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check out this Rush video directed by Zbigniew Rybczyński

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMSFqXGZ5TQ

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 03:48 (five years ago) link

Yep, that video is terrible, and is also for a song that was not on one if the albums I mentioned, but cool point. Rush is obviously not a particularly hip band.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 03:50 (five years ago) link

And just to be clear, I'm not at all surprised they didn't show up on this list, and I don't believe that makes it fatally flawed. I do think it shows a very obvious blindspot though.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 03:53 (five years ago) link

"Time Stand Still" is great!

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 03:56 (five years ago) link

(the song, not the video. I don't even love that period of Rush as much as some ilxors do but I do think it's a great song.)

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 03:57 (five years ago) link

Tim — point taken; but keep in mind these are rock ‘n roll fans we’re talking about... ;)

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 03:58 (five years ago) link

It's a good song, goofy video (not their only one), I don't love Hold Your Fire. Don't really know what Whiney was aiming for, it's a bit too late to shame me out of being a Rush superfan.

xxp

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 03:59 (five years ago) link

I like that song... gotta say, I’m legit affected by the sentiment (“Kids growing up, old friends growing older”)

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:04 (five years ago) link

Musically, it’s not too far away from something like French Frith Kaiser Thompson

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:07 (five years ago) link

Oh, I like Rush, I'm just saying that video has aged very poorly

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:11 (five years ago) link

I would not vote for that video in a top 200 videos of the 80s poll. Now the Subdivisions video on the other hand...

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:14 (five years ago) link

Aimee Mann is cool af in it

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:15 (five years ago) link

morrisp, they seem to have had a similar visual aesthetic as well.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/30/FrenchFrithKaiserThompson_AlbumCover_Live.jpg/220px-FrenchFrithKaiserThompson_AlbumCover_Live.jpg

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:16 (five years ago) link

Well goddamn. I don't read this thread often, but that old net advice about how on a long enough time scale every internet conversation will eventually become a discussion about Rush.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:18 (five years ago) link

It certainly will if I'm around for it

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:21 (five years ago) link

I just want to read writers that feel passionately about something and have something to say

this is the first time i’ve felt bad reading a criticism of this list bc this is exactly what i’m trying to do

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 04:51 (five years ago) link

Fascinated by Geddy Lee's eyes being scaled to 80% and pasted in the middle of his face. Also that video is astonishing for the fact that someone signed off on it.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 05:11 (five years ago) link

"time stand still" is such a good song

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 05:13 (five years ago) link

xp The original list results must have been far more heavily based on adding up tallies since once list has two Pixies albums in the top 10 and the other has two Bjork albums placed beside each other.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 05:37 (five years ago) link

"the other" = another

billstevejim, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 05:38 (five years ago) link

Also, someone earlier mentioned Midnight Oil and it reminded me that the 80s was a great era for Australian rock, and that normally gets ignored in these US-centric lists; I think INXS, Nick Cave and AC/DC are the only ones who made it, and they all crossed over in the States. For starters Midnight Oil, The Go-Betweens, Hoodoo Gurus, The Triffids, Paul Kelly, The Birthday Party, Sunnyboys, Mental As Anything, The Church and Crowded House all have records that I still listen to and love from the 80s. Go-Betweens omission is maybe the most surprising; I would've expected to see 16 Lovers Lane at least.

triggercut, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 06:25 (five years ago) link

australia certainly was ignored, even more than it was in the rolling stone list from the time. even as an australian in my 20s i'm unfortunately not too familiar with my country's output from then but The Church & The Go-Betweens are certainly deserving of more attention. there's probably something to be said about the lack of much of a music press here, leaving no one to strongly advocate for any sort of Australia-inclusive canon and leaving all the acts you mentioned much more forgotten to time than they should be.

ufo, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 06:58 (five years ago) link

this is imo a rad list - the lower end in particular is pleasingly eclectic, ppl are writing about what they care about & it's prompting me to listen to a lot of stuff I wouldn't otherwise be considering listening to rn. almost all the suggestions itt would make it worse, although the lack of latin american stuff is surprising.

I love this sort of enterprise; attempting to remake the canon into something more interesting and useful, the slightly giddy feeling you get from surveying so much different stuff, & trying to get ppl interested in an album in a paragraph is a noble format.

ogmor, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 08:33 (five years ago) link

^ yeah this, well written and with lots of great new-to-me stuff to check out.

Neil S, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 08:57 (five years ago) link

Somehow, I had always thought Crowded House were 100% Kiwi but I see now that they were based in Melbourne and the non-Finn members were all Australian or American. Huh.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 09:04 (five years ago) link

Those are good points ogmor - this is a fun list to think about and look at as a whole and yeah, there are definitely things from it I want to check out. Of course there are placings I disagree with and there are lots of personal favourites missing but that's to be expected. For me the most OTM comment in this thread is Simon H's point about 200 not being a big number for a whole decade, there was so much going on in the '80s, you could have much stricter criteria and still fill the list. I think that's why I really enjoyed the 1998 piece they did, I liked that they could recommend 50 records from a year that isn't really talked about as being part of a classic era for music or whatever.

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 09:05 (five years ago) link

Reviewing the whole list, glad to see La Monte Young, Meredith Monk, Branca, Ornette, Manuel Gottsching, lots of Eno, Metallica, Slayer, Mercyful Fate, AC/DC, Richard/Linda.

(Listening to French Frith Kaiser Thompson while typing this and came across the line "Now that I have kicked, Rolling Stone has picked my albums as the best that be.")

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 09:57 (five years ago) link

Soul Mining rarely gets a look-in with these things which strikes me as odd; Giant in particular seems to be exactly a blend of a load of the different genres they like.

piscesx, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 11:01 (five years ago) link

Jan Hammer was at his coolest on John Abercrombie's 'Timeless'.

― pomenitul

allow me to introduce you to a song by the name of "don't you know"

Well goddamn. I don't read this thread often, but that old net advice about how on a long enough time scale every internet conversation will eventually become a discussion about Rush.

― Elvis Telecom

you're confusing rush with hitler. again.

milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 12:52 (five years ago) link

The best thing I saw yesterday?

This guy from the Baltimore Ravens Marching Band playing PERFECT air drums to Rush's "Tom Sawyer": pic.twitter.com/uKxtXue0PM

— Prescott Rossi (@PrescottRossi) September 10, 2018

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 13:11 (five years ago) link

95% of this list is stuff you would have wanted to check out if you were Spin Magazine reader back in the 80s. Seems odd that it looks like a step forward for a music site in 2018.

President Keyes, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 14:00 (five years ago) link

how have I never seen that Rush video before, that's incredible

frogbs, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link

I wonder how much different the list would have looked if the writers had simply listed the albums from the decade that they listen to most frequently (in order of frequency)?

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 14:39 (five years ago) link

what’s the frequency, pitchfork

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 14:46 (five years ago) link

I love the way this Rush video starts, before it hurtles into wtf territory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wziJqdq4LcA

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link

Now that's what I'm talking about!

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 14:58 (five years ago) link

(Listening to French Frith Kaiser Thompson while typing this and came across the line "Now that I have kicked, Rolling Stone has picked my albums as the best that be.")

Kaiser has put out 2 albums in the past 10 years called "Plane Crash" related to that line.

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link

https://pitchfork.com/levels/why-tesla-is-hip-hops-new-car-of-choice/

Teslas still don’t dominate rap lyrics the way some other sports cars do, but it is on the rise. Whether they’re intrigued by Elon Musk as a tech mastermind, or fixated on what the future looks like, or simply into the surreality of hands-off driving, rappers are quickly making Tesla a staple and a signifier. As they cruise around in one, their dreams of flying spaceships are realized.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 September 2018 15:15 (five years ago) link

Sounds like concluding paragraph to a 10th-grade book report.

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Thursday, 13 September 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link

god this Rapper Product Endorsement Column is embarassing

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 September 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link

Damn is that a lot of passive voice

guardians of the gums: i am tooth (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 September 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link

Listening to Turiya Sings, really don't get how that's the one that got on the 80's list. AFAICT it's not re-released, and there are no tracks from it on the Luaka Bob comp, right? So... How has the voters heard it? Anyways, it's great, but still.

Frederik B, Thursday, 13 September 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link

there's one track from it on the comp

I first heard it via an mp3 blog four or five years ago. I was aware it had a bit of an internet cult but yeah, it's inclusion is still fairly surprising

Number None, Friday, 14 September 2018 02:44 (five years ago) link

I hadn't heard of Turiya Sings before the compilation, but right after it came out TS shot up into RYM's top 40 for 1982.

President Keyes, Friday, 14 September 2018 12:27 (five years ago) link

Gaucho is a 1970s album in spirit.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 14 September 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link

definitely. they didn't officially change the calendar to 1980 until the moment after gaucho was released imo

Karl Malone, Friday, 14 September 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link

(xposts to Frederik) The only place I've been able to find Turiya Sings is YouTube (am literally listening to it there right now, sounding great so far), I've no idea if Luaka Bop are planning on reissuing individual albums as a follow-up to the comp but yeah it looks to have been out of print a long time.

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 14 September 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link

On February 9, 2018, the 48-year-old Icelandic musician and film composer Jóhann Jóhannsson passed away suddenly from heart failure.

well that's one way of describing an OD.

Ludo, Friday, 14 September 2018 18:24 (five years ago) link

Initially kind of surprised Lewis - L'Amour didn't get retconned into the canon given its recent reissue, but then I looked and it was four years ago...I have no concept of time anymore.

A Box of After Dinner Comics Shipped to Your House Each Month (seandalai), Friday, 14 September 2018 22:56 (five years ago) link

80s poll w/ no Devo? that can't be right.

BrianB, Friday, 14 September 2018 23:07 (five years ago) link


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