Anti-Pop Consortium's Arrhythmia C or D

me no like anti-pop. me am thinking they are pretentious art-wank featuring mc diarreah-of-the-mouth and his two cohorts. me am thinking el-p-style packing of as many ill-fitting words into one verse as possible is as much dead end as dmx only 1/1000th as fun. me am rhinking anti-cadence = anti-rap.

I hate this shifty-eye myrmidon thing where being pretentious is a hate crime, can't it be fun to be smart? re: art-wank: Anti-Pop, above all other artists, are the fucking epitomy of HipHop.

padgett to thread!

The cadence thing can be irritating but one of the fun things about Antipop Consortium is how their lyrical pretentions (typically undergroundish) actually transfer into their meandering IDM-lite production as well. It is totally outlandish and self-consciously difficult and everything, which could put off lots of people, but I find it somewhat endearing. I guess I'm getting a kick out of the spittin-science underground promise finding its logical conclusion.

The dismantling of last year's ILM semi-consensus on what made music, esp. pop music good is no bad thing, though Jess. I still believe in all that stuff but it's long been clear that you have to keep fighting some battles again and again. My tip for a happier ILM experience - read what people are saying about music and try to ignore the examples being used. And keep away from list threads!

what you have just described as anti-pops main strengths are precisely what bug me about them. i remember thinking the first lp was brilliant for the first couple of spins and then just exhausted me with how far it was willing to go to impress me in the lamest way possible.

no matter how you slice it, "i'm sick of arguing with ignorant people" and "i can't even begin to address...you don't know fuck about hiphop" are ass, ass, ASS "arguments" and fairly indicative of the current state of ilm discourse.

My reservations are more about the beats, at least on the first album (haven't heard more than a couple of tracks off the second yet). I like the way they're going back to a more electronic '80s hip-hop sound, it fits the sci-fi-ness of the rapping, but I don't think it really gets beyond competent. They're neither funky enough nor experimental enough.

My favorite thing of theirs so far is Tuff Jam (?) off that EP they did. The beats on that have this cool electro skank about them.

I'm going to plead ignorance here and say that I didn't really understand what Jess meant by 'anti-cadence' in the first place!

it's the ever increasing sunshine and nice weather (and a fucking holiday in france doesn't hurt either i guess. ;)).

seriously though, i become much more of a popist bigot when the sunshine comes. i have no idea why. this doesnt mean i dont stand by my comments on this thread.

i've never had any real time for eithers work, though.

beatnik-poetry-pretentiousness raises my hackles. the other music thing raises my hackles. it's less a dictum than a personal guideline.

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noone to thread!!

(did you see what i did there?)

(*this may be a joke.)

i'm turning into an old crank, yes i know.

Actually, my friend once cued up the acapella of Disorientation over the JB's Stone to the Bone. Some of the MCs were on top of every single beat, I think Priest and the female MC if I remember correctly. It's just hard to hear that on the original version of Disorientation because of the "abstract" beat.

Whoever wants a more R+B antipop consortium has got it right here: super-glossy production (for a "glitch-hop" album, anyway), lots of hooks, kinda like an IDM Kanye West or something. Waaay more fun than the first album.

In my opinion, they (along with a few luminaries like Can-Ox, Mike Ladd, New Flesh, Sensational) are making the most consistently interesting non-mainstream hip hop, not obsessed and backward looking (a la Solesides--who are unbelievably dull) but genuinely novel in decidely uncompromising ways. I like how they combine with the more noise-nik kind of stuff (I originally bought their first album because I realized that their guess spots on the Scotty Hard, Curse of the Golden Vampire, etc, really shone out to me). I suppose their attitude can get a little over-the-top and God knows the way critics and folks like Bob Zemko talk about them is irritating as all hell (saving/epitome of hip hop--aye yay yay) but I think the music they make themselves is rather interesting.

Arrhythmia is definitely much more poppy and well paced (and shorter) than Tragic Epilogue which despite a lot of quality tracks could get a little monotonous at nearly an hour long. A couple of the skits are amusing on the new LP (they seem to have a sense of humor about themselves which I like) and "Human Shield" and "Bubbles " are just terrific.

dug out arrhythmia and ends against the middle today and they sound great!!

Beans has some new albums out. Three I think?

now i’m on to “tragic epilogue” ... SO DOPE

all about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZObFoF58BEE