TS Larry Carlton vs Larry Coryell

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The Redd 47 Ronin (Ken L), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 01:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm gonna have to give it Carlton, if only for playing on BW Stevenson's "My Maria."

The Redd 47 Ronin (Ken L), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 01:53 (eighteen years ago) link

You see, I used to think these two dudes were one really busy guitar player.

The Redd 47 Ronin (Ken L), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 02:04 (eighteen years ago) link

larry coryell is a better guitarist, and one that i enjoy, but larry carlton is very good at what he does as well. and i enjoy his presence on the five million records that i own with him playing. but i can definitely live without his solo albums. whereas coryell has tons of great solo albums that are well worth listening to.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 02:10 (eighteen years ago) link

"but i can definitely live without his solo albums"

Kid Charlemagne would not be the same without Larry Carlton, but the couple of his records I have heard did not do much for me either.

"whereas coryell has tons of great solo albums that are well worth listening to."

Larry Coryell just missed out not being on Colombia records or recording with Miles Davis. I think some of his fusion work is pretty close to John McLaughlin and a bit better than Al DiMeola. Coryell was definitely was in the fusion reactor at about the first bang, he just was working with Chico Hamilton and Gary Burton instead of Miles Davis and Chick Corea. The music was about as good, but with much less of a public profile. Coryell was also doing the high powered acoustic guitar jazz with John McLaughlin a few years before the success of those "Grace, Passion and Fire" records which were really popular.

The sad thing is about Coryell is that I have heard quite a bit of his music, but not much that was made in the last 25 years. I know Coryell has gone back and made a bunch of more standard Jazz guitar music, but I don't know much about it at all.

I'm sure both of these dudes have been mistaken for each other more times than about anyone this side of Dr. Lonnie Smith and Lonnie Liston Smith.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 05:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Larry 'STORMBRINGER' Coryell, easy.

strom (strom), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Never heard any albums by either of 'em (so what the hell gives me the right to voice my opinion?); but I gotta take Carlton's Royal Scam solos over Coryell's showpiece on the Jazz Composers Orchestra album. But that's only because of my usual preference for concise guitar solos within the context of SONGS as opposed to extended jamming-type stuff. And the liberal dose of feedback within that JCOA track is pretty daring for jazz in 1968.

M. Agony Von Bontee (M. Agony Von Bontee), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Coryell a lot and I don't think I've ever heard Carlton.

Coryell S: Spaces w/McLaughlin and Billy Cobham, and this one high-powered organ trio thing I have from the 90s

Coryell D: some interview I read where he was whining that he should have been Jimi Hendrix by rights

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link

i kinda prefer coryell for a really strained reason = when i wz abt 17 i read a sneery (rock-crit) review of him comparing him to HENDRIX and i wz then v.punky and didn't approve of hnedrix so (by uh logic) decided i wz pro coryell

i never heard anything by him till abt four years ago and i quite liked it! (it wz sort of steely danish)

so hurrah!

i accept this argt will not stand up in the courts of time

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think I've ever heard Carlton

No? He plays on five Joni Mitchell albums (starting with Court and Spark) and four Steely Dan albums (starting with Katy Lied). I've never heard a solo recording, though.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 16 November 2006 00:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Larry Coryell is pretty cool on Steve Marcus's Tomorrow Never Knows.

The Redd 47 Ronin (Ken L), Thursday, 16 November 2006 03:26 (eighteen years ago) link

the carlton solo stuff i have heard is like, you know, sanborn solo stuff i have heard. but, like i said, almost ALL of coryell's 60's and early 70's stuff is worth hearing.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 16 November 2006 04:27 (eighteen years ago) link

ten years pass...

listening to 11th house/coryell right now (rip)

mark s, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 14:54 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR-VI_vyeGI

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 15:21 (seven years ago) link

(this really must have been sampled for a heap of rap beats, right?)

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 15:22 (seven years ago) link

funny this thread exists. I feel bad admitting that I've seen Larry Coryell's name pop up in guitar magazines and elsewhere over the years, but I don't think I've ever listened to him. More often than not, I have indeed confused him with Larry "Fat Time" Carlton.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 15:24 (seven years ago) link

and of course, now I'm confusing Larry Carlton with Mike Stern.. duh...

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 15:26 (seven years ago) link

coryell >>>>>> stern i think

mark s, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 15:37 (seven years ago) link


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