pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

Shangri-Las are at #49.

I don't know that album though - I just listen to Myrmidons of Melodrama.

I liked that Pitchfork list overall. I kept thinking of people coming across it who hadn't heard a lot of it and how much fun it would be to go through it. And how much they would learn! Fun and learning all around. And I liked all the jazz. I am all for turning people onto great jazz.

60s-70s are easily 90% of my listening and there were still a few new things for me in that list, especially in the 200-40 spots

ah fuck it's early and i'm not thinking jmm, thanks...

myrmidons is one of the best comps out there

i feel like there is some filler here that WL/WH or VU doesn't have.

White Light White Heat has a second side that I think you should familiarize yourself with.

that's the good side.

haha yeah, we're calling "heard her call my name" and "sister ray" filler? ok.

i'm with alfred; every vu album except loaded has been my favorite at one point in time (currently i prefer vu to the other two)

in fact i might've had a delusional second or two where loaded was my fav, first side of that record sounds really lovely on a sunny day

Mo's drumming on "Foggy Notion" alone!

yes so otm! this is maybe my favorite Velvet recording, that rhythm is so punchy, so motorik, you have to love it. this song choogles.

the 60s is still all-time for me. im so glad so much music was produced back then, you could spend a lifetime just looking through it all.

VU and CCR are my two favorite death choogle bands.

"Black Angel's Death Song" sounds like a wheezy noisey Dylan joke. ive never really wanted to hear that song again. "Run Run Run" choogles but i prefer them in Gothic/Romantic/Decadent mode w Nico.

i looked at that list again and i know its good because i only found three things i would take off. i mean there is stuff i don't listen to on there like ray charles and the band but i get why they are there. but only three "really, out of everything in the 60s?" moments while looking at it. lots of stuff i DO listen to a lot.

loaded > s/t imo

VU and CCR are my two favorite death choogle bands.

― scott seward, Wednesday, August 23, 2017 12:21 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes

Run Run Run is so amazing. yeesh. i played it yesterday. still kills me.

i turned rufus on to CCR a couple of weeks ago. he'd never really listened to them. and there was one song playing and i said to him: listen, it's the VU! and he agreed. now i can't remember what song it was. sounded pretty uncanny.

frankly im just glad pet sounds wasnt #1

a lot of stuff on Pendulum could be VU.

loaded > s/t imo

― marcos, Wednesday, August 23, 2017 9:23 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nonsense

no it is actually quite true

enjoyed your write-ups btw brad <3 and i had a good time listening to sonny sharrock yesterday

loaded is a great album and on certain days it's my favorite (it's certainly the one i've listened to the most), but it's so uncharacteristic that i have a hard time calling it the most definitive VU album

Loaded is the first one I bought. In 1983? I loved it immediately. Then i bought the first album. Blew my little mind. I do remember playing Loaded for the first time and thinking hey this is just a rock album this isn't scary. But I loved it all the same.

they played the HELL out of "foggy notion" and "i can't stand it" on the college radio station near me when VU came out. it was like they were 1985 pop hits.

enjoyed your write-ups btw brad <3 and i had a good time listening to sonny sharrock yesterday

― marcos, Wednesday, August 23, 2017 9:33 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thank you so much marcos!!!

Nice they included two Beefheart records after ignoring him on the 70s and 80s lists.

ie when he made his best records

I can never make it through an entire John Cale album. Someone brought in, like, every Cale album recently and I make it through about three songs. He must be my solo Ringo. or solo George after ATMP come to think of it...

solo lou reed has it all over solo lennon and mccartney album-wise though.

them's fightin words around here lol

I love three of Cale's solo records and at least six of Reed's.

after Lou, Nico made the best records. The End...is better than any Cale album. Nico and Yoko should have made an album together. They did the most interesting stuff.

even church of anthrax just makes me want to listen to a terry riley record. it's nowhere near the best thing that terry riley was involved in.

scott i love you but solo cale is where it's at

if you've tried w/ cale i guess there's nothing to be done, but at this point I think it's 70s cale > 70s reed for me

Paris 1919
Fear
Slow Dazzle

^^ all I need plus mayyyybe Songs for Drella

for Reed it's Transformr, Coney ISland Baby, The Blue Mask, Legendary Hearts, New Sensations, Set the Twilight Reeling and Ecstasy

Different mix of Reed albums for me but those proportions are about right and agree on the Cale recs (altho I do really like the Church of Anthrax too hmmm)

Church of Anthrax, Vintage Violence, Paris 1919 + Fear are all A+ classics — rest of the 70s for Cale is merely terrific.

i put on songs for drella today just to play test a copy and i lasted like 6 seconds. i can't listen to that.

BUT, in the interest of fairness, i just put on The Academy In Peril since I just cleaned a copy. I'm already a little bored....i think the first track is just a studio outtake.

and the solo piano second track is uhhhhh........

i like a lot of albums he produced though. so there is that. love that jennifer warnes album he did. stooges. lots of records.

academy in peril is pretty strange -- hard to tell what he was going for there (and why warners released it!). but i really like days of steam, king harry, a few other things there.

You know what album I really like that John Cale is on? The Tax Free album that Wally Tax made after The Outsiders broke up. 1970. Such a lovely album. Cale is on every track I think. Underrated album too. Lots of people have never heard it.

huh never even heard of that before!

me neither, checking it out now. richard davis, too!

I would swap out Dave "wheezy donkey" Van Ronk on Pitchfork's list for the Chicago Transit Authority album. I got a pristine first pressing of that at the store and HOLY SMOKES did it sound amazing. Unbelievable. From the Rotel to the Marantz to the Klipschs, I wish you guys could have heard it. John Cale never made an album as good as that one outside of VU.

The Tax Free album is pastoral deluxe. a wafting summer breeze. of weed. so pretty.

i think i like sally can't dance more than transformer tbh

ok now THAT is crazy talk

wow — i think sally can't dance is my least favorite lou reed album ever