TS: Eyehategod -VS- Melvins

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There are a lot of Melvins taking sides threads! I thought I'd add one.

So, I'm reading the new Decibel, and this month in the Decibel Hall Of Fame section they give the nod to *Take As Needed For Pain* by Eyehategod and it's a fine choice. A great album and a big personal fave of mine, although I like all their albums fine, so any of them would do. My two favorite rock bands of the 90's were probably Denim and Eyehategod. I love Eyehategod to death and I'm pretty unconditional about them. Anyway, in the oral history of the making of the album the dudes mention that they brought St.Vitus albums and Gluey Porch Treatments by Melvins to the studio to give the clueless guy recording them an idea of what they were going for. This might be the first thing I have EVER read that makes me want to hear the Melvins! I'm gonna buy that album. But Melvins couldn't be as great as Eyehategod, could they? I don't even think that St.Vitus are as great as Eyehategod. (The Cash Money crew were recording down the hall from Eyehategod at the same time during the Take As Needed For pain sessions. Oh to be a fly on the wall!)

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:51 (twenty years ago)

Nobody's as balls-out as EHG, but the Melvins are consistently interesting - I think you'd dig 'em. But they're pretty artsy, whereas EHG has that Artaud art-as-total-immersion thing goin'...good God their SF show I saw ca. '99 or '00 was one of the most monstrous things I've ever seen.

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:56 (twenty years ago)

but to answer the question: EHG by toothless KO

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:56 (twenty years ago)

I always wanted to hear Gluey Porch Treatments (but no other Melvins albums). I never wanted to hear Eyehategod because they have a terrible name.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:57 (twenty years ago)

Dopesick is so fucking good. but so is Bullhead.

electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:57 (twenty years ago)

Not as good a name as Of Cabbages and Kings, for example.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:57 (twenty years ago)

It's a freakin' great name, Tim.

Melvins for me but I am biased.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:58 (twenty years ago)

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what're you talking about its a great/awful name, not an awful/awful name

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:58 (twenty years ago)

No you have that wrong.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:58 (twenty years ago)

Eyeamgod would have been preferable.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:59 (twenty years ago)

Hooboy.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 22:00 (twenty years ago)

i can't take sides, i hate taking sides. suffice it to say if you haven't heard the early melvins shit you need to, but they're not on a broken glass and heroin nihilism trip like EHG. maybe a flipper and airplane glue trip.

i'm beginning to think proximity to mike williams leads to heroin addiction (anselmo, BG).

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 22:00 (twenty years ago)

Eyelikegod?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 22:12 (twenty years ago)

gluey porch treatments is one of my favorite things ever

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 22:24 (twenty years ago)

soooooo heavy

melvins win, but eyelike eyehategod

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 22:25 (twenty years ago)

In the Name of Suffering > Take as Needed For Pain

/me aaaaaaaaaa (eman), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 22:32 (twenty years ago)

oh c'mon now, it's all about Dopesick PERIOD, I like the whole catalog but Dopesick is such a concentrated, highly distilled vision - it's like everything everybody in the band is driving at packed into every sludgy minute

the Melvins are fun! Eyehategod are only fun if you have a really hateful sense of "fun" which I do which is why I take EHG in this'n

I would actually put Khanate's most recent in the same vein as EHG, only Khanate dude is tryin' way harder that Mike, whose nihilism comes natch'ral

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 27 April 2006 00:35 (twenty years ago)

Dopesmoker > Dopesick ;]

/me aaaaaaaaaa (eman), Thursday, 27 April 2006 00:40 (twenty years ago)

Eyehategod. Fucking landslide. Last EHG hometown show was one of the best I've seen from any band ever.

I like Confederacy and Take As Needed more than Dopesick but even the lamest Jimmy Bower side project is better than the entire Melvins catalog (which is still pretty good).

adam (adam), Thursday, 27 April 2006 00:44 (twenty years ago)

FYI: It was Phil Anselmo's idea to split "Sister Fucker" into two parts.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 27 April 2006 01:09 (twenty years ago)

In the Name of Suffering > Take as Needed For Pain

true!

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Thursday, 27 April 2006 01:15 (twenty years ago)

They tune down to C.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 27 April 2006 04:57 (twenty years ago)

The first time I saw Eyehategod, Mike Williams looked like he was gonna fall over any second, and the rest of the band looked like if he did fall over, they'd leave him right where he landed. They were opening for Unsane and Neurosis; one of the best Irving Plaza shows I've ever seen. The second time I saw them was at CBGBs with Buzzoven and Mike Williams was stuck in NO for legal reasons, so a roadie or somebody was singing. I met Jimmy Bower by the pool table; he was wearing the best hat I've ever seen...a black baseball cap with a pentagram/goat's head and below that was written "The New South." I wanted to steal it right off his head because I knew I'd never see one in a store.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:49 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and I just don't like the Melvins very much at all.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:50 (twenty years ago)

Sorry man, Eyehategod is an awful, awful name.

We should have a thread where we just vote on if we like the name Eyehategod or not.

Period period period (Period period period), Thursday, 27 April 2006 13:30 (twenty years ago)

Melvins!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 27 April 2006 13:37 (twenty years ago)

EYEHATEGOD are way looser and do the black flag thing a bit better than the MELVINS.

But I'll take the MELVINS for the sheer tightness of the SLUDGE.

both bands rule pretty hard.

ddb (ddb), Thursday, 27 April 2006 13:46 (twenty years ago)

also: the SOILENT GREEN / EYEHATEGOD split is the best 7" I OWN.


IMHO: I'd take SOILENT GREEN over EYEHATEGOD

ddb (ddb), Thursday, 27 April 2006 13:52 (twenty years ago)

that's just insane.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Thursday, 27 April 2006 19:09 (twenty years ago)

BITTEN INTO SYMPATHY AND MADE TO FLEX WITH YOU

Washable School Paste (sexyDancer), Thursday, 27 April 2006 19:14 (twenty years ago)

you wanna talk about bad band names?

the first time I saw EYEHATEGOD was at Tipitina's in 1993 or so, on a weeknight. loud, sludgy, drummer used a floor tom in place of the snare. cute. they opened for a band called NIPPLES OF ISIS (a local junk-rock/Boredoms kinda outfit) who stole the show.

i saw the Melvins live a few years ago and preferred them. cause they have, like, chops and all. the tight sludge is the right sludge.

New Orleans had a monstrous metal scene there for a while: Graveyard Rodeo, Soilent Green, Exhorder, Bastard Child, Viril Nihils, Weedeater, etc.

the matching mole, Thursday, 27 April 2006 19:44 (twenty years ago)

i almost blew my speakers just now playing "Blank". god, what a song. one of the dudes in the Decibel thing says that he would feel funny if they didn't play "Blank" at a live show.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 27 April 2006 19:47 (twenty years ago)

The Melvins are a complete package. eyehategod is a one dimensional sludge act. It's like comparing a Grade 1 stakes winning thoroughbred to a quarterhorse that's come in third a couple times.

Uncle Tom (Uncle Tom), Friday, 28 April 2006 03:02 (twenty years ago)

Melvins if for nothing else than their ability to not only rattle time+space, but to shake it loose from it's very moorings and send it careening into nothingness.
they made my eyeballs hurt, and they had next to no lights.
they made my stomach feel like i'd been hit by a very strong guy.

it's the audio equialent of being thrown into a wall by a giant, repeatedly, and in sync w/ the drums...
Melvins by a country mile.

eedd, Friday, 28 April 2006 15:06 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
they've gotten the remaster/reissue treatment and i bought three of them, two of which i already had. am i stupid? i'm mostly just curious what 'in the name of suffering' and 'dopesick' will sound like remastered, and i needed a copy of 'take as needed for pain' anyway. the stickers say liner notes by mike williams and new artwork or something. scott seward? didja know about these?

[URL]Internet casino gambling online[/URL] (eman), Sunday, 16 July 2006 01:51 (nineteen years ago)

yah, filthy phil freeman brought them to my attention. i already own them all though. i guess if they were super-fancy double-disc extravaganzas i would shell out for them. with dvd action or something. i just have a hard time believing that take as needed for pain could EVER sound any better than it already does. or did. i mean, i love how they all sound. i could imagine punching up in the name of suffering, but i kinda like how scuzzy it is. or was.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 16 July 2006 03:00 (nineteen years ago)

ok the remastering is mostly just running stuff through the louderizer, but it kind of improves the first one. also the extra tracks on dopesick are great EXCEPT for the one that has someone trying to rap (lolwtf) over the song. the booklet of the first album look soooo shitty so i'm swapping w/ the toher booklet and then selling it heh. the "liner notes" aare very meh. save your money, in other words. "take as needed.." is still the shit.

lmaoborghini (eman), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 03:36 (nineteen years ago)

Melvins. All the way. Did more, invented more, rocked harder, rocked better, etc. Been in their corner since the late 80s: they've rarely let me down and never bored me.

Dig Eyehategod, don't get me wrong, but agree that the're a one-dimensional band. Terribly limited by their narrow sonic/emotional range. They do what they do VERY well, and all bow down and cetera, but I just don't get anywhere near as much out of them as I do the Melvins.

One could argue that the Melvins are too goofy, and that they lack Eyehategod's intensity and integrity, and, in arguing this, I suppose that one would be right. But I don't care. I'll take brains, humor, balls and ROCK over "authentically" dopesick despair anyday...

fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qikcEV2W1oY

am0n, Thursday, 13 December 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

Man, I got a free Eyehategod album back in the '90s through a friend of a friend and I don't know what happened to it. I think I got them confused with Head of David, which I got around the same time.

I eat cannibals, Thursday, 13 December 2007 21:59 (eighteen years ago)

eyehategod by a country mile. one dotted with weed fields and meth labs.

pshrbrn, Thursday, 13 December 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

live 1989
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ws-LOWN_RRc

am0n, Thursday, 13 December 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

I like both. I've seen both. I own all the important records.

I will take Melvins in a landslide.

Big points for Mike punching some dude in the front row the first time I saw EHG (back in '96 opening for Neurosis; Dead & Gone opened.)

Bigger points for Melvins having the greatest living rock drummer. Bonham and Moon did not live long enough to get as good as Crover IS.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 13 December 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)

Like both but easily Melvins ftw

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 13 December 2007 22:36 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://merlin.pl/Dragging-Down-The-Enforcer_Outlaw-Order,images_product,2,CDSOM184.jpg

this is good. pretty much the eyehategod lineup give or take a couple guys

eman, Friday, 30 January 2009 04:04 (seventeen years ago)

The first time I saw Eyehategod was in '96. They were opening for Neurosis on the Through Silver in Blood Tour. Dead & Gone were the openers. Jimmy had a bit St Vitus sticker on his amp.

Someone in the crowd mouthed off and Mike (EHG's singer) leaned forward and decked him with his free hand while singing into the mic in his other hand.

That was an awesome show.

Nate Carson, Friday, 30 January 2009 09:13 (seventeen years ago)

big not bit

Nate Carson, Friday, 30 January 2009 09:14 (seventeen years ago)

So funny that there's so much, er, hate for Eyehategod's name on this thread. I was thinking the same thing even before I read the first example of it.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Friday, 30 January 2009 09:42 (seventeen years ago)

haha nate, see 3 posts up

eman, Friday, 30 January 2009 16:17 (seventeen years ago)

OMG What happened to the Melvins?

http://i44.tinypic.com/330fayg.jpg

StanM, Friday, 30 January 2009 16:19 (seventeen years ago)

The first time I saw Eyehategod was in '96. They were opening for Neurosis on the Through Silver in Blood Tour. Dead & Gone were the openers. Jimmy had a bit St Vitus sticker on his amp. Someone in the crowd mouthed off and Mike (EHG's singer) leaned forward and decked him with his free hand while singing into the mic in his other hand. That was an awesome show.

I saw that same tour in NYC, with Unsane also on the bill. I remember thinking Mike was gonna fall over any second, and if he did, his bandmates were just gonna leave him lying there. They were the scariest band (not Alice Cooper showbiz "scary," but genuine these-people-will-fuck-you-up scary) I've ever seen. And yet Dopesick (the album they were touring behind) is one of the greatest metal records of the 1990s.

unperson, Friday, 30 January 2009 16:42 (seventeen years ago)

diggin the outlaw order record

J0hn D., Friday, 30 January 2009 16:54 (seventeen years ago)

how is the first one??

lucas pine, Friday, 30 January 2009 18:24 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, the new Outlaw Order really surprised me by how good it was, I wasn't really knocked out by their first one. For all its EHG similarities, though, it's lacking the presence that Jimmy Bower brings...that dude's a master of the sludgy, bluesy Sabbath riff.

I've always wanted to see these guys live, but there's no hope of them ever making it north of the border! Wish I was going to Scion Rock Fest...

A. Begrand, Friday, 30 January 2009 18:40 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

March 13 - Club Dada - Dallas, TX
March 14 - The 3rd Floor - Little Rock, AR (feat. VOLTUREBAIT)
March 17 - Metal Shaker - Chicago, IL
March 18 - Blind Pig - Ann Arbor, MI (feat.
March 19 - The Grog Shop - Cleveland, OH (feat. RUE)
March 20 - Zanies Too - Indianapolis, IN (feat. THE DREAM IS DEAD)
March 21 - The American Legion - Buffalo, NY
March 23 - Church - Boston, MA (feat. MORNE)
March 24 - Club Europe - Brooklyn, NY
March 27- Cafe Metropolis - Wilkes-Borro, PA
March 28 - Ottobar - Baltimore, MD
March 31 - Drunken Unicorn - Atlanta, GA

eman, Thursday, 5 March 2009 03:11 (seventeen years ago)

^ outlaw order dates

eman, Thursday, 5 March 2009 03:11 (seventeen years ago)

i wanna go to the melvins Houdini show

autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 5 March 2009 03:41 (seventeen years ago)

b-more outlaw order show cancelled (at sonar, not ottobar). can't say i'm surprised, eyehategod has a history of doing this iirc

eman, Saturday, 14 March 2009 00:59 (seventeen years ago)

five months pass...

some more soon-to-be-cancelled dates:

EYEHATEGOD have lined up the following upcoming East Coast tour dates with GOATWHORE and STRONG INTENTION:

October 23 – Baltimore, MD @ Ottobar w/ Pig Destroyer, Swarm of the Lotus, Triac
October 24 – New York, NY @ The Temptress (boat cruise) w/ Pig Destroyer
October 25 – Cambridge, MA @ Middle East w/ Anal Cunt, Howl, Rampant Decay

( ´_ゝ˙) (Dr. Phil), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 18:43 (sixteen years ago)

(boat cruise)

( ´_ゝ˙) (Dr. Phil), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 18:44 (sixteen years ago)

fuk yes

Moka Pwnly (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 18:48 (sixteen years ago)

(boat cruise)

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_WhFslSriPmM/R5wwG93NIZI/AAAAAAAAAQQ/wwSPQPdPBHM/7P-the+Nile+garbage+boat.JPG

scott seward, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 18:59 (sixteen years ago)

fuck you picasaweb!

garbagebarge.jpeg

scott seward, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 19:00 (sixteen years ago)

oh I fucking DARE ppl to go on that cruise, lols for DAYS

Man Is Nairf! (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 19:20 (sixteen years ago)

(boat cruise) w/ Pig Destroyer

( ´_ゝ˙) (Dr. Phil), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 20:59 (sixteen years ago)

youtube comments gold:

eyehategod666 (7 months ago)
my mom threw out one of my ehg shirts, fucking close minded cunts

texasB666 (7 months ago)
ah that sux man, i painted EYEHATEGOD on my wall so all she can do is throw me out,i could care less

wav3form (9 months ago)
Saw these guys in Buffalo... my fucking dad threw out my eyehategod t-shirt.... fucking asshole.

m0stlyClean, Friday, 21 August 2009 01:19 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

There's a big article on Eyehategod in the second issue of Burning Ambulance, which is available here, now. End of commercial.

Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 30 August 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

whoa darius jones on the cover, kickass!

hold me, thrill me, kiss me, lil b (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 30 August 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/oakland_county/%27eyehategod%27-fan-arrested-in-church-break-in

'EYEHATEGOD' fan arrested in church break-in

Rochester Hills, Mich. (WXYZ) - Deputies from the Oakland County Sheriff's Department arrested 22-year-old Bradley Dishner Saturday morning for breaking into the St. Paul Albanian Catholic church on Auburn Road in Rochester Hills.

Deputies were called to the parish after a member of the church saw glass broken out of a door.

A man was spotted by a priest in the altar area of the church, but he ran out of the church and into the woods.

Deputies caught the man in the wooded area behind the church and took him into custody. He was wearing a t-shirt that read "EYEHATEGOD" on the front and back. It is the name of an American metal band. He told deputies he had been drinking and smoking marijuana before breaking into the church.

Dishner was arraigned Monday in Oakland County. He is currently in the Oakland County Jail.

Deputies say there was nothing stolen or vandalized other than the door.

elmao fuiudd (am0n), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 17:52 (fifteen years ago)

http://media2.wxyz.com//photo/2010/09/13/dishnernew_20100913174949_320_240.JPG

elmao fuiudd (am0n), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 17:52 (fifteen years ago)

two years pass...

rip

http://www.nola.com/music/index.ssf/2013/08/joseph_lacaze_drummer_for_new.html

am0n, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 18:36 (twelve years ago)

seven months pass...

new drummer, upcoming tour. i'll be going. the bill also has high on fire and c.o.c.

am0n, Monday, 14 April 2014 16:55 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

hey guys the new album is really good. i don't know if yall are talking about it on the rolling metal critic promo discussion and aspergers poll thread but we can talk about it here too. i think it sounds convincingly like ehg, even if "parish motel sickness" is kinda disco.

adam, Monday, 9 June 2014 20:27 (twelve years ago)

three months pass...

it is good. i like how the production sounds almost exactly like 'take as needed...'

am0n, Friday, 12 September 2014 15:50 (eleven years ago)

two years pass...

back on tour w/ Mike, eh?

I'm takin a mini vacay to ATL cos Decapitated are there a few nights later, gonna catch em with Negative Approach!

Neanderthal, Friday, 4 August 2017 01:32 (eight years ago)

the clip of that above mentioned "boat cruise" show, which I very well may have found via this board, is some George Romero shit
https://youtu.be/HQTJmetoGNo

so much going on in that 10 mins

Devilock, Friday, 4 August 2017 05:23 (eight years ago)


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