TS: Paul Weller vs Ian Mackaye

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they seemed harmless at the time

― dave q (listerine), Sunday, 26 March 2006 08:12 (twenty years ago)

also - whatever happened to political music in britain?

― dave q (listerine), Sunday, 26 March 2006 08:14 (twenty years ago)

Weller vs Mackaye - interesting bout, both in pretty good shape.

Political music - still going on, but generally derided, not least around here.

― Soukesian, Sunday, 26 March 2006 08:34 (twenty years ago)

Does Weller still do political music? I fell asleep sometime around the Small Faces covers. Ian Mackaye on the other hand is JESUS.

― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Sunday, 26 March 2006 09:32 (twenty years ago)

turning wine into water no doubt

― grapple (grapple), Sunday, 26 March 2006 09:37 (twenty years ago)

hehehe

― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Sunday, 26 March 2006 09:38 (twenty years ago)

alt q - John Weller vs Mathew Knowles

― dave q (listerine), Sunday, 26 March 2006 13:55 (twenty years ago)

they're still harmless innit

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Sunday, 26 March 2006 13:59 (twenty years ago)

I love that people are still trotting out Ian Mackaye strawmen from like 1983.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Sunday, 26 March 2006 16:45 (twenty years ago)

matt otm, harshing on Mackaye for being straightedge is sorta like complaining that Jimmy Carter's doing a terrible job of running the country

however I do think it's fair to ask (what Dave is doing I think) what the lineage is from Mackaye or Weller

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Sunday, 26 March 2006 17:05 (twenty years ago)

Mackaye = 20+ years of great music and lots of horrible imitators.
Weller = 2 or 3 albums worth of great music and lots of really horrible imitators.

― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Sunday, 26 March 2006 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Weller has his faults, but damn if I don't have a soft spot for 'im. I mean even if you ignore everything else, his voice on some of those Style Council records is just amazing.

― The Sound of Walls (Bimble...), Sunday, 26 March 2006 18:32 (twenty years ago)

Style Council is easily my favourite Weller stuff, it's the only reason I have any time for him at all.

― Why does the birds always shitting on me? (noodle vague), Sunday, 26 March 2006 18:40 (twenty years ago)

I dunno how anyone can not like sound affects

....and as for my ian mackaye " harshing" ..fuck...is he that much of a god to seppos.....was only a wee joke - c'mon

― grapple (grapple), Monday, 27 March 2006 01:55 (twenty years ago)

wot means "seppos"

I think you missed the point grapple - the point is, the last time mackaye made any issue at all out of straightedge was twenty-plus years ago: the only people who think "garr that sanctimonious twat!" are themselves sanctimonious twats, just of a diff. persuasion, 'cause as I say the last time mackaye did any "lecturing" about straight edge was fuckin' 1983

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Monday, 27 March 2006 02:55 (twenty years ago)

Noodle, your spot as my favourite ILM poster has just been cemented, it's official etc.

― The Sound of Walls (Bimble...), Monday, 27 March 2006 03:38 (twenty years ago)

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