thom yorke debuts at #2 in the US billboard charts

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wow. XL is rolling in it

― kevin barking (arghargh), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

I blame hstencil.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Target has it on sale for $10.

― Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

from what i hear, xl's not making much money on this at all.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

Interesting- how so? Yorkie got a decent deal or its being sold at a discounted rate to retailers in the US or what?

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

how soon before it drops out of top 200? 7 weeks??

― timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

haters in refusing to give props non-shocker

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

my understanding is that yorke 'gave' the record to xl in exchange for a sweetheart financial deal, a strong level of marketing control, etc etc. i think the release is more a prestige thing for them.

xpost

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

blah blah blah thom yorke radiohead blah blah

― trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

i bet they aren't making too much cash b/c of the massive promotional campaign, surely those posters every 2 feet around NYC dont' come cheap.

― kevin barking (arghargh), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

anyway, fuck this guy

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Thomas Tallis Takes Timmy Tannin To Task

― cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

haha
comment wasn't motivated by hate, just that i doubt it will have any staying power or appeal beyond the radioheads. this big debut/rapid falloff thing has been going on for quite a while, esp. for the rockers

― timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I would think he was correct as its the old big estalished fanbase, who go out and buy week one, then maybe a few in the next few weeks, then nada--- cos this kind of thing isn't really going to attract those who aren't already interested in great numbers is it? Or have XL been promoting it like beasts? It still doesn't sound like a very loveable thing, its soggy and bitter (which is fine) but I can't see it preaching well to the unconverted.

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

'democrats in refusing to vote for bush non-shocker'

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

MUSICIAN WITH LARGE FANBASE STRETCHING BACK OVER TEN YEARS SELLS RECORDS: STORY AT TEN.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

haha yeah, Radiohead's a name-brand, but this is still a dour side project. I'm a bit impressed by that debut. Is it getting much airplay?

― cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

"large fanbase"

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

To be fair, Radiohead are not exactly unknown.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Their last three albums have gone #1, #2, and #3 in the States, I dunno, maybe that was through VIRAL MARKETING rather than people actually buying them.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

How many records have debuted in the Billboard Top Ten & dropped out one or two weeks later?

Answer: 42.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

Thom Yorke derided as "dour" on internet, mind explodes...

― Alicia Silverfuck (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

I'm waiting for Yorke to put out a cd with the cast of "High School Musical" and the group Rascal Flatts....

From the Los Angeles Times-By Richard Cromelin, Times Staff Writer
July 16, 2006
:

WHEN all is said and done, a musical is above all about the music.

That fairly obvious fact has been somewhat overlooked in the media's many attempts to explain why "High School Musical," a soundtrack to a Disney Channel TV movie full of unknown actors singing unstylish and unfamiliar songs, has been crowned the nation's biggest-selling album for the first six months of the year.

The CD, on Walt Disney Records, sold 2.6 million copies in that period, a whopping 700,000 more than the runner-up, Rascal Flatts' "Me and My Gang," according to midyear figures released this month by Nielsen SoundScan..."

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

Um, too much of The Eraser wallows in Thom's stock-in-trade gloom w/o much in the way of musical dynamics. That's why Radiohead is so much more palatable. But Harrowdown Hill is pretty bracing.

― cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

the new dashboard confessional album (on vagrant) debuted at #2 a few weeks ago

― a.b. (alanbanana), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

apparently the eraser sold about 90,000 copies, which sounds about right compared to kid a's 250,000 or so.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

Radiohead has actually sold more copies per week with each post-Kid A album, even though the albums aren't as charting as high (but with three consecutive Top Three albums this is niggling).

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

lol 90,000 got #2???

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

THE INTERNETS CHANGED EVERYTHING.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, the 'surprise' isn't really so much that thom yorke got to #2, it's that 90k was enough to get him there. even kid a's win came in what was considered an easy week.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

no shit ned! apparently rise against were in the top 10 last week (when 'johnny cash farts pt. viii' topped the charts). music's at the point where it's like hockey in that yeah, once it was one of the big boys but not anymore. i bet if you add up total viewers for the grey's anatomy rerun last week it tops the total number of sales in the billboard top ten this week.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

I heard the recent Terry Gross interview with him, and he was much more likable and engaging than I expected. Everything I've heard of the album stinks though.

― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

i bet if you add up total viewers for the grey's anatomy rerun last week it tops the total number of sales in the billboard top ten this week.

I'm perfectly fine with that!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

Oh stop it already with this Thom Bjorke thing. The album ain't that great.

― elgolfo (elgolfo), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

blount's right that music is a very small fish where once it was a big 'un

still, there's a weird tendency, maybe it's not weird I dunno, to dismiss/deride the success of shit one doesn't like while accepting/proclaiming the sucess of shit one does like...it's like "yup, shocker, stuff goes up the charts and then goes down, guess what, a #2 chart debut is signifigant whether it suits your taste or not"

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

also James not to put too fine a point on it but if I sold 90,000 records even once I'd be able to buy you a damn house just for laffs (which I would immediately do btw, join my street team already) so ha-ha'ing 90k in sales is kinda haterific

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,75540,00.html#2

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 23:39 (nineteen years ago)

cos this kind of thing isn't really going to attract those who aren't already interested in great numbers is it?

I dunno about this - I was absolutely positive that I wasn't going to buy this until (1) my friends wouldn't shut up about the leaked version and (2) I heard a few songs in a drunken haze one night. I dunno how long it'll be in the charts or where it'll stick around, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least for The Eraser to emerge as The "Experimental" Radiohead Album For People Passionately Disinterested In Radiohead's "Experimental" Albums.

― James.Cobo (jamescobo), Thursday, 20 July 2006 00:25 (nineteen years ago)

thomas it's hardly all haterade! some of it is just people going "of course he sold a lot -- he's in radiohead"

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 20 July 2006 00:46 (nineteen years ago)

yeah that's not what I'm responding to - it's JB scarequoting "large fanbase" frexample

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 20 July 2006 01:13 (nineteen years ago)

Thomas I'm a bit surprised yr supporting a dude whose work creates/reinforces such horrible levels of selfloathing and depression amongst (a fair number of) his listeners, tbh

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 20 July 2006 01:16 (nineteen years ago)

NEGATIVE SOCIAL ATTITUDES, at least. A good game of grabass never hurt anyone.

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 20 July 2006 01:18 (nineteen years ago)

Now I'm imagining Thom Yorke scoring a gay porn movie.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 July 2006 01:22 (nineteen years ago)

"In (Out)"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 July 2006 01:22 (nineteen years ago)

No, i need to apologize for my incendiary statement above implying that Thom Yorke might not have a Dark Side Of The Moon-like ride on the charts. I really woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. I really love that magnificent droop-eyed bastard.

― timmy tannin (pompous), Thursday, 20 July 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

It's got to be click fraud.

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 20 July 2006 01:35 (nineteen years ago)

So cynical!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 July 2006 01:36 (nineteen years ago)

I couldn't give a rat's about Thom Yorke's solo album one way or the other btw, haven't heard it & probably won't, I'm just saying "wtf" to the weird bloggy "oh no well that doesn't really count as sales/popularity" vibe

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 20 July 2006 01:40 (nineteen years ago)

you people are funny.

music's at the point where it's like hockey in that yeah, once it was one of the big boys but not anymore.

blount, if i'm not mistaken, the nhl set an attendence record this season, so maybe this is like you saying cat power doesn't sell any records any more like "you are free" even tho she'll top that record's numbers in another month or so.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 July 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

you're right, being nearly as big as arena football and having the stanley cup barely get beat in the ratings by pac-10 womens softball clearly = shades of 'miracle on ice' fever sweeping america again! more people were bought tickets to 'an inconvenient truth' last week than bought the #2 album in the country - big fish in small pond /= actual big fish. you guys might be right though - i'm sure if the #2 tv show only pulled 90,000 viewers or the #2 movie only sold 90,000 tickets the networks and the studios would be ecstatic!

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 20 July 2006 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

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no i missed it, just like i'm gonna miss that shitty-ass movie. wtf was michael mann thinking? colin farrell is only good if there's a buck nekkid 15 year-old inuit girl upstaging him, not some black dude pretending he's cuban or whatever.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 July 2006 03:50 (nineteen years ago)

look, i dunno what jamie fox has to do with it, but b.a. baracus doesn't have to do anything he don't wanna do.

― the eunuchs, Cassim and Mustafa, who guarded Abdur Ali's harem (orion), Thursday, 20 July 2006 03:51 (nineteen years ago)

jamie fox:b.a. baracus::thom york:scott walker?????

― the eunuchs, Cassim and Mustafa, who guarded Abdur Ali's harem (orion), Thursday, 20 July 2006 03:52 (nineteen years ago)

enough of this jibber-jabber, because ian only is part-time he missed out on "champagne and posh snacks." sorry bro! i did snag a bottle of veuve that you're welcome to down at my house, anytime!

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 July 2006 03:52 (nineteen years ago)

POSH SPICE > POSH SNACKS

― the eunuchs, Cassim and Mustafa, who guarded Abdur Ali's harem (orion), Thursday, 20 July 2006 03:53 (nineteen years ago)

well duh

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 July 2006 03:54 (nineteen years ago)

rosario dawson ain't inuit dude!

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 20 July 2006 03:54 (nineteen years ago)

so you're gonna see clerks 2 as well? you're a regular cap'n save-a-rosari-ho.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 July 2006 03:55 (nineteen years ago)

i'd like to fuck a rosari-hole.

but no, there's not a chance in hell i'll see clerks 2.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 20 July 2006 03:57 (nineteen years ago)

ok good i was worried there for a second. as for mv, wait for cable.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 July 2006 03:58 (nineteen years ago)

that reminds me - do you or ian know if that first kustomized album is still in print?

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 20 July 2006 04:04 (nineteen years ago)

it's not

― the eunuchs, Cassim and Mustafa, who guarded Abdur Ali's harem (orion), Thursday, 20 July 2006 04:29 (nineteen years ago)

Weekly attendance of movie theaters in the immediate post WWII period = 90-100 million
today = somewhere in the 20-25 million range

OH NOES, Linda Darnell>>>>Jessica Alba!

― timmy tannin (pompous), Thursday, 20 July 2006 05:02 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha no kustomized albs are in print. tho i met one of their former members (not prescott) last friday!

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 July 2006 05:06 (nineteen years ago)

a dude whose work creates/reinforces such horrible levels of selfloathing and depression amongst (a fair number of) his listeners

Even with the qualifier in brackets, I've never found this to be the case. I am inclined to believe that Thom Yorke's music doesn't really reflect his political stance - publicly he's quite involved, but precious little of what he's put down on disc would inspire much in the way of activism, and that is a criticism. I'd be more concerned that years of listening to Radiohead would have a deadening effect on a person's feeling, but I'd be projecting. I will say that in over ten years of Radiohead fandom I've never met a single person who was miserable because they listened to Radiohead.

― LC (Damian), Thursday, 20 July 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

feeling = feelings

― LC (Damian), Thursday, 20 July 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

Whoa whoa whoa...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 July 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

THOM IS GOD AND YOU ARE ALL WRONG

I just felt the need to get that off my chest.

― Pandas At War (pandas at war), Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

Oh come on, Pandas, the whole ILM Hating On Thom thing makes me feel perfectly rationalised in my whole "I am a RH fan, and everyone haaaates me, no one understands my pain like THom, and no one understands Thom like me, aaaaaahhhhhh!" thing.

― Kaet (kate), Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

Blount's theory sort of makes sense but surely it'd be Eminem or 50 or whoever it is that occupies that sold millions of albums over the past few years in the 'Elvis' position right now.

(Apologies if this point's been made upthread, I've only kind of skimmed)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, Pandas! ;P

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 20 July 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

I don't even hate Radiohead either. I think I might like some of their songs if it weren't for Thom Yorke.

That doesn't make any sense. "I think I might like some of the Beatles' songs if it weren't for John Lennon and Paul McCartney."

― Nigel (Nigel), Thursday, 20 July 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

"large fanbase"
"large fanbase"
"large fanbase"
"large fanbase"
"large fanbase"

A note: The Beatles and Radiohead are consistently the #1 and #2 of Facebook 'Favorite' musics, ALL OVER THE US.

Blount, your argument makes little to no sense. Music and movies are the most culturally relevant and present mediums at the moment.

― trees (treesessplode), Thursday, 20 July 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

Uh, yeah.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 July 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

I've dled a few tracks of this and found them barely listenable - and I like Kid A.

― chap who would dare to start Raaatpackin (chap), Thursday, 20 July 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

It's best assessed by listening to the whole thing really... definitely a (limited) grower.

after repeat listens it still feels like it only has a few genuinely good tracks on though unfortunately. It's nice but I really find the lyrics (esp. in the first half) awfully obvious. I agree with his sentiments too! But I get very little out of how he's putting them across this time for the most part.

― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 20 July 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

Bit of a curates egg really, but I do empathise that he'd also be a bit fucked & in a tricky position if this WAS of comparable weight to a Radiohead record.

― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 20 July 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

I really find the lyrics (esp. in the first half) awfully obvious

That "you're playing a part" line in "Analyse" especially. A gift for any critic right there. Nice song, though.

― LC (Damian), Thursday, 20 July 2006 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

A note: The Beatles and Radiohead are consistently the #1 and #2 of Facebook 'Favorite' musics, ALL OVER THE US.

Um, no.

1. Jack Johnson
2. Coldplay
3. DMB
4. The Beatles
5. Green Day
6. Led Zeppelin
7. The Killers
8. Fall Out Boy
9. Red Hot Chili Peppers
10. Sublime

― starke (starke), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

haha jack johnson's biggest hit album? the soundtrack to the curious george movie. TALK ABOUT YR CULTURAL GIANTS.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

I've dled a few tracks of this and found them barely listenable - and I like Kid A.

"dling a few tracks" means you don't really have shit to say about an album, just for future reference

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

haha jack johnson's biggest hit album? the soundtrack to the curious george movie. TALK ABOUT YR CULTURAL GIANTS.

"In Between Dreams" has shifted over 2 million in the US alone (probably bust that up to 5 million worldwide). The Curious George OST hasn't even done 3/4 of a mill yet.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

Starke, I guess that I was being a liberal artist there. Liberal arts schools that have 4,000 or fewer students? It's definitely the Beatles and Radiohead.

Pardon me while I vomit.

― trees (treesessplode), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

my friends wouldn't shut up about the leaked version

Some over-enthusiastic DJ's on my not-to-be-named college station were playing this at least a month before street date. To my great amusement, Matador/Beggar's has spy programs that were watching for the songs on our internet stream. They sent us a cease-and-desist order (detailing specific times and songs played), management threw a fit, and all the hipper-than-thou leak-mongers had to cool their jets until last week. Ha!

― sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

psssh dom don't bother blount with silly things like soundscan figures! ha.

that was actually xl, probably terms of the contract with thom i'd guess. not usual practice.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 July 2006 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

thanks for the clarification, the GM told us it was Matador/Beggar's.

― sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 20 July 2006 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

doesn't really matter as xl is part of beggars, but yeah.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 July 2006 23:58 (nineteen years ago)

Mart1n M1lls, overlord.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 July 2006 23:59 (nineteen years ago)

blount I hesitate to ask but where were you pulling your Curious George OST sales projections from?

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Friday, 21 July 2006 00:04 (nineteen years ago)

it was Johnson's first #1 album, maybe he read too much into chart placement.

― Zwan (miccio), Friday, 21 July 2006 00:16 (nineteen years ago)

and either way, Blount's point about the status of pop stars in America (2 mil?! Osh kosh b'gosh!) is pretty OTM

― Zwan (miccio), Friday, 21 July 2006 00:17 (nineteen years ago)

for chrissake, Blind Melon somehow sold 4. Candlebox too.

― Zwan (miccio), Friday, 21 July 2006 00:21 (nineteen years ago)

haha I think a lot of those were sold to guys who took the cds right back to the shipping warehouse if you follow me

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Friday, 21 July 2006 00:30 (nineteen years ago)

haha and this wasn't? (sorry stence)

― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 21 July 2006 00:44 (nineteen years ago)

not yet anyways.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 21 July 2006 00:48 (nineteen years ago)

Don't worry, Mr. Blount, it must never happen with country or hip-hop releases that way.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 July 2006 00:56 (nineteen years ago)

obv. ned you missed my threat of a coolio anecdote upthread.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 21 July 2006 06:13 (nineteen years ago)

Did anyone read the quote Yorke made in Mojo about Miracle Legion's Mark Mulcahy having a huge influence on him? I'll never listen to the theme song of The Adventures of Pete and Pete the same way again.

― Cunga (Cunga), Saturday, 22 July 2006 03:47 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, I have a cassingle of that, bought with breakfast cereal boxtops or something.

"Aayayaya, hey Sandy!"

― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Saturday, 22 July 2006 04:05 (nineteen years ago)

haha, I remember WANTING that cassingle but never getting it together and mailing in the boxtop, although I finally bought that song off iTunes a few months ago.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Saturday, 22 July 2006 04:28 (nineteen years ago)

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