Blind Idiot God; Seminal (ugh) Post Rockers (ugh)

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I did a search and found no BIG.

The first time I heard Blind Idiot God's 'shifting sands'( about some stupid 20 years ago)I had never heard anything like it.
It was an extension of Husker's rendition of ''8 miles High'

My attraction for these tunes must lie in what? The unresolved chords? The beautiful lack of answers. Do You know what I mean?

My Bloody Valentine, Aphex Twin, M 83, Cockney Rejects etc

Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Dog (Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountai), Thursday, 8 June 2006 22:23 (twelve years ago) Permalink

best band name ever

latebloomer's potater chip of the proletariat (latebloomer), Thursday, 8 June 2006 22:30 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i can only think of two other bands that i enjoy that did both metal and dub to any great degree, and i like them both better: bad brains and controlled bleeding. but i like blind idiot god's and controlled bleeding's dub better than i like bad brain's reggae and dub.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 8 June 2006 22:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink

that Cyclotron album is amazing, that's the only one I heard. swirly heavy metal dub fer sure.

sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 8 June 2006 22:41 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"Seminal" == filled with semen. HTH.

Shoes say, yeah, no hands clap your good bra. (goodbra), Friday, 9 June 2006 03:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I always thought of these guys as like the U.S. hardcore version of Dif Juz. I would like to hear them again, it's been a very long time.

Has-been Hash Brown (Bimble...), Friday, 9 June 2006 04:02 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Instro rock stuff = astonishing. Dub stuff = hmm, in retrospect. BIG were my favourite band that no-one else had heard of for years, back in the "it's on SST? I'll try it!" days. Dunno why Don Caballero et al got all the plaudits when these guys were doing it better several years earlier but there ya go. Saw them live once at an unpromoted gig in London, it felt like being trapped underwater, I could barely breathe by the end. Superb! And they looked like a bunch of music students too. Didn't guitarist Andy Hawkins end up playing with Laswell? Bit of an artistic comedown if he did.

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Friday, 9 June 2006 06:48 (twelve years ago) Permalink

He did a solo album Laswell produced, billed as Azonic. It's out of print but well worth finding - four long-ass ultra-heavy guitar solos with samples of Apocalypse Now dialogue and Tibetan monk drones used as bridging devices.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 9 June 2006 10:57 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I wrote a looooong SST roundup for the Voice in 1987 or so, included tons of albums on the label, and bizarrely my three favorites at the time were by Dinosaur (their second and best album -- their best song, "Repulsion," was from their FIRST album by the way), Screaming Trees (*Even if and Especially When* or whatever it was called), and Blind Idiot God (their self-titled debut). I've barely listened to them since, though I did buy a used copy of *Cyclotron* a few years ago, and liked enough to file it in storage instead of getting rid of it. As metal-dub goes, um, not as good as "Time Has Come Today" by the Chambers Brothers, or the metal-dub songs on certain Killing Joke or Celtic Frost albums, or "Whole Lotta Love," or lots of other things, probably including Ruts DC. Possibly better than Fugazi, though. Also, way better than whatever band it was I heard last year that had one of the BIG singing in it now or something like that.

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 9 June 2006 11:08 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, Khanate (does the ex B.I.G. guy do those idiotic witch shrieking noises in that band, or does somebody else? Whatever. I also don't like Khanate as much as the old Old album I have somewhere, which may or may not include two future Khanate members.)

(And Blind Idiot God were also more interesting than Dub Trio, too.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 9 June 2006 11:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Tim from BIG plays the drums in Khanate, except they call them 'hammers' like the jokers they are. Alan from OLD does the silly vocals

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 9 June 2006 11:25 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Blind Idiot God made some great LOUD records. They played a show a couple months ago in Boston, opening for Sunn O))). Man, I really should've gone.

Searched for years for a copy of Undertow for a friend, that thing was damned hard to find. So if you happen across a BIG record, snap it up!

Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 9 June 2006 13:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

We are all 'Shifting Sands 'and it's pointless

Fer Ark, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

I keep hoping a new record will appear, but nothing yet.

Matt #2, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

Searched for years for a copy of Undertow for a friend, that thing was damned hard to find. So if you happen across a BIG record, snap it up!

Found Undertow LP for five quid a few months back, didn't get into it as much as I hoped I would

DJ Mencap, Thursday, 31 July 2008 22:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

nine years pass...

spent a while in the late 80s fighting what felt like a lone doomed battle trying to get ppl in the UK to hear how great BIG were

A: i think the sound at their liveshows could be very hit-and-miss and venue- and mixdesk-dependent
B: andy hawkins was a lovely person but not a particularly helpful interview (or at least i found no way to draw him out that turned into a good writing abt the band)

UNDERTOW and BEFORE AFTER EVER are on spotify, but not CYCLOTRON or the SST debut (which i think probably remains my favourite)

mark s, Sunday, 4 February 2018 14:34 (eleven months ago) Permalink

kogan points me to youtube:

mark s, Sunday, 4 February 2018 15:06 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I believe plans are in the works to remaster and reissue the debut and Cyclotron. There's supposedly another new album in the works, too.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 4 February 2018 15:13 (eleven months ago) Permalink

you posted on a thread calling a band 'seminal' , mark :)

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Sunday, 4 February 2018 15:13 (eleven months ago) Permalink

yes the name of this thread is bad not good but what can you do

mark s, Sunday, 4 February 2018 15:18 (eleven months ago) Permalink

The first BIG is awesome, as is Before Ever After. I also really like the Azonic album from this year, Hawkins' ambient-"orchestral doom" side project (also featuring the current BIG drummer)

the man from P.O.R.L.O.C.K. (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 4 February 2018 17:01 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I love the first Azonic album; if I was gonna pick 10 albums that totally sum up my aesthetic, it would be in there. The the new one is good, but different.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 4 February 2018 17:15 (eleven months ago) Permalink

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