john cale as a producer: s & d/c or d

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i searched the archives and came up with nothing on cale specifically as a producer, but it seems impossible this hasnt been done yet.

for reference here's a list of his production work i random-googled, seems pretty much like he took whatever work he was offered but maybe there's some logic at work here i cannot see. I don't thinki i've heard enough of these records to know how i feel about him as a producer... i do know the ones i've listened to a lot, like stooges and horses, i like a lot.

here's that list i was talkign about:

Art Bergmann Crawl With Me 1988
Chunki, Novi and Ernie Chunki, Novi and Ernie 1974
Element of Crime Try to be Mensch 1987
Alejandro Escovedo The Boxing Mirror 2006
Louise Feron Amour Fou 1991
Garageland Feel alright 1997
Goya Dress Glorious 1996
Goya Dress Rooms 1996
Happy Mondays Squirrel And G-man Twenty Four Hour Party People Plastic Face Carnt Smile (White Out) 1987
Happy Mondays Loads (& Loads More) 1995
Jesus Lizard Jesus Lizard 1998
David Kubinec Some Things Never Change 1978
Larry and Tommy Yo-Yo 1978
Lio Popmodel 1986
Made For TV So Afraid of the Russians/Unknown Soldier 1983
Maids of Gravity The First Second 1996
Marie et Les Garçons Attitudes/Re-Bop 1978
Mediæval Baebes Undrentide 2000
Menace I Need Nothing (single) 1977
Model Citizens Shift the Blame (ep) 1979
Modern Guy Une Nouvelle Vie 1980
Modern Lovers Modern Lovers 1973
Necessaries You Can Borrow My Car / Runaway Child (single) 1979
Nico Desertshore 1970
Nico The End 1974
Nico Camera Obscura 1985
Les Nouvelles Polyphonies Corses In Paradisu 1996
Los Ronaldos Sabor Salado 1992
Sham 69 I Don't Wanna / Red London / Ulster (single) 1977
Silverhead Sixteen And Savaged 1973
Siouxsie & The Banshees The Rapture 1994
Patti Smith Group Horses 1975
Snatch Shopping For Clothes/Joey/Red Army 1980
Squeeze Packet of Three (EP) 1977
Squeeze Squeeze 1978
Squeeze Wrong Way (single) 1979
Alan Stivell I Douar 1998
Stooges Stooges 1969
Harry Toledo & The Rockets Harry Toledo & The Rockets 1978
Various Artists Sixteen Candles 1984
Various Artists Caged/Uncaged 1993
Ventilator desert station frequency 1999
Big Vern Lullabies for Lager Louts 1989
Jennifer Warnes Jennifer 1972

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Saturday, 23 September 2006 02:01 (nineteen years ago)

weird list.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Saturday, 23 September 2006 02:03 (nineteen years ago)

I love the sound of that first Stooges album and the Modern Lovers sessions he did.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 23 September 2006 02:19 (nineteen years ago)

what's the jennifer warnes album like?

timmy tannin (pompous), Saturday, 23 September 2006 02:23 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't know he produced that Silverhead album. Was always curious to hear that.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 23 September 2006 02:25 (nineteen years ago)

Snatch Shopping For Clothes/Joey/Red Army 1980

I always assumed Adrian Sherwood produced this. He produced Judy Nylon's Pal Judy record which came out sometime after and sounds similar, or at least is dubbed out to a greater degree.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 23 September 2006 03:32 (nineteen years ago)

what's the jennifer warnes album like?

She wasn't yet Jennifer Warnes, she was still Jennifer Warren, late of the Smothers Brothers TV show and the LA folkie circuit. She'd done two albums for Parrot by this time, IIRC, as just "Jennifer", and Cale's production in 1972 was the third (and last) Jennifer LP. I don't think any of them have been released on CD, except for some of the Parrot material on some obscure Warnes compilations.

I'd characterize what little I've heard (via MP3 blogs and WFMU) as "art-pop", and I think they're all covers of contemporary rock/pop songs — it may not be uniformly great, but it seems uniformly interesting, and not the sort of stuff you'd expect if you know her by her AOR/Top-40 successes (or even the Leonard Cohen stuff). Cale may have been the perfect producer for her.

Here's a review of Jennifer (the Cale one), from the Bomp List.

mark 0 (mark 0), Saturday, 23 September 2006 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

...which is actually taken from AMG, so go to AMG's version, if you like. I'm not firing on all cylinders yet — haven't had my coffee.

mark 0 (mark 0), Saturday, 23 September 2006 10:13 (nineteen years ago)

thanks, definitely gonna seek this out.

timmy tannin (pompous), Saturday, 23 September 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

I have nothing to say on the general question, but I can pass on the anecdote about when he produced the Happy Mondays' first album. Someone told Bez that Cale was the guy who played the organ on Sale Of The Century, so he kept asking him what working with Nicholas Parsons had been like.

DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 24 September 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)


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