Battle of 1970: "Free Your Mind and Your Ass Will Follow" vs "Funhouse"

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also: battle of the greatest detroit lp!!!

― juan jeffert (groove nihilist), Thursday, 28 September 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

funhouse

― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Thursday, 28 September 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

funhouse

― SAS (sschwartzberg), Thursday, 28 September 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

yeah dude funhouse easy, and i fucking LOVE free yr mind

― mango selassie (teenagequiet), Thursday, 28 September 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

funhouse destroys all

― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 28 September 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

^^^^^^^COMPLETELY OTM

an interesting question, loving both myself, though i can't imagine ever thinking the former better than the latter... They both have the same drugged out, crazed feeling about them, but it's the difference between "psychedelic" and "too far gone to do anything else". . .

― people explosion (Sonny A.), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

Apples and Oranges, but Funhouse destroys all, agreed.

― Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

apples and oranges, yes, if apples are an acknowledged influence on oranges and vice versa. . . I mean, there's obviously a lot of room to compare the two, it's just that they're coming from two different places. it's strange how I can hardly think of anything that the stooges do better than funkadelic (musicianship, groove, maybe lyrics) except general tone, and yet i knew what the answer was as soon as i looked at the question. what is it that is so goddamn magical about fun house?

― people explosion (Sonny A.), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

IT WAS CARVED IOUT OF BLOOD AND GIATS I MEAN GOATS

― Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

"groove"

― Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

what is it that is so goddamn magical about fun house?

sequencing!

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

well, it's balls out, dick draggin on the ground, rawk.
that's it magic.
that and it makes no bones about being just that.

― edde (edde), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

"sequencing" -- very true. but it has to be more than that because the boxset is even bettr than the album!

― people explosion (Sonny A.), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

Free Your Mind, every time.

― Leopold Boom! (noodle vague), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

Free Your Mind < Funhouse < Maggot Brain

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

I'm goin with Free Your Mind (as I was just listening to it last night) - one of the weirdest records ever.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

of the two its the one I listen to more. I have to be in a particular mood for Funhouse, which I actually find kind of a grueling listen.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

well yeah, that's sorta the point...

― mango selassie (teenagequiet), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Fun House. But that could easily change depending on my mood; & depending on whether the remastered Free Yr Mind is a big improvement sonicwise (when I finally hear it.)

And either way, the combined releases of Funkadelic, Free Your Mind and Osmium still ensures that Clinton & crew capture "Band of the year" honours in my own personal hall of fame. (1970: Best year evah!)

― M. Agony Von Bontee (M. Agony Von Bontee), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

fun house

― a.b. (alanbanana), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

Yeti.

Haha no I'm just kidding Funhouse probably. Great year for music.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

funhouse

― George Lochinski (Destroy A. Monsters), Thursday, 28 September 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

Thing the stooges do better than funkadelic

vocals

― Adam S S (Zephery), Thursday, 28 September 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

No.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 28 September 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

FUN*MF*HOUSE.

― brightscreamer (brightscreamer), Thursday, 28 September 2006 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

Funhouse sounds as good when drunk as it does when hungover. Didn't the self-titled Funkadelic album come out in 1970 too? Always liked it more as an album, even though "Friday Night August 14th" and "I Wanna Know If It's Good For You" wreck the room.

― Antti Piirainen (Antti), Monday, 2 October 2006 10:15 (nineteen years ago)

not even remotely close. Funhouse every time.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 2 October 2006 10:26 (nineteen years ago)

i thought free yer mind came out in 71? the s/t funkadelic came out in 70. did they both come out that year? both black sabbath AND paranoid came out in 1970. black sabbath -vs- funhouse would be too hard for me. like picking one child over another. although if i had to i might pick rufus cuz cyrus is nutz and trying to drive me CRAZY right this second. great year indeed though.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 2 October 2006 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

i probably prefer s/t, maggot brain, and america eats its young, and cosmic slop and maybe even standing on the verge over free your mind. funky dollar bill does destroy though. and i haven't listened to free your mind in years so i might be wrong.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 2 October 2006 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

Rufus and Cyrus?! Were you or the missus perhaps overfond of King Crimson's "Happy Family", Scott?

― M. Agony Von Bontee (M. Agony Von Bontee), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

Free Your Mind and Your Ass Will Follow, because Funhouse always left me a little cold, and not in a great way.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

but yeah these albums were released in different years so it's a false dichotomy

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

no they weren't. both 1970. Maggot Brain is '71.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

You are correct sir, September 1970. I trusted two usually good sources and they were both wrong.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

this thread should be re-titled "battle of the junkie guitarists from Detroit"

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

"Rufus and Cyrus?! Were you or the missus perhaps overfond of King Crimson's "Happy Family", Scott?"

is their a rufus and a cyrus in that song!? we named rufus after my great great great great uncle Gen. Rufus Saxton and i can't remember where we got cyrus from.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

haha my last post sounds really pissy; sowwy.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

You have devewoped a typing impediment.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

sooooo, what is yer order of preference, matos? i already said mine, but i'm gonna change it:

s/t
maggot brain
america eats its young
cosmic slop
free your mind...
standing on the verge

(and the live album was after that, right? some people might prefer that to some of the studio albums. i don't even own a copy anymore. anyway, the first five years of recordings or thereabouts. when i thought about it i remembered what a profound effect free yer mind had on me in a way that standing on the verge never did.)

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

or matt. or anyone. i remember some thread where people were really poo-pooing america eats its young and it made me cry a little. i have always loved it so.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

the first three are all of kind of equal stature in my mind, with maybe Free Yr Mind at the top due to all the production weirdness - the Meadowbrook thing is okay but I really can't see anyone preferring it to the studio stuff, some of it sloppy as fuck. Billy Bass notes how much he hates it in the recent Wax Poetics.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

I totally dig America Eats Its Young!! that album has its own thread tho, maybe that's what yr thinking of.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

i think maybe it was martin's funk thread? where people were down on it? i can't remember.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

I would call it like this...
s/t
america eats its young
maggot brain
standing on the verge
free your mind...
cosmic slop
...but it really doesn't matter because I love them all so much.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

"...but it really doesn't matter because I love them all so much."

yeah, i hear that.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

amen

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

but there are still gonna be albums that you might play more than others. i guess i pull them all out pretty equally these days. i don't listen to p-funk like i used to. years of intense saturation. that grunge thread reminded me that when grunge was getting big all i was listening to at the time were p-funk rekkerds. and can. well, not ALL, but i was worshipping at the temple pretty heavily in the late 80's/early 90's.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

"worshipping at the temple" = "permanent 4:20"?

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

i was just obsessed! and in awe. and in the late 80's all those nice vinyl reissues of the westbound stuff started coming out so i could hear them all without paying lots of money.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't catch on until the early 90s when I got to college, at which point there were a couple years where I was insanely pissed that there were no reissues of the Warner Bros albums, particularly One Nation Under a Groove... the Westbound stuff was around plenty tho (and are still my favorites)

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

all that stuff gave me hope during a period in my life when i needed lots and lots of hope. some stuff i need to re-collect. i don't own copies of chocolate city or up for the downstroke anymore.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

!!! Up For The Downstroke is the one Parliament record that actually kinda sounds like early Funkadelic!

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

(ie its the only one with Eddie Hazel on it)

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

osmium

― dave q (listerine), Monday, 2 October 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

is their a rufus and a cyrus in that song!? we named rufus after my great great great great uncle Gen. Rufus Saxton and i can't remember where we got cyrus from

D'OH! Two minutes after I posted that, I gave it a bit more thought and realized that the lyric is actually "Rufus, SILAS, Jonah, Jude" etc. If you'd mentioned the names in the reverse order, it wouldn't have triggered my faulty memory banks so.

(But at least I remembered that the Crimson LP in question is Lizard - yet another 1970 release...)

― Monty Von Byonga (Monty Von Byonga), Monday, 2 October 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

I think Fun House is better but I way prefer Funkadelic as a band.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

four years pass...

"Funky Dollar Bill" will be played at my funeral.

― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 May 2011 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

"Dirt" will be played at mine

― Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Friday, 13 May 2011 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

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