does the squid and the whale use reich?

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just saw the movie, and it sounded a lot like _music for 18 musicians_ in all those scenes focusing on the youngest son's masturbation habits. it didn't sound lik the ecm recording though. and i find no info whatsoever elsewhere on the net.

anyone know if this is a recording of the piece? or the soundtrack composer straight ripping? or am i just hearing things and it sounds nothing like the original?

Dan Gr (certain), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 18:40 (eighteen years ago) link

haven't seen the movie yet, but my guess would be they were implying that the youngest son had 'vibraphone balls'

bangelo (bangelo), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link

i remember thinking it was Reich. Maybe it was the Nonesuch recording.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link

masturbation habits?

brings a whole new meaning to "It's Gonna Rain"

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 18:57 (eighteen years ago) link

how did you not make that joke w/"Come Out"?

Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe the kid was into making "clapping music"

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link

or "Music for Four Marimbas, Organ, and Penis"

bangelo (bangelo), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link

wait i guess that would have been more elegant had it simply been "four marimbas and organ"

bangelo (bangelo), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link

i need to rent this, it was shot where i live, and it's apparently about two major interests of mine.

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 19:00 (eighteen years ago) link

masturbation and little kids naked?

a.b. (alanbanana), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link

C-

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link

http://radionicsmagic.com//img/orgone.jpg

autovac (autovac), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link

it's gotta be reich.

what's with the rerecording of great works of minimalism and killing them in production. that reich didn't sound as lush as the ecm. ditto with the rerecording of glass' _enstein on the beach_ and i don't remember being so impressed with bang on a can's _music for airport_ though it wasn't bad.

Dan Gr (certain), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Bang on a Can did a great version of "Four Organs," though.

Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 20:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I have to say, I like the 90's version of Einstein at some points. I like the rawness of the 80s recording, and the farfisas instead of whatever digital thing they used in the 90s version, but their's something "massive" to the 90s version, somehow it has greater impact on me.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought it was the ECM version, but I could be wrong.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 20:41 (eighteen years ago) link

whoah I thought that was Tangerine Dream

from the soundtrack to Risky Business

I think my friend licensed that for them.

Chinavision (A.H.), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 22:35 (eighteen years ago) link

The sax solo at the end of the 90's version of "Einstein" is barf. The vocals are absurdly badass, however.

brndn, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, check the track "Love on a Real Train" by Tangerine Dream...

Brandon Mitchell (A.H.), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link

this movie blows.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/7069/blowhole1rq.jpg

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 00:03 (eighteen years ago) link

whoah I thought that was Tangerine Dream

from the soundtrack to Risky Business

Ha -- once I put on Music for 18 Musicians and my housemate walked in and said it sounded like the music from "Some 80s Tom Cruise movie or something."

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 00:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Dean Wareham and Britta Phillips did the soundtrack so I wouldn't be surprised at all if there was some Reich-lifting.

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 00:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Dubplatestyle: i want to fist steve reich.
kortbein: the minimalist composer, jess?
Dubplatestyle: sure why not?
nitsuht: It's just no one on ILX seems particularly fistable.
Dubplatestyle: i want to phase-fist him.
ethANP2 3: i want to fist philip glass
ethANP2 3: or have some kind of relations with him
kortbein: make sure you get it on tape, he can use it later
Dubplatestyle: that means vibrate my hand real fast inside him.
Dubplatestyle: music for 18 fisticians.
ethANP2 3: do the ryu hadoken on him
nitsuht: Or you could use either hand at varying intervals ...
nitsuht: Until they sync up and you're using both.
ReverieFilm: also, me fisting someone would really hurt them
ethANP2 3: what if you put a theremin in someone's ass
ethANP2 3: and then fisted them
kortbein: their ass would make spooky noises while you fisted them, then
Dubplatestyle: "good vibrations."

and what (ooo), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 00:53 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah totally. it's definitely the music to _risky business_. i hadn't realized that was tangerine dream. also makes sense given the content. still sounds a lot like _music for 18 musicians_.

Dan Gr (certain), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 06:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Reich has stated in interviews that Tangerine Dream should have paid him royalties.

"I should be receiving royalties for the theme to 'Adam Smith's Money World,' and the whole soundtrack to the film 'Risky Business,' supposedly by a group called Tangerine Dream, was an out and out ripoff of 'Music for 18 Musicians.' I should have sued."
"Still, if I had a dime for every trace of 'The Rite of Spring' I've heard in movie soundtracks, I'd be rich," he added. "I don't think imitations will sap the power of the originals. If anything, because of familiarity with the sound, the original will come through more clearly. It will be approachable, but particularly engaging, focused and musically cogent. Ezra Pound once said that a classic is something that remains news and the best work is capable of re-creating the context of its times."

Edward Bax (EdBax), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 11:43 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.reich70.com/

JW (ex machina), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure it wasn't Steve Reich, but it sure the hell sounded like him. I thought it might be the Nonesuch version of "Music for a Large Ensemble".

But after listening closely the next time it showed up on the soundtrack, I'm pretty sure it was a "sound-alike" new thing done for the movie. Maybe Reich doesn't like to allow his stuff to be in movies (unlike Phil Glass who apparently loves the extra cash).

Just my 2 cents... depressing movie, by the way. But it is a good soundtrack... especially ending with Lou Reed's Street Hassle... yeah.

Stephen V Funk (funks), Friday, 19 May 2006 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link

BAHAHAHAHHA
http://www.booseytones.com/index.php?l=EN&a=da&s=Reich

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Friday, 19 May 2006 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link

no terry riley, no credibility

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Saturday, 20 May 2006 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I'M MAKIN MONEY LIKE STEVE REICH AND SHIT
gosta get paid

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Saturday, 20 May 2006 00:02 (eighteen years ago) link


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