pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

"the other" = another

Also, someone earlier mentioned Midnight Oil and it reminded me that the 80s was a great era for Australian rock, and that normally gets ignored in these US-centric lists; I think INXS, Nick Cave and AC/DC are the only ones who made it, and they all crossed over in the States. For starters Midnight Oil, The Go-Betweens, Hoodoo Gurus, The Triffids, Paul Kelly, The Birthday Party, Sunnyboys, Mental As Anything, The Church and Crowded House all have records that I still listen to and love from the 80s. Go-Betweens omission is maybe the most surprising; I would've expected to see 16 Lovers Lane at least.

australia certainly was ignored, even more than it was in the rolling stone list from the time. even as an australian in my 20s i'm unfortunately not too familiar with my country's output from then but The Church & The Go-Betweens are certainly deserving of more attention. there's probably something to be said about the lack of much of a music press here, leaving no one to strongly advocate for any sort of Australia-inclusive canon and leaving all the acts you mentioned much more forgotten to time than they should be.

this is imo a rad list - the lower end in particular is pleasingly eclectic, ppl are writing about what they care about & it's prompting me to listen to a lot of stuff I wouldn't otherwise be considering listening to rn. almost all the suggestions itt would make it worse, although the lack of latin american stuff is surprising.

I love this sort of enterprise; attempting to remake the canon into something more interesting and useful, the slightly giddy feeling you get from surveying so much different stuff, & trying to get ppl interested in an album in a paragraph is a noble format.

^ yeah this, well written and with lots of great new-to-me stuff to check out.

Somehow, I had always thought Crowded House were 100% Kiwi but I see now that they were based in Melbourne and the non-Finn members were all Australian or American. Huh.

Those are good points ogmor - this is a fun list to think about and look at as a whole and yeah, there are definitely things from it I want to check out. Of course there are placings I disagree with and there are lots of personal favourites missing but that's to be expected. For me the most OTM comment in this thread is Simon H's point about 200 not being a big number for a whole decade, there was so much going on in the '80s, you could have much stricter criteria and still fill the list. I think that's why I really enjoyed the 1998 piece they did, I liked that they could recommend 50 records from a year that isn't really talked about as being part of a classic era for music or whatever.

Reviewing the whole list, glad to see La Monte Young, Meredith Monk, Branca, Ornette, Manuel Gottsching, lots of Eno, Metallica, Slayer, Mercyful Fate, AC/DC, Richard/Linda.

(Listening to French Frith Kaiser Thompson while typing this and came across the line "Now that I have kicked, Rolling Stone has picked my albums as the best that be.")

Soul Mining rarely gets a look-in with these things which strikes me as odd; Giant in particular seems to be exactly a blend of a load of the different genres they like.

Jan Hammer was at his coolest on John Abercrombie's 'Timeless'.

― pomenitul

allow me to introduce you to a song by the name of "don't you know"

Well goddamn. I don't read this thread often, but that old net advice about how on a long enough time scale every internet conversation will eventually become a discussion about Rush.

― Elvis Telecom

you're confusing rush with hitler. again.

The best thing I saw yesterday?

This guy from the Baltimore Ravens Marching Band playing PERFECT air drums to Rush's "Tom Sawyer": pic.twitter.com/uKxtXue0PM

— Prescott Rossi (@PrescottRossi) September 10, 2018

95% of this list is stuff you would have wanted to check out if you were Spin Magazine reader back in the 80s. Seems odd that it looks like a step forward for a music site in 2018.

how have I never seen that Rush video before, that's incredible

I wonder how much different the list would have looked if the writers had simply listed the albums from the decade that they listen to most frequently (in order of frequency)?

what’s the frequency, pitchfork

I love the way this Rush video starts, before it hurtles into wtf territory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wziJqdq4LcA

Now that's what I'm talking about!

(Listening to French Frith Kaiser Thompson while typing this and came across the line "Now that I have kicked, Rolling Stone has picked my albums as the best that be.")

Kaiser has put out 2 albums in the past 10 years called "Plane Crash" related to that line.

https://pitchfork.com/levels/why-tesla-is-hip-hops-new-car-of-choice/

Teslas still don’t dominate rap lyrics the way some other sports cars do, but it is on the rise. Whether they’re intrigued by Elon Musk as a tech mastermind, or fixated on what the future looks like, or simply into the surreality of hands-off driving, rappers are quickly making Tesla a staple and a signifier. As they cruise around in one, their dreams of flying spaceships are realized.

Sounds like concluding paragraph to a 10th-grade book report.

god this Rapper Product Endorsement Column is embarassing

Damn is that a lot of passive voice

Listening to Turiya Sings, really don't get how that's the one that got on the 80's list. AFAICT it's not re-released, and there are no tracks from it on the Luaka Bob comp, right? So... How has the voters heard it? Anyways, it's great, but still.

there's one track from it on the comp

I first heard it via an mp3 blog four or five years ago. I was aware it had a bit of an internet cult but yeah, it's inclusion is still fairly surprising

I hadn't heard of Turiya Sings before the compilation, but right after it came out TS shot up into RYM's top 40 for 1982.

Gaucho is a 1970s album in spirit.

definitely. they didn't officially change the calendar to 1980 until the moment after gaucho was released imo

(xposts to Frederik) The only place I've been able to find Turiya Sings is YouTube (am literally listening to it there right now, sounding great so far), I've no idea if Luaka Bop are planning on reissuing individual albums as a follow-up to the comp but yeah it looks to have been out of print a long time.

On February 9, 2018, the 48-year-old Icelandic musician and film composer Jóhann Jóhannsson passed away suddenly from heart failure.

well that's one way of describing an OD.

Initially kind of surprised Lewis - L'Amour didn't get retconned into the canon given its recent reissue, but then I looked and it was four years ago...I have no concept of time anymore.

80s poll w/ no Devo? that can't be right.

Lewis is old hat. Everyone's all about Plux Quba now.

First Plux Quba revival was like 20 years ago, no? Did something happen recently to rerevive it?

morrisp, i think a few of those albums were on the RS list posted upthread

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I must be more of a Wenner kid, lol (shudder)

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(“Diverse,” that is, within the context of a list of popular, U.S.-centric albums that feel reasonable to compare to each other, aesthetically. I understand Pfork’s mission was different, this just works for me better.)

kind of hilarious that their #1 record was released in 1979. well, sure, why not, what the hell difference does a couple weeks make?

I mean, an album whose impact was mostly in the 80s, not released in America until January 1980, was listed as the number one critics pick for 1980 for RS and Pazz and Jop, its like who cares

I mean, I guess people care, but I think it's a solid argument that even though it was released in UK two weeks early, it primarily feels like an "80s" album

or felt

just curious - why does the RS best 100 albums of 80s list start at #96?

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/100-best-albums-of-the-eighties-150477/

maybe 4 of of them end up getting disqualified for one reason or another, so they bumped everything below it up a spot?

Weird — go thru the full list of 100 (in the link above) and compare?

yeah, that's what i'm doing now (the actual list of 100 is here: https://www.besteveralbums.com/thechart.php?c=10637)

first missing one i've found: human league's Dare was originally #78, between Steve Earle's Guitar Town and Robbie Robertson S/T. now it's just gone.

second exclusion: Madonna's S/T, originally positioned at #50, between Run D.M.C.'s S/T and Feelies' Crazy Rhythms
third exclusion: Janet Jackson's Control originally #28, between Lennon/Ono's Double Fantasy and GnR's Appetite for Destruction
fourth exclusion: Smiths S/T, originally #2, between Black Uhuru's Red and Tom Wait's Rain Dogs

i don't think it's a conspiracy or anything, it's just weird that they're gone, and also that whoever put up the webpage for the 100 best albums didn't think twice about adjusting the rankings for most of the list and starting it at #96

pitchfork is dumb but they can count to 100

fourth exclusion: Smiths S/T, originally #2, between Black Uhuru's Red and Tom Wait's Rain Dogs

sorry, this should be "originally #22"

Bizzare... is it possible that the writer of those four blurbs somehow retained the copyright, and RS didn’t have authorization to reprint them online? I know that seems unlikely, I’m grasping at straws.

dare wasnt in the new p4k one either

theyre yezhoving the human league

what does yezhoving mean?

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/warehouse-13-artifact-database/images/a/a6/Yezhov-before_and_after.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151227171333

Erasing (that's Yezhov up there), though I've never heard it being used as a verb