Why has this colossally important and great band gone out of print for so long?
― chris s (ertayone), Sunday, 24 September 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)
Actually, now that I think about it, the rights might have gone over to Def Jam/American when those ~1990 reissues came out. This could be the source of the problem.
― sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Sunday, 24 September 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)
― Shoes say, yeah, no hands clap your good bra. (goodbra), Sunday, 24 September 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)
― señor citizen (eman), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)
― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)
― Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)
― StanM (StanM), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)
― señor citizen (eman), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)
no. there was the Blow'n Chunks cd which I think had tracks off both?
― señor citizen (eman), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)
― señor citizen (eman), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)
― Dare Of The Hog (Bimble...), Sunday, 24 September 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)
― spastic heritage (spastic heritage), Sunday, 24 September 2006 22:34 (nineteen years ago)
― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Sunday, 24 September 2006 22:43 (nineteen years ago)
― señor citizen (eman), Sunday, 24 September 2006 23:48 (nineteen years ago)
Public Flipper rules, my favorite of theirs.
― sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Sunday, 24 September 2006 23:55 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.discogs.com/release/582767
― señor citizen (eman), Monday, 25 September 2006 00:00 (nineteen years ago)
― sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Monday, 25 September 2006 00:04 (nineteen years ago)
― sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Monday, 25 September 2006 00:07 (nineteen years ago)
But the relevant issue for this thread: the merch table. They had T-shirts, CD and LP copies of Blow'n Chunks (which I assume is their only album currently in print), and DVDs of the Emerald Cities movie. Also around the time of that show, Bruce had a myspace profile which mentioned an address where one could mailorder the Emerald Cities DVD. He's since removed the profile.
― cheshycat (cheshycat), Monday, 25 September 2006 00:39 (nineteen years ago)
― cheshycat (cheshycat), Monday, 25 September 2006 00:49 (nineteen years ago)
― chad (chad), Monday, 25 September 2006 04:46 (nineteen years ago)
― DUMBOCLAAT (eman), Monday, 25 September 2006 04:48 (nineteen years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 25 September 2006 06:07 (nineteen years ago)
Bruce always seemed a bit anti-social to me. Will, on the other hand... completely loveable. Neither Will nor Bruce could play the bass worth a damn (so far as I could tell), Will couldn't even tune the damn thing.
They will never be able to reproduce the chaos of a "real" SF Flipper show, with a constant barrage of empty beers cans and abuse flying at the stage and all the, very slow, stage diving. Then the careful flinging of all the cans BACK INTO THE AUDIENCE between songs so they could do it all over again. 20+ minutes of "I Am The Wheel" complete with the circular arm motion. Then Bruce, Will, and Ted sitting on the sideline drinking beer and looking bemused while Steve drove 3 random kids from the audience through end of the set. Priceless.
Weird irony about Rick Rubin ending up with the Flipper albums...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/Hose.jpg
Any clue why Steve never put out the A3I LP? I got tests on it TWICE, but I believe it never came out...
― factcheckr (factcheckr), Monday, 25 September 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)
― Soukesian (Soukesian), Monday, 25 September 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)
― mango selassie (teenagequiet), Monday, 25 September 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)
― Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Monday, 25 September 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)
The Live 'official' 83 VIDEO is something every rounded family household should have. This was released by Dog Patch records in '98.
Thanks to Chad for the link to the WFMU show. Any Flipper fan worth her pilchard's should seek out Pissed Jeans.
― Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Dog (Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountai), Monday, 25 September 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)
Was the project you refer to Any Three Initials - not a hardcore parody per chance?
― Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Dog (Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountai), Monday, 25 September 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)
― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Monday, 25 September 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)
:-O
― DUMBOCLAAT (eman), Monday, 25 September 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukRlHzfuVSc
― cheshy f cat (cheshycat), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)
― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 02:30 (nineteen years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)
― Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)
― Lee is Free (Lee is Free), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)
Yes A3I = Any Three Initials...
To be honest we had a Flipper tribute band about 15 years ago with the idea that we'd only have to play half a set but no one in Chicago had the balls to come up on stage.
We even did a lengthy rendition of Brainwash.
For indie-industry-distribution wonks it included the dueling guitars of Patrick (Carrot Top) AND Chris (Southern).
― factcheckr (factcheckr), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)
― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)
― Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)
We were almost as good of a room clearer as the real thing...
Listening to those live tracks right now.
― factcheckr (factcheckr), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 23:37 (nineteen years ago)
GUESS!
― factcheckr (factcheckr), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 23:38 (nineteen years ago)
― factcheckr (factcheckr), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 00:01 (nineteen years ago)
― DUMBOCLAAT (eman), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 00:58 (nineteen years ago)
― Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FlipperSex Bomb Baby [re-issue] (PRE-ORDER: SALEABLE NOVEMBER 18TH)PS, US Another essential release from San Francisco legends FLIPPER. Originally released in 1987, 'Sex Bomb Baby' is actually a collection of material dated no later than 1982, comprised of singles, b-sides, & compilation trks. The single version of "Sex Bomb" is an all out clasic - a frenetic, yelping punk answer to "Louie, Louie" & the rest is no slouch either. Outrageous, harsh, sludge-punk from SF's finest. Back in print on CD for the 1st time in yrs!WaterCD$14.25
FlipperGone Fishin' [re-issue] (PRE-ORDER: SALEABLE NOVEMBER 18TH)PS, US Their 2nd & final studio album for the original lineup of San Francisco's legends FLIPPER. This was released in 1984 & took the "punk" tag to extremes, as no other band in the world was playing punk this slow, sludgy, dark & disturbed. Feat. the haunting "Survivors of the Plague" & the public incrimination of "Sacrifice," 'Gone Fishin' is an art-punk classic that holds up alongside their more heralded debut.WaterCD$14.25
FlipperPublic Flipper Limited Live 1980-1985 [re-issue] (PRE-ORDER: SALEABLE NOVEMBER 18TH)PS, US 2CD collection that was originally released in 1986 as a 2LP of live material culled from 1980-85. The sound quality & playing are both a grimy, distorted mess, which suits the band just fine. Always alternating between endearing & abrasive FLIPPER left no room for the middle ground of "like." The album title is a shot at John Lydon & his alleged plagiarism of Flipper's artwork for his own PIL & it proves that the band was never opposed to alienating its audience, no matter how sanctified. Harsh, art-rock classics from one of San Francisco's most important post-hippy era bands.WaterDCD$17.50
FlipperAlbum - Generic Flipper [re-issue] (PRE-ORDER: SALEABLE NOVEMBER 18TH)PS, US 1st classic record from the legendary San Francisco act, originally released in 1982. Post-hardcore? Post-punk? Art-rock? Despite being a part of SF's punk scene FLIPPER were really only punk in spirit, eschewing conventions & making no concessions. Sludgy, distorted, atonal, noise rock jams that sound as urgent & heavy as they must have 25 yrs ago. A huge influence on bands to come later like Nirvana & The Melvins.WaterCD$14.25
― I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 6 November 2008 10:52 (seventeen years ago)
I already have Generic & Sex Bomb Baby on CD but never been able to find Gone Fishin' anywhere.
I've still got Gone Fishin' on vinyl (I bought it in '87 following S*m*n R*yn*lds rave reviw in MM!) but it would be great to upgrade it to CD status!
― The answer is NOT Volkswagen (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 6 November 2008 10:56 (seventeen years ago)
Out here on the 27th according to HMV.
― The answer is NOT Volkswagen (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 6 November 2008 11:06 (seventeen years ago)
THANK YOU WATER
― like burning a swan (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 6 November 2008 11:33 (seventeen years ago)
the PIL rip-off one became ridiculously expensive on ebay right after i realized i needed it.
― like burning a swan (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 6 November 2008 11:34 (seventeen years ago)
Upgrade? It's Flipper! All fetishistic format shit aside...
― Niles Caulder, Thursday, 6 November 2008 14:08 (seventeen years ago)
if this were anyone but water i'd call bullshit. this is great news
― eman, Thursday, 6 November 2008 14:41 (seventeen years ago)
Excited to have Gone Fishin' on CD. Talk about the greatest album never released on CD (until now)
Glad to see some of those Infinite Zero issues getting reissued again i.e. Sex Bomb Baby comp.
― HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 6 November 2008 17:54 (seventeen years ago)
great news.
― sleeve, Thursday, 6 November 2008 19:03 (seventeen years ago)
So is Subterranean reissuing these? Was the whole catalog tied up with American Records all this time? Also, never heard Grafishy, but Somewhere was a good single.
― bendy, Thursday, 6 November 2008 19:51 (seventeen years ago)
Water is doing them. Water also did two of the Charles Wright/Watts 103rd St. Rhythm Band reissues, and the Pearls Before Swine reissues.
― HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 6 November 2008 20:10 (seventeen years ago)
Just in time for Christmas!Exciting stuff
― Ivan, Thursday, 6 November 2008 20:18 (seventeen years ago)
water did all the cluster and cluster/eno reissues. good label
― eman, Thursday, 6 November 2008 21:10 (seventeen years ago)
Gone Fishin' was their masterpiece and my introduction back in 84/85?
I remember a really grimy black and white photo of them in Sounds or Melody Maker. It looked like the photographer had smeared vaseline on the lens to soften up FLIPPER. HA HA HA!!!
― Fer Ark, Thursday, 6 November 2008 21:30 (seventeen years ago)
so can anybody tell me where the song "There's A Lot You Don't Know" comes from? I read a reference to it once but Google only brings up a ten-year-old WFMU playlist.
― sleeve, Friday, 7 November 2008 17:52 (seventeen years ago)
― eman, Friday, 7 November 2008 18:20 (seventeen years ago)
I just got my Flipper Gone Fishin' and Public Flipper Limited CD reissues.
I will get back to you, but wow, to FINALLY hold CD versions of these in my hands at long last!
― "Sustainability Sucks" T's Ahoy For Urban Outfitters Bootches (Mackro Mackro), Sunday, 21 December 2008 00:05 (seventeen years ago)
i saw them today, but had other priorities. they'll be gone by the time i get back. then it'll be another ten years before they get repressed.
― Manclusion (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 21 December 2008 09:29 (seventeen years ago)
are there bonus tracks or other things on these?
― Hinklepicker, Sunday, 21 December 2008 09:36 (seventeen years ago)
no, water never does bonus tracks AFAIK
― Manclusion (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 21 December 2008 09:44 (seventeen years ago)
I was able to pick up an old used cd copy of Generic a little while back for a reasonable $ because these were on the horizon, so yay.
― that karate douche (╓abies), Sunday, 21 December 2008 10:21 (seventeen years ago)
I interviewed Bruce this week; transcript at my blog. The new albums, one studio one live, both recorded with Krist Novoselic on bass, are great.
― unperson, Sunday, 28 June 2009 20:06 (sixteen years ago)
― sleeve, Friday, 7 November 2008 17:52 (7 months ago)
― sleeve, Sunday, 28 June 2009 20:35 (sixteen years ago)
I bought a "gone fishin'" vinyl reissue a few weeks ago from Amaz.on.ca of all places.It's on Four Men With Beards, they did a great job. 180 gram and good packaging, very cool.
― chad, Monday, 29 June 2009 15:38 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah, but can you order a spare cover from them so you can cut out the van and bandmember figures, the way you could from Subterranean?
― unperson, Monday, 29 June 2009 15:50 (sixteen years ago)
I doubt it, but my 5 year old daughter wanted to cut out the Flipper "playset" as soon as she saw that cover. She can't understand why I won't let her take scissors to it. I had to hide it for while.
― chad, Monday, 29 June 2009 16:08 (sixteen years ago)
haha aw you should buy a second one for her to play with
― am0n, Monday, 29 June 2009 16:26 (sixteen years ago)
The new albums, one studio one live, both recorded with Krist Novoselic on bass, are great.
― unperson, Sunday, June 28, 2009 4:06 PM
no they're not.
― ( ´_ゝ˙) (Dr. Phil), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 04:57 (sixteen years ago)
unperson, I was at that Auckland show Bruce talked about on your blog. They were GREAT, my girlfriend and I'd gone with pretty low expectations and left so so happy.
― Blurks (CharlieS), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 08:03 (sixteen years ago)
I had for some reason absorbed some received wisdom that American Grafishy is a terrible album. In 2023 I listened to it and it is not actually bad at all! It doesn't meet their earlier stuff but it's pretty consistent and more importantly it still sounds like Flipper.
Not that received wisdom about punk albums is always wrong, I have listened to Grave New World.
― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 29 July 2023 02:18 (two years ago)
yeah it's pretty damn good! the one time I saw them was when the pre-LP single ("Someday/Distant Illusion") was out, on (I think?) their first post-Shatter tour. They played in a hippie food co-op that sometimes had shows at night. Ted Falconi was an absolute guitar god while simultaneously exuding negative pretension and presence, like a black hole on stage
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 29 July 2023 02:29 (two years ago)
I only saw them once at Thurston Moore's ATP, with Krist Novoselic on bass. I missed the very beginning and said to someone I wish they played Sacrifice only to be told they opened with it.
To think I missed Sacrifice for some of the worst fish & chips I'd ever eaten.
Mind you I did see Negative Approach that weekend which was one of the best sets I've ever seen
― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 29 July 2023 02:32 (two years ago)
Yeah greyfishy is a fine album
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 29 July 2023 02:41 (two years ago)