart special, scary.

keith, Thursday, 29 March 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The voice is amazing. The ballads are really dodgy. Having Ron Wood around was rather cool. "Young Turks" is cheese but excellent cheese ("Patti gave birth to a 10 pound baby bo-oooy" is a wonderful piece of lyrics, very naive, everytime it startles me and I wonder whether he really sang such an inane thing). "Maggie May" indeed will always be fantastic. He's been irrelevant for decades, though. Overall quite dud!

Simon, Friday, 30 March 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Even if you sorta hate him there's always gonna be some song of his that'll knock you out - maybe it's 'cause of his image, most people think of him as sorta ridiculous ("think of (him) & try not to laugh"), so you don't really expect anything too heavy from him - but then he'll hit you with something really simple & sincere & it's just killer.Having said that, of course an easy 98% of his oeuvre is totally worthless poop... (BTW one to seek out if you don't know - "In A Broken Dream",a one-off guest spot with the obscure Australian group Python Lee Jackson, circa 1970 - boy is that a great song.)

Duane Zarakov, Friday, 30 March 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic. I've always liked his voice and I love the "If you want my body and you think I'm sexy..." song and its riff. The "Behind the Music" made him out to be a really nice guy. He really seemed like a guy who did it genuinely for the love of music and that's why he still does it, even though he might have buckled for a while under "industry" pressure. So yeah, classique.

Tim Baier, Friday, 30 March 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Whatever happened to mandolins? More people should use mandolins.

mark s, Friday, 30 March 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The early 70s stuff; classic. Everything after 1975 or so; dud with very few exceptions.

I was 2 minutes away from performing in public accompanied by a mandolin last month, Mark. Don't even ask me to recount what happened next ...

Robin Carmody, Sunday, 1 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...
Mandolins are good, a great resource. We still use them sometimes.

What I don't understand is why this thread isn't in the 'Classics or Duds' section.

re Rod: like most people, I think he deserves respect for the greatness of his early work - Every Picture above all - but he has often been awful frustrating since.

the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I watched 'National Lottery: Stars' last night which had Rod Stewart performing a duet with 'Helicopter Girl'(to be his next single?). God, what a farce.

David, Sunday, 6 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

You watch a lot of trash for someone who doesn't actually own a TV, David.

Robin Carmody, Sunday, 6 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I *still* don't understand why this is in 'Blue Lines'. I don't understand why 'Blue Lines' is called 'Blue Lines', either.

the pinefox, Sunday, 10 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

It used to be about Blue Lines, Tom's not-about-music webthing. Now I suppose it would be for things related to Groke. Yes yes, I know, you're sure you don't have any idea what these things are.

Go here.

Josh, Sunday, 10 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I like the idea of Pinefox, patiently digging through endless long-dead dusty threads, in order to comment on every single one: "I'm sorry, I've no idea what you're all talking about"

It's kind of a one-man re-enactment of John Searle's Chinese Room thought-experiment...

mark s, Sunday, 10 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

To actually say something related to the thread topic, may I say how much I love the totally unrelated-to-the-song first 30 seconds of "Maggie May" and "You Wear It Well"?

Robin Carmody, Sunday, 10 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

RC: I love them too - we are absolutely in agreement on this.

My question was not really unrelated to the thread: I was wondering, once again, why a thread called 'Classic or Dud' was not in the 'Classic or Dud' section.

the pinefox, Sunday, 10 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Filing error, of course, and I took notice of it the first time you mentioned it. You can always just email me if things like this trouble you greatly. I'll attend to it eventually.

Josh, Sunday, 10 June 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
Tempted to say DUD, but really Mr. Stewart's so-called best (the Faces stuff, "Maggie May," whatever) doesn't resonate at all with me, though I acknowledge the talent. And his bad stuff is the very dictionary definition of putrid. I'd chalk this up to the famous British/American cultural divide, 'cept that my Dad loves Mr. Punk Mullet disaster.

ALso, I consider the one-time pairing between Mr. Stewart and Jeff Beck duo to be one of the greatest wastes of talent in rock history, a combo that shoulda worked and produced greatness yet didn't (comparable to the debacles of Blind Faith, John Lennon and Frank Zappa, the Ramones and Phil Spector, and Elvis Costello and Burt Bacharach).

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Tuesday, 30 October 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

What I said on Ethan's contrarian thread. The man who brought Loaded culture to music and influenced Tesla, the Quireboys and Bryan Adams. Not a glimmer of intelligence, taste, or any artistic point whatever.

dave q, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic for Faces and early solo albums. Recently saw an old appearance on Top of the Pops, with first playing of "Maggie May" (i think) which he had written the lyrics for only hours early. enjoyed seeing how ragged and off-the-cuff the performance was.

My wife hates him so much that when she wanted to hear "Handbags & Gladrags" that she downloaded the Chris Farlowe version. (We're both slightly nauseated with the new Stereophonics cover, just because.)

Hate Rod especially for his lousy cover of "Downtown Train"

badger, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Classic, he's a bleeding classic, listen to Never A Dull Moment and it wouldn't matter if he never did anything else or a load of Sailings for evermore, Mandolins and Bottlenecks, Doghouse bass and attempts at being the Stones, but very good attempts. He outdoes Dylan on Mama You Been on my mind and Angel is a classic alone, look at pics of him with the Faces he was every cheeky kid on the corner of the early seventies with a girl in the club and a grin on his face and a fag in his gob.

My my my sweet Angel, he could outsing them all, he was better than Paul Rogers but he is still highly regarded for his boring stuff after his classic Free period.

I've gone off the point. 1.Mandolins 2. John Peel and a football on TOTP 3. His Women 4. He IS funny, but he knows it.

Lastly, all you suckers are arguing over him while he's bareback with another blonde not surfing the net for one.

Trevor sincere Dull

Trevor Alosius Dull esq, Wednesday, 21 November 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...
Rod is great.

"Gasoline Alley" and "Every Picture Tells a Story" and "Maggie May" are three of the very greatest pop vocal performances.

Reed Moore (diamond), Sunday, 19 September 2004 07:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Classic until he left Mercury for Warners. Actually, I even like "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy", but wouldn't admit it to myself until Phil Dellio and Scott Woods (in their hilarious "I Wanna Be Sedated: Pop Music In The 70s") linked it to "Hot Stuff" and "Rasputin" with their "Euro-fiddler on the roof hooks so prevalent at the time."

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Sunday, 19 September 2004 08:02 (fifteen years ago) link

the lyrics to tonight's the night sound like something from a bygone era...

Bob Six (bobbysix), Sunday, 19 September 2004 08:28 (fifteen years ago) link

First half of the '70s, very classic indeed, solo and with the Faces. Most of the rest, dud. Reason To Believe is one of my favourite records.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 19 September 2004 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I like almost every single I ever heard. Since I knew his VH1 stuff before I heard the classic stuff I'm not very offended by it. Album quality decreased drastically but I enjoy stuff like "Lost In You" and "Young Turks."

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 September 2004 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link

was tom purposely misquoting the lyric from 'you wear it well' way, way upthread? i like it the way it actually is: "i ain't forgettin' that you were once mine/but i blew it without even tryin'".

the mekons version is grrrrrrrreat.

lauren (laurenp), Sunday, 19 September 2004 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link

TS: pre-mtv sozzled Rod videos ("Hot Legs," "Tonight's The Night," "You're In My Heart") vs. dance-happy, electrocuted-cockateil VH1 fodder.

I'm more impressed by his energetic later videos (he humps a chair in "Crazy About Her") but I miss how he used to look like he wasn't sure which camera he's supposed to look at ("there's only one, Rod!" "whuh?"). If they collected them all onto a DVD I'd buy it in a second.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 September 2004 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link

The video for "You're In My Heart" gives creedence to the stomach-pump legend by revealing the song is about a football team.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 September 2004 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...

i've been listening to every picture tells a story nonstop for the last week. it's the sort of album that was critically beloved once upon a time (greil marcus put it at like #2 on his top 10 albums ever list in 1976) but has pretty much slipped off everyone's radar. my original impression, from 5 or 6 years back, was that it had 2 or 3 good songs and some less interesting stuff.

now i just keep getting more and more impressed with it. the title song is fantastic, with all those daft throwaway lines that sound like he's making them up on the spot ("oh my dear i better get outta here!") and that astonishingly fluid rhythm guitar. "i'm losing you" is about a thousand times better than the late-period lennon song that's all but eclipsed it, and "reason to believe" is a magnificent ballad. the album is riddled with small moments, like the cover of "amazing grace," that seem so unforced and elegant.

and "maggie may," despite the overplay, remains something special. the tender instrumental intro, the way the mandolin bursts up toward the end, rod's just-this-side-of-anguished vocals - perfect.

if rod had only made this album and nothing else, i might well consider him the perfect rock star. as is, i'd probably take picture over 90 percent of the rest of the "classic rock" canon.

J.D., Thursday, 23 August 2007 08:48 (twelve years ago) link

i think what i like about RS's voice and persona is how warm and unpretentious he sounds. he's completely lacking in the kind of arrogance that drips off most frontmen. i don't think any other rocker of the 70s could have made "maggie may" sound so convincingly hurt without just collapsing into self-pity - jagger would've just gone into bitchy "heart of stone" mode, lennon would've made the song all about himself. paul westerberg must've studied this album like crazy.

J.D., Thursday, 23 August 2007 08:53 (twelve years ago) link

i think what i like about RS's voice and persona is how warm and unpretentious he sounds. he's completely lacking in the kind of arrogance that drips off most frontmen

Which is why his "sell out" period is so much better than the Old ILM'ers upthread thought.

"Mandolin Wind" is my favorite underrated track.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 23 August 2007 11:10 (twelve years ago) link

nine months pass...

I'm getting really fucking sick and tired of the BBcode going wrong here. I'm not that bad at computer programming but this is fucking crap okay? Accept substandard links or be damned. I've only tried 7 billion times to post this:

It is all about Rod Stewart and my three fave songs of his...Maggie May can suck my dick, frankly, what supermarket, tame, boring crap that song is.

1)Da Ya Think I'm Sexy? Check the funky bass

2)Passion

Kim Carnes - "Draw Of The Cards" from the same era should be played right after this - these were the seeds of goth...or the unconscious influenced things from goth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4dWVE1F9go

3)Young Turks Jesus I was insane over this song when I was...13???

Bimble, Sunday, 15 June 2008 09:55 (eleven years ago) link

Best thing he ever did: The Motown Song

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 15 June 2008 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

nine months pass...

This, for "Tonight's The Night", is a goldmine. E.g.:

"This song always gets me "in the mood" no matter where I am when I hear it !
- Dorie, Mission Viejo, CA"

My guess is that Dorie is an interesting date.

Euler, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

For Young Turks alone he is v v classic. I love that song.

ENBB, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

Classic up to a point.I really like his version of Handbags And Gladrags.

Pinto Basin, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Rod Stewart is incredible...at least 15 absolute fucking classics.

Local Garda, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 11:50 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

I just saw that Rhino is releasing a Rod Stewart Sessions box set of outtakes etc. from 1971-1998. The track listing looks intriguing, but I don't know much of his work from the late 70s through the 90s except the big singles (which I typically like and in some cases, e.g. "Young Turks", absolutely adore). Any recommendations on which 80s or 90s albums to start with? There are lots of them, and Spotify has a bunch of recently remastered ones with lots of extra tracks, making it even more bewildering. I may just dive in chronologically but I'd be happy to hear advice on how else to traverse these.

deep olives (Euler), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:21 (ten years ago) link

Tonight I'm Yours, "Young Turks"' home, is rather good.

Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 12:43 (ten years ago) link

Ok, I'll start there. After reading so many bad things over the years about every Stewart album after the first four, I've never ventured further. My loss, or at least that's what I'd like to determine for myself.

deep olives (Euler), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 12:50 (ten years ago) link

The continuing lie told about Rod Stewart is that he "sold out," but even on those first four albums you can hear how fine the line is between a shambles and greatness. The guy always liked to party; he'll write a song or play with anyone. That approach guarantees erratic albums.

Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 12:59 (ten years ago) link

That's a good point. I hear the thin line you're talking about more when I listen to the Faces; I love those songs but they're falling apart. On his solo records Stewart seems to have picked less ramshackle performances, and strong cover material. In the 1992 Rolling Stone Record Guide, I remember the reviewer lamenting how Stewart had gone from having such sympathy for the characters he sang about, and thus having sympathy for his audience, to patronizing them both. This artistic criticism is then linked with the usual "he's a cynical sell out looking to cash out" line. But the artistic critique was the one that stuck with me.

So far Tonight I'm Yours sounds great, esp. the title song which has the same new-wave-jumpiness of "Young Turks".

deep olives (Euler), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 13:10 (ten years ago) link

yeah the "sold out" meme needs some challenging. more a case of bandwagon-hopping. he's still doing it now, with those execrable "great american songbook vol. 7" albums.

amateurist, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 19:41 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

pretty excited for the first two discs of this box set.

i'm beasting off the riesling (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 4 September 2009 21:43 (ten years ago) link

Whatever happened to mandolins? More people should use mandolins.

Most OTM comment on ILM ever.

Sundar, Friday, 4 September 2009 21:54 (ten years ago) link

rod's ex-wife lived across the street from my elementary school. true story.
haven't listened to this yet, but in terms of early rod ... does it get any earlier than this?
http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=745
thought for a second i'd finally get a chance to hear him sing "natural woman" but i guess it's just instrumental.

tylerw, Friday, 8 April 2011 02:25 (nine years ago) link

xp Ha! I started a poll last weekend because of the Piers Morgan interview...and went completely the opposite direction: Rod Stewart in the 1980s poll: Singles (that reached the Top 40)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 April 2011 02:27 (nine years ago) link

ten months pass...

D'ya Think I'm Sexy steals a Bobby Womack string riff. That said, The Killing of Sister George is pretty nice.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Sunday, 26 February 2012 01:32 (eight years ago) link

For me, classic from the first Faces record up until the 1973 compilation 'Sing It Again Rod', after that I wouldn't touch any of his stuff with a bargepole.

Turrican, Sunday, 26 February 2012 06:09 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

My rather muted thoughts on Rod's last non-compilation UK number one album: http://nobilliards.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/rod-stewart-night-on-town.html

You're right about the rote concepualization of "Georgie" (i.e. another gay victim) but his singing is empathetic and searching. The song may be about a victim but Stewart's vocal doesn't treat Georgie as such.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2012 23:56 (eight years ago) link

I would agree with "searching": the question is whether he actually finds anything. But really; "There ensued a fearful fight" - what is this, Alfred Austin?

I bought the 4 cd "Storyteller" set this week (seven quid from HMV) and worked my way through it in a day. Dear me, it all goes wrong half way through disc three (which is whereabouts you are on "TPL") and there's hardly anything worth talking about on disc four, but the first two discs have some incredible moments. I know Rod has said he finds songwriting hard but the evidence shows that when he applies himself (and has someone else to work with who inspires him) he can write heartfelt touching songs. More than anything it feels like he has been wasting his talent for decades by being this interpretive singer. But why should he try? People still buy his records, still go to his shows. That's enough for him, but is it enough for us?

Rob M Revisited, Sunday, 20 May 2012 07:06 (eight years ago) link

Dave Marsh refers to him as having turned into a "jaded middle-aged cad" at around this time and I'd find it hard to disagree. I don't doubt that the sentiments of "Georgie" are heartfelt and I see what he's getting at but sadly I don't think he quite gets there. It's like he's trying to hang on to a fragment of what/who he once was and it's too fragile for him to grasp.

I submit there's still enough going on in the eighties and nineties: "Oh God I Wish I Was Home Tonight," "Young Turks," of course, "People Get Ready," "This Old Heart of Mine" (genuine warmth b/w him and Isley), "Broken Arrow."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 May 2012 11:11 (eight years ago) link

Sadly none of it's going to get written about on TPL.

what are your thoughts on the singles I named?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 May 2012 20:32 (eight years ago) link

Only two of these were singles in the UK.

A month after "Georgie" entered the UK Top 40, it was joined by another gay death disc, namely the extraordinary "Under One Roof" from The Rubettes. As a troubled gay 14-year old, I was desperately grateful for any crumbs of comfort that could possibly be snatched from mainstream media, so - as Alfred suggests above - it was Rod's empathy rather than Georgie's tragedy which grabbed me the most. In fact, I could scarcely believe that a star of his standing was making such a bold statement of support - even if it was couched in the standard "victim" narrative of the time.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:54 (eight years ago) link

Only two of these were singles in the UK.

and you guys got "Baby Jane" at #1.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:55 (eight years ago) link

And it's on Now That's What I Call Music Volume 1 so I have to write about it. There's no justice, I tell you.

nine months pass...

He's got a new album coming...and as you let the horrifying awfulness wash over you, remember that this is what the label thinks are the highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSn8OzBKthQ

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 19:51 (seven years ago) link

TS: Old Sock vs. Old Rod

your fretless ways (Eazy), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 19:56 (seven years ago) link

a Pink Floyd cover?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 19:56 (seven years ago) link

wow, Sexual Religion is pretty edgy!

brio, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 20:04 (seven years ago) link

i'll take this over "the Great American Songbook, vol. 9"

weird how his voice sound younger now than it did 40 years ago. Where did that gravelly-ness go?

Lee626, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 00:05 (seven years ago) link

he wrote songs!

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 00:12 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Interview.

It’s not only his songwriting that made a return for Stewart on Time — he also produced the album, with Savigar engineering and mixing.

“People forget I am also a producer, as I’d even forgotten,” he laughs. “There were a lot of those early Seventies albums I did on my own. Even when I hired producers like Lou Reizner and Tom Dowd, I was really at the helm then.

“They were just like the conduit for me to get the band and me out of the pub and get us working.

“Tommy Dowd was always like a big schoolteacher with us. I did all the production really — it was all more or less my idea.”

Time includes one cover — Picture In A Frame by Tom Waits, from his 1999 record Mule Variations.

“I don’t know what it is about Tom Waits that suits me,” says Stewart. “Downtown Train was a hit for me in 1989 and that was one of his too. I’ve never ever met him either! And I’ve loved Picture In A Frame for a long time. So does Penny.

“And I’ve always done and am known for my covers. It’s very gratifying and satisfying to do them.”

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 May 2013 19:27 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

man, 'tonight's the night' is kind of a creepy song, isn't it?

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 13 July 2013 06:41 (six years ago) link

"stay away from my back door too"

shaane, Saturday, 13 July 2013 06:48 (six years ago) link

nine months pass...

I realised the other day "(I Know) I'm Losing You" might just be the best song on Every Picture Tells A Story. And this is an album with the title track and Mandolin Wind on it, not to kention Maggie May.

Berk errs Gibbs/Ox (aldo), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 20:52 (six years ago) link

Live version kills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrOPJXrUWII

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 20:53 (six years ago) link

I remember being disappointed when I first heard the Tempts original and it didn't have the chanting breakdown.

Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 21:00 (six years ago) link

That's a tight band coming in after the drum solo, right there.

Berk errs Gibbs/Ox (aldo), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 21:35 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Good day at the office - started out with "First Cut is the Deepest" and now onto 140 minutes of greatest Rod Stewart hits. How good are his covers?!

niels, Friday, 11 September 2015 08:40 (four years ago) link

nine months pass...

So, it would seem that Rod Stewart is now Sir Rod. I can't knock Faces, but at the same time, I can't help but wonder what the knighthood is for? "Services to supermodels"!?

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Saturday, 11 June 2016 09:19 (three years ago) link

Not being dead.

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Saturday, 11 June 2016 09:29 (three years ago) link

Great hair throughout

niels, Saturday, 11 June 2016 11:24 (three years ago) link

Great Scottish football songs

Master of Treacle, Saturday, 11 June 2016 11:52 (three years ago) link

That inspired Scotland teams to fail to progress beyond the initial group stages at two successive World Cups! Huzzah!

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Saturday, 11 June 2016 11:58 (three years ago) link

There's a great anthology called Reason To Believe that has all the early solo lps on 3 or 4cds. Think it has some bonus stuff too. Used to be pretty cheap a few years back.

Stevolende, Saturday, 11 June 2016 13:24 (three years ago) link

The man who brought Loaded culture to music and influenced Tesla, the Quireboys and Bryan Adams. Not a glimmer of intelligence, taste, or any artistic point whatever.

Vs

all you suckers are arguing over him while he's bareback with another blonde not surfing the net for one.

As always the truth is somewhere in between

Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Saturday, 11 June 2016 14:10 (three years ago) link

Well, he did help out Her Maj with that No. 1 single back in '77.

Johnny Cage - 4'33" Fatality (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 12 June 2016 01:25 (three years ago) link

eleven months pass...

STILL DUD

Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:08 (three years ago) link

Rod just shot up in my estimation.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:12 (three years ago) link

same

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:14 (three years ago) link

nine months pass...

The LED sun when it’s on your face really shows your second chin

calstars, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 23:24 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

he's good now

mark s, Thursday, 14 November 2019 16:51 (six months ago) link

in related news: he was never bad

mark s, Thursday, 14 November 2019 16:51 (six months ago) link

four months pass...

Outtake from 1975's ATLANTIC CROSSING, with Booker T & The MGs (and without the overdubbed strings that appear elsewhere). Wish he had done more like this - he reportedly left behind Faces and the UK to record a soul album, but what they actually put out wasn't quite that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mJUFv3ysVU

birdistheword, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 02:26 (one month ago) link

The voice is amazing. The ballads are really dodgy.

The dodgier, the better if you ask me.

There's a recent-ish David Lee Roth interview on YouTube where he tries explaining the basic concept of Van Halen, but keeps getting sidetracked by the radio host who clearly doesn't see where he's is going with all this and he never quite makes the point he's building up to. First, he compares Toto and their catalog to 'West Side Story' - undeniable classic songs, but the performers are interchangeable. It doesn't matter who the players are, the material is the real substance of the thing. As an example of the inverse -the KING, in fact- he names Rod Stewart.
From there, he loses focus but the suggestion is presumably that for Van Halen, as Rod Stewart, the material was merely a vehicle for the personalities of the performers. They could do whatever kind of song, it didn't even have to be 'good'. As Van Halen were obviously the best and most important rock band ever, I'm inclined to concede to DLR's view.

Look at that storyteller thumbnail, I mean, you don't even have to listen to the record, you don't even need his face on the cover. The hair says it all. Rod Stewart is David Lee Roth without the winks, and you can't teach that. ObvIously DESTROY ALL MANDOLINS tho, ffs.

Deflatormouse, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 04:20 (one month ago) link

Thanks for the link. That era's close to a wasteland for me, but I posted a track list of what I'd listen to from that time. (Things went downhill fast - nothing past 1980.) The best stuff from Faces, the first four Mercury albums and his 1973 single "Oh No Not My Baby"/"Jodie" are unimpeachable, and even though his prior sessions with Jeff Beck never sustained their full potential, they cut some good stuff. After that, I think the "Unplugged" special, a reunion with Ronnie Wood, is surprisingly charming, and the one rock album he recorded in the '90s is supposedly not bad, but I've yet to listen to it.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 14:42 (one month ago) link


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