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In the blonde corner, the Scandinavian ex-Velvet, in the dark corner, the godfather of techstep

― Robin, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

this came to mind whilst watching the royal tenabaums the other day... actually i don't really know much of (the first) nico's solo stuff - where is the best place ot start, chelsea girl?

― Robin, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've never thought Chelsea Girl was up to much, and, prompted to listen to it again by that film, I still didn't really like it. I don't want to say something as unthinking and obvious as 'her voice is unsuited to the material', but I may have to.

The Marble Index and Desertshore are much more like it.

Is Ed Rush a pseudonym?

― Michael Jones, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, it is. Real name is Ben Settle. All those No U-Turn records from the classic Torque period are amazing. I vote for Nico.

Nico's records on the other hand never did much for me (except the Velvet's 1st album).

― Alex in SF, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nibelungenland is one of my favourite songs evah. I am not now and haf nevah been a Goth...

― mark s, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've never heard of Nico.

Nico, on the other hand, is wonderful, and the best place to start would be Chelsea Girl.

― Sean, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nico - Christa Paffgen (or Pfaffgen) - was German.

I know two of her albums - Desertshore and The End.

I like them both. They are incredibly doomey, visions into a world of despair. Quite why anyone would enjoy listening to them is unclear, but I do.

James Young's book "Songs They Never Play On The Radio", about being in Nico's last touring band, is one of the best books about music ever written. "Aaare we near the border?"

― DV, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'd put in a vote for 'Desertshore' being one of the best albums of all time. I also love the film, 'La Cicatrice Interieure' by Philippe Garrel, which is basically one long video for the 'Desertshore' album.

Manchester Nico, though, is not for me.

― Momus, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

_Marble Index_ gets my vote. Also be sure to check out the rather harrowing documentary "Nico Icon"

― Chris Barrus, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Just put on Marble Index, Desertshore and The End one after another. There's yer epic trilogy.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

what about Prince Nico Mbarga, from Nigeria, and of "Sweet Mother" fame, or Dr Nico, the guitar player from Zaire? Both better than either of those Euro-Nicos, if you ask me. Oh, you didn't. Sorry....

― pauls00, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

btw, lucky me, I'll be seeing Warhol's rarely-screened epic "The Chelsea Girls" double-projected on the Castro Theater's big screen tomorrow.

― Sean, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

How about the documentary Nico: Icon? "Delon was a swiiiine...he was from a family of sausage makers..he will always be a sausage maker!!!" I love that guy!

― Joe, Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

S.O., film-maker of NICO/ICON was fleeced by the distributor - may have signed a bum rush deal - pity. Dub don't buy?

― , Friday, 12 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's the drum & bass guy for me. I always thought most of the other Nico's rep was by association with the Velvets and Warhol.

― Martin Skidmore, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two years pass...

I love 'these days' even if the main melody reminds me of a RHCP guitar line.

― cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 27 August 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

"Camera Obscura" - horribly dated, yet compelling me to listen again and again.

― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 27 August 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw Nico/Icon not so long ago and was killed by the John Cale performance of Frozen Warnings, alone at a piano. Was this released anywhere? Is their a soundtrack? Bootleg? mp3? Anything? I'm kinda obsessed with finding this right now.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 28 August 2004 07:31 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

Well, I was going to resurrect this thread because I wanted to know if she really was the Ice Goddess of Goth or whatever the hell it was I was going to call her.

But the last post on this thread bothers me in particular. I also really loved the Cale version of "Frozen Warnings" on that documentary, probably more than I've loved anything by Cale, and it's actually very easy to find...if I can just remember how or where. Which I can't right now. I'll have to give it some thought.

― Vinegar and Artichoke Hearts (Bimble...), Sunday, 4 December 2005 04:37 (twenty years ago)

Woah - why is everything in italics?

― Vinegar and Artichoke Hearts (Bimble...), Sunday, 4 December 2005 04:39 (twenty years ago)

FREAKAZOID!!!!!

― Vinegar and Artichoke Hearts (Bimble...), Sunday, 4 December 2005 04:39 (twenty years ago)

Friar hermit stumbles over
The cloudy borderline
Frozen warnings close to mine
Close to the frozen borderline
Frozen warnings close to mine
Close to the frozen borderline

Into numberless reflections
Rises a smile from your eyes into mine
Frozen warnings close to mine
Close to the frozen borderline
Frozen warnings close to mine
Close to the frozen borderline

Over railroad station tracks
Faintly flickers a modest cry
From without a thousand cycles
A thousand cycles to come
A thousand times to win
A thousand ways to run the world
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Friar hermit stumbles over
The cloudy borderline
Frozen warnings close to mine
Close to the frozen borderline
Frozen warnings close to mine
Close to the frozen borderline

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 4 December 2005 04:45 (twenty years ago)

that song is terrifying

― ZR (teenagequiet), Sunday, 4 December 2005 04:56 (twenty years ago)

italics are also terrifying

― ZR (teenagequiet), Sunday, 4 December 2005 04:57 (twenty years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/gypsyfrocksbedlam/nico.jpg

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 4 December 2005 05:40 (twenty years ago)

what happens if i try to italicize?

― petesmith (plsmith), Sunday, 4 December 2005 05:53 (twenty years ago)

― The Great Pagoda of Funn (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 4 December 2005 05:59 (twenty years ago)

test

― The Great Pagoda of Funn (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 4 December 2005 06:00 (twenty years ago)

dude, find out where that song is and I'll finally get around to sending you those Object Music CDs!!!!!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 4 December 2005 06:15 (twenty years ago)

http://s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1BPHQW3QATDAM0E3GQRU9IHQDO

― Soozy Queamcheez (Bimble...), Sunday, 4 December 2005 06:15 (twenty years ago)

Soozy, is your email a Zero Boys reference? 'Cause that would be really cool.

― sleeve (sleeve), Sunday, 4 December 2005 06:59 (twenty years ago)

No it isn't but there's probably something I should know in there somewhere, as I don't think I know the Zero Boys.

― Soozy Queamcheez (Bimble...), Sunday, 4 December 2005 07:08 (twenty years ago)

James Young's book "Songs They Never Play On The Radio", about being in Nico's last touring band, is one of the best books about music ever written. "Aaare we near the border?"

-- DV (dirtyvica...), April 12th, 2002

Yeah. I've just finished reading this and it is hilarious and tragic and very well written. The descriptions of Cale are a hoot.

― Japanese Giraffe (Japanese Giraffe), Sunday, 4 December 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)

it was the double king hit of that book and his biography that made me really hate john cale

― jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Sunday, 4 December 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

In the Siouxsie and the Banshees autobiography, Sioux and Steve describe how John Cale had an assistant do his production work for him on the Rapture album, whilst he sat reading the newspaper.

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Sunday, 4 December 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)

I caught a few of Nico's last gigs in London in the mid-80s, before she moved to Manchester.

There was one - I think at Ronnie Scotts Jazz Club - where some guy kept shouting out "Where's John Cale?". At first she humoured him, saying "Aiii haaaaven't seeeen him in a loooong time" - but he was in the grip of an obsession and continued through the set.

Around the same time (1984 i think), I saw John Cale at the Venue in Victoria. It was a fairly smallish place (now an ASK pizza joint), and up close he looked, in some kind of baggy jump suit, like he had the movements of a old aged pensioner. He looks in better shape these days.

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Sunday, 4 December 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

thanks suzy, is that from the movie? whats with the talking in the beginning? is that how the movie ends? I don't remember.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 4 December 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

anybody get the MARBLE INDEX/DESERTSHORE reissue w/lots of extra tracks (Frozen Borderline or some such)? i love marble index but it's not something you can listen to a lot, i have never heard desertshore but that will soon be fixed....

― gershy, Friday, 9 March 2007 23:46 (nineteen years ago)

I still vote for Nico and I don't care about this reissue thing.

― Alex in SF, Friday, 9 March 2007 23:47 (nineteen years ago)

the reissue stuff is great, i always wanted to hear stripped down harmonium/voice versions of those albums after hearing the paris 72 live versions of frozen warnings/janitor of lunacy, and now i can.

― zappi, Saturday, 10 March 2007 00:06 (nineteen years ago)

Thumbs up from me for Frozen Borderline, although I haven't listened to all the bonus tracks yet. Some of the songs that didn't make the final cut for Marble Index are at least as good as the ones that did.

― Jeff W, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

i just got it at lunch.

― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

got that springtime step in my stride.

― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Anyone in London this weekend...

http://a635.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/51/l_f79f21f6a630a16ca0e2ebb2228a89a2.jpg

They be showing Nico films from about 3pm!

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 30 March 2007 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone know the deal with "I'm not saying"? It's delightfully girl-groupy and upbeat, with Nico singing. Were they trying to market her a la Dusty and Petula?

― molly mummenschanz, Friday, 30 March 2007 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

Andrew Loog Oldham produced it. He tried, it didn't work...

― Display Name, Saturday, 31 March 2007 00:33 (nineteen years ago)

does anyone know if Rhino is planning a US release of The Frozen Borderline?

― nerve_pylon, Saturday, 31 March 2007 00:41 (nineteen years ago)

It's obtainable through Amazon in the US.

― unperson, Saturday, 31 March 2007 00:56 (nineteen years ago)

I love "I'm not saying" so much. She didn't do anything else like it, did she?

― 31g, Saturday, 31 March 2007 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

Oh damnit I still don't have this Frozen Borderline thing yet. Amazon, phamazon, pffft...I'd rather go to the nearby shop and get it there but if they didn't have the new Church album (another import only thing) then they probably won't have this either. Why? BECAUSE THEY'RE SQUARE!

You Londoners are so lucky with the damn films! GRRR...

― Bimble, Saturday, 31 March 2007 01:27 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, Ed Rush is Ben Settle and Nico is Nico (Nicholas) Sykes. I vote for this Nico too.

― dice in my pockets, Saturday, 31 March 2007 05:19 (nineteen years ago)

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