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No thread on him yet, it appears. And admittedly all I ever really knew about this guy (aside from that swathed-in-bandages look he prefers live) was that he was (allegedly) Canadian, had worked with some prog-art group called FM besides doing solo stuff and, most importantly to my mind, had collaborated regularly with Gary Numan at the height of his pomp, adding violin to songs and live performances in the Telekon/Dance era. And I did like what I heard.

But the other day I had occasion to snag a copy of a 1980-era live show he did on his own for Canadian radio and holy heck! Loud, chaotic, crazy, a massive combination of post-Tangerine Dream/Ash Ra Tempel electronic textures and loops, rising and falling swathes of guitar feedback and, indeed, amplified violin of the damned.

Like the guy's website too. And am not surprised that he regularly scores classical film soundtracks now. So what does everyone else think?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

(Sorry, should say 'classic silent film' etc.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

he used to play around toronto all the time when i was a teen.

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

I'd completely forgotten that this bloke existed until now. Now I can't remember why I've heard of him. For some reason I think he might have been mentioned in Kerrang! in the 80s.

You've Had Your Chances (noodle vague), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

sundar OTM. very hard to avoid in toronto for many years. always playing street festivals and that kind of thing. theatrical prog-new wave. i had no idea anyone from outside of southern ontario was aware of him.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

FM is horrible, yet kinda funny

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

SLAUGHTER IN ROBOT VILLAGE!

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

are you canadian shakey mo?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

Actually a couple of these songs *really* make me think of the Legendary Pink Dots in their slower/moodier/trippier guises. It's not an exact comparison -- Nash's song structure is more straightforward -- but the slightly arch way he sings combined with the electronics is the connection here. Interesting.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

sundar OTM. very hard to avoid in toronto for many years. always playing street festivals and that kind of thing. theatrical prog-new wave. i had no idea anyone from outside of southern ontario was aware of him.

-- Fritz Wollner (fritzwollner5...), Today 3:59 PM. (Fritz) (later)

that's what i thought! also: not sundar

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

I'm from California.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

Saw him at the Lyceum in London some time in the early '80's. Don't remember a lot about it to be honest, although I recall there were various rumours concerning the reasons for him always concealing his appearnace behind layers of bandages, the most common being that he was: (a) a moderately famous old progger; (b) middle-aged and bald; or (c) a moderately famous old progger who was middle-aged and bald.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

wow. i totally thought no-one west of etobicoke would know nash the slash or fm.

do you guys know max webster? the headpins? the killer dwarfs (sic)? the kings?

sorry, slocki!

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

(d) Syd Barrett.

How serious that rumour was, I dunno.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

funny...i was looking through some old CDs a few months ago and found this forgotten one called "Blues for the Flying Dutchman" by some singer songwriter called Thomas Anderson....had a song on it called "Whatever Happened to Nash the Slash"...i didn't know it was about a real musician.

Whatever Happened to Nash the Slash

Living under the city
Living down with the subway trains
Mummy's rags like a second skin
Silk top-hat and electric violin

Down below where he couldn't be seen
Down below alone with his machines
There's a phantom living underneath the street
Down the stairs you can hear him under your feet

And whatever happened to the underground
It's a midnight movie for the folks out of town
Here and gone in a second's flash
Whatever happened to Nash the Slash

The invisible man with his reel to reel
Electric drone and feedback squeal
Dressed to the nines as the night comes on
See him in a taxi-cab in the light of dawn

Playing to strike a nerve
Glass Eye and Dead Man's Curve
See his name scrawled on the subway walls
With Armand Schaubroeck Steals and the New York Dolls

And whatever happened to the underground
It's a midnight movie for the folks out of town
Here and gone in a second's flash
Whatever happened to Nash the Slash

M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Happiness is beginning to rise...

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

also while googling those lyrics found out that he was one of the inspirations for SPIRIT OF THE RADIO by RUSH! crazy! (from 2112.net):

Working On The Radio", by The 102.1 Band, 1979

Written and recorded by members of Toronto's CFNY, this song was most likely an inspiration for Rush's "The Spirit of Radio", both musically and thematically. Released in January the following year, the driving riff of "The Spirit of Radio" is obviously similar to the one used in this song, and Alex's guitar solo is similar to this song's solo performed by "special guest" Nash the Slash on electric violin (a member of the band FM, he later left for a solo career and was replaced by Ben Mink). Like "The Spirit of Radio", the song itself is a similar tribute to CFNY, the same 'Spirit of Radio' credited in the Permanent Waves linernotes. In addition, original Canadian pressings of Permanent Waves (with the Dewey Defeats Truman cover), have Anthem catalog number "ANR-1-1021" and 1021 pressed into the center grooves.
"There is a radio station in Toronto called CFNY-FM, who were in the late 'seventies just about the last of the truly 'free' radio stations in North America, playing all kinds of weird stuff. Their slogan was (and is) 'The Spirit of Radio', hence the dedication. The song was inspired by the idea of how special radio can be when it’s presented by 'real people', and not by chart numbers and 'demographics'. In spite of becoming a little more formatted over the years (hence the 'so far'), they remain the 'alternative' radio in the area." - Neil Peart, "Backstage Club Newsletter", Janurary 1988

M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

etobicoke

Now this is an amazing name.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

omg cfny

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

etobicoke pronounced etobiCO

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

His first album, Children of the Night, has some good tracks: Wolf, Glass Eye, Swing Shift. The earlier EPs are good too. FM was often horrible and awesome at the same time.

todd (todd), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

eh toe bee ko

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

more eh toe buh ko really.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Okay the cover of "Dead Man's Curve" is a bit weird. (But that's the only misfire so far eight tracks in.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't he have a crummy cover version on Dindisc or something?

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

"(d) Syd Barrett."

Which is basically the same as (c), except for the "moderately" bit.

(Iirc one of the more specific rumours was that he was something to do with Van Der Graaf Generator)

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

didn't he work with David Pritchard on Nocturnal Earthworm Stew? that's a total classic.

Ghost Bear Junior High Attendance Party (Ghost Bear Junior High Attenda), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)


nash's big hits were covers, as i remember, the big one is grand funk's "american band"

cfny (now "The Edge!") totally sucks now, but geddy was right about it in the eighties

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

by geddy i mean neil peart

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

my wife picked up the first FM LP out of a dollar bin cuz she'll buy pretty much anything recorded with heavy synths between '76 and '82 or so (see also Tomita, Synergy, Vangelis etc)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Nash did lots of covers:

Dead Man's Curve
Smoke on the Water (as Dopes on the Water - ugh)
19th Nervous Breakdown
plus all of the American Bandages album

todd (todd), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha, Nash The Slash...I saw him open for Gary Numan back in the day...I remember being kinda frightened by him, with that mask and that wispy voice...he did a pretty memorable version of "Baba O'Reilly" (forgive me if I've botched the spelling, I can never remember if it's Reilly or Riley)...I was pretty intrigued, being a kid who was into rock music and horror films...(Nash was way more scary than Alice Cooper, who I also idolized back then)...I also remember Gary Numan entering the stage in a little pyramid car, with his head sticking out the top...a fun show!

hank (hank s), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

this was Numan's Pleasure Principle tour, btw...

hank (hank s), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

pretty sure I saw him playing electrical mandolin outside the eaton centre this summer. Unless it was some other person swathed in bandages.

pauls00 (pauls00), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

max webster? the headpins? the killer dwarfs (sic)? the kings?

Yes, Max Webster is about the only one of those acts which hasn't had reissue of catalog on CD in the US. Oddly, they were the most successful, being flogged around on the strength of Rush's management.

The Headpins' Play It Loud was just reissued on Wounded Bird. Sounds a bit like Van Halen (with some Y&T, too) fronted by a screaming over-the-top girl singer, Darby Mills. She had Farrah Fawcett hair! For fans of barrel-scrapers, like me. If you liked 1994, you'd also like some Headpins.

The Killer Dwarfs were regularly on undercards -- like Helix -- in the Lehigh Valley. Didn't leave much of an impression. Didn't the frontman ride a tricycle around onstage?

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

And I recall having Nash the Slash's first solo album. Good image promised that which was not quite backed up by the grooves.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

is this dude the spiritual godfather to buckethead, kinda?

M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

i have his 'dreams and nightmares' album on ralph records which has some stupendous tracks on it - 'lost lenore' in particular. he was heavily hyped in the uk in the early 80s by virgin offshoot dindisc but bombed. he returned a couple of years later on heavy metal records and appeared on the cover of kerrrang.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

"Dead man's Curve" yeah that was it.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, so pretty much based on the whole broadcast:

Covers = eh. ("Smoke on the Water" aside)

Originals = pretty cool, if ultimately all mostly similar to each other. But still pretty cool. Don't think I need to get anything else by him, though.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

Wasn't there a rumour that Ben Mink (his replacement in FM) was actually Nash sans bandages? If so, this makes Nash The Slash subsequently responsible for k.d. lang as Mink was her producer. Probably not true.

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

If I remember correctly, there's a note on the LP cover of And You Thought You Were Normal which recommends that you play the album at both 33 and 45. Sounded good either way, too.

Hideous Lump (Hideous Lump), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 01:46 (nineteen years ago)

Yep, Nash was balding, thus the bandages. Also got a namecheck in the lyrics of Iggy Pop's "Eggs on Plate" on Party.

Allen Baekeland (Allen Baekeland), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 03:57 (nineteen years ago)

they used to play his cover of nineteenth nervous breakdown on australia n late night music video program "rage" quite a bit

electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 04:02 (nineteen years ago)

I use him as a yardstick for how adventurous Smash Hits was in its early years, including a red flexi (Swing Shift) on the cover.

Jez (Jez), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 06:20 (nineteen years ago)

if you squint long enough, you might see him in this : http://www.littledetroit.net/Features/ForgiveUsOurSynths.php
if that were a festival line-up in the day, i'd cry.

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 06:49 (nineteen years ago)

no mention of "danc eafter curfiew"? that song is great. i heard it was a big hit in poland or somewhere like that.

speculator (speculator), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

I used to always get him mixed up with Wazmo Nariz and Skafish (not that they all sounded similar).

Jeff K (jeff k), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

sundar OTM. very hard to avoid in toronto for many years. always playing street festivals and that kind of thing. theatrical prog-new wave. i had no idea anyone from outside of southern ontario was aware of him.

-- Fritz Wollner (fritzwollner5...), October 24th, 2006.

double-OTM. i was first introduced to Nash via my high school art teacher, who kept his records beside tom tom club, richie hawtin, and the horslips in our art room in lasalle, ontario. classic since grade 9 for me.

that's so taylrr (ken taylrr), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

The lead singer with Red Organ Serpent Sound reminded me of Nash The Slash...

http://www.gigwise.com/artists/00002192_Red%20Organmain.jpg

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 26 October 2006 08:42 (nineteen years ago)

He also makes an apperance in Roadkill, the first of Bruce McDonald's road movies (Highway 61, HardCore Logo followed later).

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 26 October 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

"do you guys know max webster? the headpins? the killer dwarfs (sic)? the kings?"

yes, yes, yes, and yes. and i like the FM stuff that Nash did.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 26 October 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

i always lump the FM album I have in with Mi-Sex's Space Race for some reason. Mi-Sex were probably more pub-synth though. i should dust them off and play them.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 26 October 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

I have a couple of his solo albums from the early 80's, Children of the Night and And You Thought You Were Normal. Very dance-oriented ("Dance After Curfew" is the intended hit and sounds it) and very synth-heavey but gritty. The first one sorta reminds me esthetically of Quintron, it sounds like one guy doing it all himself cheaply but the results are odd and endearing. It's very one-note, but if you like that sound you'll like the LPs. He's not a traditional vocalist but makes do.

Saw him perform in a bar in Toronto summer of 1993. It was an instrumental show IIRC, very low key. Purchased his Highway 61 soundtrack CD after the show, can't say I've listened to it since then.

Afterwards I ran across some FM lps in a bargain bin and picked them up. Black Noise has some good cuts, I was obsessed with "Aldebarran" for awhile. Very similar to where current bands Zombi or Crime in Choir are going, there are cheesy elements but it's not without charm or power. The other one I picked up Surveillance was pretty wretched though.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Thursday, 26 October 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

Why would anyone admit to knowing Max Webster?

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 26 October 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

cause they were fucking awesome maybe!~?!??!!!

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 26 October 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

The return of FM: (minus Slash)

http://www.thebandfm.com


sw

Steven Ward (rockcrit88), Monday, 30 October 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

Nash minus bandages - in top hat, ruffles, and shades. apparently is vampire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY9NVFhZlkg&feature=related

Kim, Sunday, 26 September 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)

Everyone really does go goth in the end.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 September 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

tbf, this is more like in the beginning. but this clip is rather spectacularly nerdy isn't it? why do i like it?

Kim, Monday, 27 September 2010 16:42 (fifteen years ago)

this clip is rather spectacularly nerdy isn't it? why do i like it?

The question answers itself!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 September 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

ILX: should I walk the three minutes from my work to the record stall in the market one lunchtime this week and spend £5 on 'Children of The Night'?

I ain't that kind of player I just foul a lot (DJ Mencap), Monday, 27 September 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

yes. you should.

Deluxe Merseybeat Wig (Jack Battery-Pack), Monday, 27 September 2010 19:49 (fifteen years ago)

Ned - I missed this the first time around but I met Nash briefly when he passed through my old stomping grounds. Sold him vinyl copies of Seventeen Seconds and A Broken Frame!

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 27 September 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)

So I just found that the producer of the Swing Shift video has put a cleaned, remastered version up on youtube, and it is making me sad that it has 100x fewer viewers than the grainy VHS rip that was already up, so, here, it is shiny and clean and stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R3OyMu7a8A

Also digging the dude's other vids, a bunch of early 80s Vancouver live videos which are a neat document of a scene I couldn't have told you existed until 5 minutes ago: http://www.youtube.com/user/stokelyvids

(Nash = classic, in case I didn't make that clear. Thanks for the FM vid, Kim)

patapon pataphysics (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 27 September 2010 21:28 (fifteen years ago)

two years pass...

Turns out he's retired as of a couple of months ago. One thing in the message stopped me short:

I was the first Canadian musician to use a drum machine on an album (1978), at a time when drum machines were outlawed according to the bylaws of the Toronto Musicians' Association.

What the! What's the story here?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 02:17 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

RIP

goth colouring book (anagram), Monday, 12 May 2014 19:24 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, just saw the news

http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/music/2014/05/12/nash_the_slash_toronto_rock_violinist_dead_at_66.html

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 May 2014 19:57 (twelve years ago)

Whoa. RIP.

emil.y, Monday, 12 May 2014 20:07 (twelve years ago)

Everyone in Toronto posting about this. Never did see him, sort of remember "Dead Man's Curve."

clemenza, Monday, 12 May 2014 20:10 (twelve years ago)

Aw! RIP.

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 12 May 2014 20:11 (twelve years ago)

Johnny we hardly knew you..

Mark G, Monday, 12 May 2014 20:31 (twelve years ago)

eight years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0ncUN_NREw

MaresNest, Saturday, 12 November 2022 13:06 (three years ago)

three years pass...

Didn't realize there was a documentary till 10 minutes ago, and when I started looking into it, it's actually playing in Toronto tomorrow night!

https://boxoffice.hotdocs.ca/websales/pages/info.aspx?evtinfo=592342~cf285ddd-dacb-4f18-89b8-1252c6dcffa6

I'm just not up to the five hours in the car, so I'll reluctantly pass and hope it shows up closer to home in the coming months.

clemenza, Thursday, 12 March 2026 23:30 (three months ago)


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