Which groups have the worst ratio in this regard?
I nominate Alice Cooper. His best albums had a lot of filler on them and there were many, many albums that only had filler (at best). The fact that his Greatest Hits compilation is possibly the only album of Cooper's that is truly essential speaks volumes.
What other groups or solo performers have vast catalogs, yet almost none of it you really need to own?
― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Thursday, 27 April 2006 23:29 (twenty years ago)
I have a feeling you have just let yourself into a world of hurt.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 April 2006 23:31 (twenty years ago)
― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Thursday, 27 April 2006 23:35 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 27 April 2006 23:36 (twenty years ago)
http://www.journeymusic.com/index2.html
Someone come forth to defend the discography of Journey! I command thee!
― M. Biondi (M. Biondi), Thursday, 27 April 2006 23:43 (twenty years ago)
crazy talk!
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 27 April 2006 23:45 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 27 April 2006 23:47 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 27 April 2006 23:47 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 27 April 2006 23:49 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 27 April 2006 23:50 (twenty years ago)
Pash to thread to correct me pronto.
― Every Time I Open Up My Mouth All Bullets Spit Out: Bang! (noodle vague), Thursday, 27 April 2006 23:52 (twenty years ago)
More crazy talk! Stop the insanity!
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 28 April 2006 00:06 (twenty years ago)
but anyway, on second (or third) thought:
1978 Ready for the House Corwood Industries 1981 Later On Corwood Industries 1981 Six and Six Corwood Industries 1982 Chair Beside a Window Corwood Industries 1982 Living in a Moon So Blue Corwood Industries 1982 Staring at the Cellophane Corwood Industries 1983 The Rocks Crumble Corwood Industries 1983 Your Turn to Fall Corwood Industries 1984 Interstellar Discussion Corwood 1985 Foreign Keys Corwood 1985 Nine-Thirty Corwood 1986 Follow Your Footsteps Corwood Industries 1986 Telegraph Melts Corwood 1987 Blue Corpse Corwood 1987 Modern Dances Corwood 1988 On the Way Corwood 1988 You Walk Alone Corwood 1989 The Living End Corwood 1990 Somebody in the Snow Corwood 1991 One Foot in the North Corwood 1992 Lost Cause Corwood Industries 1993 Twelfth Apostle Corwood Industries 1994 Glad to Get Away Corwood Industries 1994 Graven Image Corwood Industries 1996 White Box Requiem Corwood Industries 1997 I Woke Up Corwood Industries 1998 New Town Corwood Industries 1999 The Beginning Corwood Industries 2000 Put My Dream on This Planet Corwood Industries 2001 This Narrow Road Corwood Industries 2002 The Humility of Pain Corwood 2003 The Place Corwood 2003 The Gone Wait Corwood 2004 A Kingdom He Likes Corwood 2004 I Threw You Away Corwood 2004 The Door Behind Corwood 2004 Worthless Recluse Corwood 2004 Shadow of Leaves Corwood 2004 The End of It All 2005 When I Took That Train Corwood Industries 2005 Raining Down Diamonds Corwood Industries 2005 Glasgow Sunday [live] Corwood 2005 Khartoum Corwood 2006 Khartoum Variations Corwood Industries 2006 Newcastle Sunday Corwood Industries 2006 What Else Does the Time Mean Corwood Industries
― xhuxk, Friday, 28 April 2006 00:07 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 28 April 2006 00:11 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Friday, 28 April 2006 00:14 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 28 April 2006 00:16 (twenty years ago)
1973 February THE SIX WIVES OF HENRY VIII1974 May JOURNEY TO THE CENTRE OF THE EARTH1975 April THE MYTHS AND LEGENDS OF KING ARTHUR AND THE KNIGHTS OF THE ROUND TABLE1977 November RICK WAKEMAN'S CRIMINAL RECORD1982 December ROCK AND ROLL PROPHET1983 COST OF LIVING1985 March SILENT NIGHTS1987 March CRIMES OF PASSION1988 February A SUITE OF GODS1989 November SEA AIRS1990 November NIGHT AIRS1991 THE CLASSICAL CONNECTION1993 February WAKEMAN WITH WAKEMAN1993 November NO EXPENSE SPARED1993 December RICK WAKEMAN'S GREATEST HITS1994 April 27 WAKEMAN WITH WAKEMAN: THE OFFICIAL BOOTLEG1995 July CIRQUE SURREAL1996 February 27 KING BISCUIT FLOWER HOUR PRESENTS RICK WAKEMAN IN CONCERT1997 SIMPLY ACOUSTIC2000 July 11 STELLA BIANCA
Most are very much crap, 'tis true. Also have one called TAPESTRIES, which I don't see listed there.
― Joe (Joe), Friday, 28 April 2006 00:16 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 28 April 2006 00:17 (twenty years ago)
Dozens (literally) of album and maybe, what, three decent songs?
― S- (sgh), Friday, 28 April 2006 00:56 (twenty years ago)
― vartman (novaheat), Friday, 28 April 2006 01:14 (twenty years ago)
Also, Bowie, although I understand that this is just me, who thinks he's written maybe 5 good songs in his entire career. We don't have to start arguing about that one though.
― Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 28 April 2006 01:29 (twenty years ago)
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 28 April 2006 01:31 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Friday, 28 April 2006 01:34 (twenty years ago)
― adam (adam), Friday, 28 April 2006 01:39 (twenty years ago)
― Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Friday, 28 April 2006 01:58 (twenty years ago)
― timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 28 April 2006 02:01 (twenty years ago)
― timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 28 April 2006 02:02 (twenty years ago)
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Friday, 28 April 2006 02:09 (twenty years ago)
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Friday, 28 April 2006 02:24 (twenty years ago)
― jason p. rainbow, Friday, 28 April 2006 02:57 (twenty years ago)
― Uncle Tom (Uncle Tom), Friday, 28 April 2006 03:34 (twenty years ago)
― nate woolls (napawo), Friday, 28 April 2006 06:58 (twenty years ago)
― Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Friday, 28 April 2006 07:21 (twenty years ago)
― nicky lo-fi (nicky lo-fi), Friday, 28 April 2006 07:25 (twenty years ago)
― Earl Nash (earlnash), Friday, 28 April 2006 07:47 (twenty years ago)
― amateurist0, Friday, 28 April 2006 07:57 (twenty years ago)
― Kim Tortoise, Friday, 28 April 2006 11:58 (twenty years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Friday, 28 April 2006 12:02 (twenty years ago)
― They're Dairylea Mad, Them Kids (Dada), Friday, 28 April 2006 12:06 (twenty years ago)
http://www.vinylvulture.co.uk/pages/images/records/last-1.jpg
x-post!
― NickB (NickB), Friday, 28 April 2006 12:07 (twenty years ago)
Nonsense!
― Niall, Friday, 28 April 2006 12:12 (twenty years ago)
But therein lies the challenge! To differentiate between "truly essential" and the merely "not terrible". How many Rick Wakeman albums are essential, as opposed to passable? (Maybe all of 'em, don't ask me, I've never heard any.)
I agree that Zappa's an excellent choice.
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 28 April 2006 12:27 (twenty years ago)
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 28 April 2006 12:28 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 28 April 2006 12:33 (twenty years ago)
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Friday, 28 April 2006 12:39 (twenty years ago)
Howlin' Wind, 1976 Heat Treatment, 1976 Pink Parker EP, 1977 Stick To Me, 1977 Squeezing Out Sparks, 1979 The Up Escalator, 1980 Another Grey Area, 1982 The Real Macaw, 1983 Graham Parker & The ShotSteady Nerves, 1985 Mona Lisa's Sister, 1988 Human Soul, 1989 Struck by Lightning, 1991 Burning Questions, 1992 Graham Parker's Christmas Cracker EP, 1994 12 Haunted Episodes, 1995 Acid Bubblegum, 1996 Loose Monkeys (outtakes), 1999 That's When You Know (1976 demos + Live at Marble Arch), 2001 Deepcut To Nowhere, 2001 Your Country, 2004 Songs of No Consequence, 2005
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 28 April 2006 13:04 (twenty years ago)
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 28 April 2006 13:51 (twenty years ago)
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Friday, 28 April 2006 13:51 (twenty years ago)
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 28 April 2006 13:56 (twenty years ago)
My view of the world has been shaken.
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 28 April 2006 14:01 (twenty years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 28 April 2006 17:28 (twenty years ago)
Who was first-rate British R&B during this period, then? I don't know how great the early Stones albums were, but they were a great singles band then and had lots of great tracks.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 28 April 2006 17:29 (twenty years ago)
Nobody. R&B already existed in America, and the best Brit bands did their own archetypically English musical thing, called Merseybeat, rather than aping already existing American genres.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 28 April 2006 17:31 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 28 April 2006 17:32 (twenty years ago)
― ath (ath), Friday, 28 April 2006 17:35 (twenty years ago)
As for The Fall, Are You Are Missing Winner is the only truly bad album in their entire catalog and the last 2 have been awesome.
― Matt Berlyant (incarag), Friday, 28 April 2006 18:06 (twenty years ago)
In 1964, definitely.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 28 April 2006 19:13 (twenty years ago)
― Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Friday, 28 April 2006 20:11 (twenty years ago)
(plus first two albums)
vs.
I'm The One / You've Got What I LikeColumbia DB7189 (January 1964)
Don't Let The Sun Catch You Crying / Show Me That You CareColumbia DB7268 (April 1964)
It's Gonna Be Alright / It's Just BecauseColumbia DB7353 (September 1964)
Ferry Cross The Mersey / You You YouColumbia DB7437 (December 1964)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 28 April 2006 20:12 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 28 April 2006 20:14 (twenty years ago)
And, really, the first good Rolling Stones album was "Aftermath". That was in 1966.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 28 April 2006 21:30 (twenty years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 28 April 2006 21:31 (twenty years ago)
― QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Friday, 28 April 2006 21:33 (twenty years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 28 April 2006 21:37 (twenty years ago)
So you liked Calling All Stations?
― LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Friday, 28 April 2006 21:45 (twenty years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 28 April 2006 21:46 (twenty years ago)
There are just so many bands that have a strong start and that's enough for them to get a record deal for tons of albums, that just end up churning them out . . .
― andrew b (klik99), Friday, 28 April 2006 22:32 (twenty years ago)
― someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Friday, 28 April 2006 22:46 (twenty years ago)
― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Friday, 28 April 2006 22:54 (twenty years ago)
* 1959 Cliff * 1959 Cliff Sings * 1960 Me and My Shadows * 1961 Listen to Cliff * 1961 21 Today * 1961 The Young Ones [soundtrack] * 1962 32 Minutes & 17 Seconds * 1963 Summer Holiday [soundtrack] * 1963 Cliff's Hit Album * 1963 When In Spain * 1963 Wonderful Life [soundtrack] * 1964 Aladdin & His Wonderful Lamp [pantomime] * 1965 Cliff Richard * 1965 More Hits By Cliff * 1965 When In Rome * 1965 Love Is Forever * 1966 Kinda Latin * 1966 Finders Keepers [soundtrack] * 1967 Cinderella [pantomime] * 1967 Don't Stop Me Now * 1967 Good News * 1968 Cliff In Japan * 1968 Two a Penny [soundtrack] * 1968 Established 1958 * 1969 The Best Of Cliff * 1969 Sincerely Cliff * 1969 Live At The Talk of The Town * 1970 Tracks & Grooves * 1972 The Best Of Cliff Volume 2 * 1973 Take Me High [soundtrack] * 1974 Help It Along * 1974 The 31st of February Street * 1976 I'm Nearly Famous * 1977 Every Face Tells a Story * 1977 40 Golden Greats * 1978 Small Corners * 1978 Green Light * 1979 Thank You Very Much * 1979 Rock n' Roll Juvenile * 1980 I'm No Hero * 1981 Love Songs * 1981 Wired For Sound * 1982 Now You See Me... Now You Don't * 1983 Dressed For The Occasion * 1983 Silver * 1984 The Rock Connection * 1987 Always Guaranteed * 1988 Private Collection: 1979-1988 * 1989 Stronger * 1990 From A Distance: The Event * 1991 Together With Cliff Richard * 1993 The Album * 1994 The Hit List * 1998 Real As I Wanna Be * 2000 The Whole Story: His Greatest Hits * 2001 Wanted * 2003 Cliff At Christmas * 2004 Something's Goin' On
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 28 April 2006 22:57 (twenty years ago)
― andrew b (klik99), Friday, 28 April 2006 22:58 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 28 April 2006 23:04 (twenty years ago)
― When I Open Up My Mouth All Bullets Spit Out: Bang! (noodle vague), Friday, 28 April 2006 23:14 (twenty years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 28 April 2006 23:38 (twenty years ago)
I think the problem most folks have with The Fall is that once you've heard one album, you've heard them all. At least 90% of their back catalogue is entirely worthless.
― Qqq, Saturday, 29 April 2006 00:51 (twenty years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 29 April 2006 01:10 (twenty years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 29 April 2006 01:11 (twenty years ago)
― Earl Nash (earlnash), Saturday, 29 April 2006 02:16 (twenty years ago)
― When I Open Up My Mouth All Bullets Spit Out: Bang! (noodle vague), Saturday, 29 April 2006 02:17 (twenty years ago)
the Residents?
― bill neil (inabillity), Saturday, 29 April 2006 03:04 (twenty years ago)
Provocation: 4/10Shrewd Observation: 2/10UTTER FUCKING STUPIDITY: 11/10
― There's a Guy Works Down the Chip Shop Swears He's Elvish (noodle vague), Saturday, 29 April 2006 08:22 (twenty years ago)
― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Saturday, 29 April 2006 10:09 (twenty years ago)
Mmm, good call in the "completely failed to deliver on early genius" category, but there are worse people upthread. I'd take Wormwood over Chicago XX anyday.
― Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Saturday, 29 April 2006 18:21 (twenty years ago)
First album was great, second one was OK, the rest are all rubbish.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 29 April 2006 20:42 (twenty years ago)
I weep for you poor souls deceived my MES, I really do.
― Qqq, Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:00 (twenty years ago)
I weep for you poor souls deceived BY MES, I really do.
― Qqq, Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:01 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:02 (twenty years ago)
― Qqq, Saturday, 29 April 2006 22:05 (twenty years ago)
― Ant, Saturday, 29 April 2006 23:31 (twenty years ago)
-- eedd (e...), April 28th, 2006."
I agree whole heartedly with Genesis, All, DMB, and Phish. Furthermore I pretty much nominate any band comes even remotely close to calling itself a “Jam” band. However, While the Beatles’ super early stuff it not totally enthralling, Rubber soul, Revolver, Sgt. Pepper, and Abbey Road are all tremendous albums to name a few. And The White Album is quite possibly one of the most creative/original/best all around albums of all time.
And as for Radiohead, each of their albums is host to numerous tracks whose style/instrumentation are intensely innovative and whose moving vocals/enigmatic lyrics never cease to capture both important social issues and a wide range of genuine emotions. To be sure they do not always fair well against Nickleback and 50 Cent in the top 40 race, but every one of their albums is a jewel.
― Joseph Ames Herbert, Sunday, 30 April 2006 12:54 (twenty years ago)
radiohead=nearly as over-rated. perhaps someday i'll be able to listen w/o hearing every critic/fan drooling all over their music in ways i can't fathom.
then again, i'm a VU lover, and i'm sure someone would say THEIR output was 'dreck'...
― eedd, Sunday, 30 April 2006 13:39 (twenty years ago)
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 30 April 2006 15:38 (twenty years ago)
― Sundar (sundar), Sunday, 30 April 2006 16:29 (twenty years ago)
― dr lulu (dr lulu), Sunday, 30 April 2006 19:20 (twenty years ago)
TupacLee "Scratch" Perry Has Ryan Adams been mentioned? Al Jourgenson
― js (honestengine), Sunday, 30 April 2006 19:43 (twenty years ago)
― indregard, Sunday, 30 April 2006 22:47 (twenty years ago)
― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Monday, 1 May 2006 03:05 (twenty years ago)
― js (honestengine), Monday, 1 May 2006 08:45 (twenty years ago)
― js (honestengine), Monday, 1 May 2006 08:47 (twenty years ago)
You haven't understood anything of my points, I can see.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 1 May 2006 09:39 (twenty years ago)