we're almost finished with the year, so i thought i'd jump the gun: having listed *my* top ten singles of the year, i'd like to see what *your* favorites are!
― fred solinger, Monday, 16 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― maura, Monday, 16 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Anyway, wait and see. I don't think I've heard them all yet. And it'd be a devil to restrict them to just 10. But go ahead everyone else!
― Tom, Monday, 16 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Anyway, my top ten so far (and it might well be different *tomorrow*, let alone on 31st December) goes something like this, and remember this in no order whatsoever:
Outkast - Bombs Over Baghdad Kelis - Caught Out There Sisqo - Thong Song Jay-Z featuring UGK - Big Pimpin' Saint Etienne - Heart Failed (In The Back Of A Taxi) Broadcast - Come On Let's Go DMX - Party Up Eminem - The Real Slim Shady Dead Prez - Hip Hop The Beta Band - To You Alone / Sequinsizer
As I said, such a chart as this is, by definition, an of-the-moment affair and should not be held up as anything other than what its compiler thinks *at the precise moment of compiling it*. Nevertheless I'm pretty sure I'll still hold all these in high esteem come my final end-of-year chart / the third focus group / whatever.
― Robin Carmody, Monday, 16 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Kelis - Caught Out There
Outkast - Bombs Over Baghdad
Sisqo - Thong Song
Jay-Z featuring UGK - Big Pimpin'
Saint Etienne - Heart Failed (In The Back Of A Taxi)
Broadcast - Come On Let's Go
DMX - Party Up
Eminem - The Real Slim Shady
Dead Prez - Hip Hop
The Beta Band - To You Alone / Sequinsizer
The following are guaranteed to appear:
Outkast - Bombs Over Baghdad Sisqo - The Thong Song All Saints - Pure Shores Kelis - Caught Out There
These songs are contenders:
Eminem - Stan Britney Spears - Oops I Did It Again Aaliyah - Try Again Fragma - Toca's Miracle Disturbed - Stupify The Beta Band - To You Alone Destiny's Child - Bug A Boo Ghostface Killa - Cher Chez La Ghost Q-Tip - Breathe And Stop Poem-Cees - Sha Sha (of course) Sonique - It Feels So Good Eminem - The Real Slim Shady
If "Optimistic" or "Idioteque" is deemed to be an "official" single off of _Kid A_, those will be guaranteed as well. Alas, no Cure, as "Maybe Someday" is the second worst song on _Bloodflowers_ and aggressively average right up until the last 16 bars, which are genius.
― Dan Perry, Monday, 16 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
...or something like that. "Bombs over Baghdad" is indeed great, but it's also the 4th best song on a disappointing album. It therefore will not make any top ten of mine.
― Kris P. Freely, Monday, 16 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
But...but...but... How can I leave it there?!?! There's so much that should be included!
― Tim, Tuesday, 17 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― April Richardson, Tuesday, 17 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
i'm going to try and locate the top ten songs folks are putting up on here that i haven't heard yet. so far, i've heard "boys" and "hot topic," on maura's list, which i hadn't heard before. both are kind of questionable, and i can go either way on them, but right now, "hot topic" is sounding just a wee bit indie for my ears.
― fred solinger, Tuesday, 17 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― David, Tuesday, 17 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
but at least i didnt include the new bsb song. zzzzzzzz...
oops i did it again it's gonna be me bye bye bye big pimpin forgot about dre jumpin jumpin try again the way i am thong song bomb over baghdad there you go hip hop idioteque dismemberment plan gets rich (i had to squeeze some indie rock on there)
― L-bone, Tuesday, 17 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
dismemberment plan "get rich" ying yang twins "whistle while you twurk" versus "shangri-la" clinic "distortions" clearlake "winterlight" q and not u "washington monument" outkast "b.o.b." blur "music is my radar/black book" (eat it) the wrens "miss me" b/w "this boy is exhausted" les savy fav "rome"
― Brent DiCrescenzo, Tuesday, 17 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Does anyone actually listen to the radio anymore? I thought most stations exist for the sole purpose of being switched off.
Instead, I will name the best shows I've seen this year:
Asian Dub Foundation, Royal Festival Hall Mark Burgess, Great American Music Hall Thingy (or was it Pinback?), Koo's Arts Cafe Oasis, Berkeley Community Theatre The Cure, Irvine Meadows Ampitheatre
...and I'll add Terrastock IV in advance, in that I figure at least a few of the performances will be jawdropping; similarly with the Chameleons' upcoming show in LA. I reserve judgment on Radiohead for when I actually see them on Friday.
I *will* boldly state that any list of the worst singles of the year would have to have Eminem on it somewhere. And I'm not talking about him himself, I think the music eats, Dre trying to convince people he still matters, somehow, somewhere, no really, please believe me, I don't have many good years left, etc. The result is like when Duran Duran had a semi-comeback in 1988 or so, where the moves were the same and there were chart hits but the end result wasn't much. That Eminenya thing was far more amusing in comparison...
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
And David, "Groovejet" in the Top 5? I sincerely hope it's the first and only such instance ...
― Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 17 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
A surprisingly good year. I could easily list a completely different ten songs.
― Otis Wheeler, Tuesday, 17 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Tom, Tuesday, 17 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
robin: well, thanks for the compliment. ;) anyhow, in a year filled with so many gems, you put "heart failed" in the top 10? are you that desperate of a st. et fan? ;) "hip hop" is dull on record, but quite nice live, and "the real slim shady": are we not over that yet? mind, if "stan" becomes a single, and all signs point to yes, it makes the list.
dex: "toca's miracle"?!?!? DISTURBED?!?!?!?!?! nepotism is always nice to see. ;)
kris: do you really think "shake ya ass" is *that* good? and wheatus, green day, *and* slipknot. hmm! care to tell us what your 3 faves on _stankonia_ are?
tim: where to begin with you! that "masterblaster" song is disappointing: stevie's "jammin'" with the "c.r.e.a.m." keyboard line set to a garage beat *sounds* nice, but so does communism. these kids and their garage, i swear. maybe melody maker is on to something. ;)
april: scraping the bottom of the battle with that christina track, aren'tcha? ;)
david: well, you're the only one here, besides myself, sagacious enough to realize a-ha's brilliance. for that, i'll leave you alone. ;)
larmey: bsb puts you to sleep?! and you put 'nsync on your list?! bah! never im me again. ;)
brent: i just can't get beyond pussies farting in "twerk." perhaps i need to hear a radio mix or some such. i remember looking at the rap charts not too long ago and seeing "whistle while you twerk" and "wobble, wobble" at the top and thinking those are the two best titles ever. and they are: a shame about the songs, though. i'd love to hear why you hold the blur single in such high regard.
ned: you're such a wet blanket. at least put in the good word for "go let it out" ;)
otie: i share tom's "american badass"?!?!?!?!? don't get me wrong, i love the kid, but come, come now.
and that's that.
― maura, Tuesday, 17 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
As for the others: Distortions (Clinic); B.O.B. (Outkast); Heart Failed (St. Etienne); American Trilogy (Delgados); Jumpin' Jumpin' (Destiny's Child); I Want You More Than Ever / 6 a.m. Morningside (Clientele); Try Again (Aaliyah); Poodle Rockin' (Gorky's Zygotic Mynci); Come On Let's Go (Broadcast)
― Scott Plagenhoef, Tuesday, 17 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
aaliyah - try again
royal trux - dirty headlines (jagz kooner mix)
peaches - lovertits (mostly 'aa xxx')
white stripes - jolene
queens of the stone age - feelgood hit of the summer (in advance)
destiny's child - say my name
destiny's child - jumpin jumpin
calexico - ballad of cable hogue
eminem - the real slim shady
nebula - clearlight
thankyou very much, goodnight!
― natural bad, Tuesday, 17 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Kris P. Fredkiller, Tuesday, 17 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
I included "Heart Failed" (in a *provisional* list, remember) only because it seemed so frustrating in its brilliance, as though they still had "it" in them, whatever "it" was, but it was becoming thinner and thinner, almost to the point of invisibility. Genius that could mentally torture you, wishing they showed it more often these days, and I do have a penchant for singles that rage against the dying of the light in their creators.
I included "The Real Slim Shady", which sounds tired and overplayed *now*, because *when it's less prominent* it will sound far fresher than it does after these months of overexposure. "Stan" will overtake it when it's released as a UK single in December, though, rest assured.
"Hip Hop" has the best drone production I've heard in years! What are you talking about :)?
Whatever happens, "Try Again" has to be in there.
― Tom, Wednesday, 18 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― L-Bone, Wednesday, 18 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
And to all of the Stan-haters: there are so many wonderful touches to that song! The scribbling noise during the verses, the slowly building mania in the narrative, Eminem's epilogue after the tragedy... It's all good, yo.
― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 18 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― fred solinger, Wednesday, 18 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Anyhow, if we have to be premature ejaculators and discuss this now, I'll toss off a few singles that might make my list. Since it's OCTOBER and a LOT of ALBUMS and SINGLES are slated to come out for CHRISTMAS, like EVERY OTHER YEAR FOR GOD'S SAKE, this list is subject to change, *will* change, and, quite frankly, isn't even in any sort of order. ;P
"Rock DJ", Robbie Williams (or possibly "Kids", I can't decide if I'm sick of that one though); "B.O.B.", OutKast (not having heard the album, I won't comment on whether it's good in context); "Party Up", DMX; "Country Grammar", Nelly; "I'm Like a Bird", Nelly Furtado (is this a single? It's on Radio SonicNet a lot, but I don't know if it's actually a single since they play a lot of album tracks); "Oops, I Did It Again", Britney Spears; "Shape of My Heart", Backstreet Boys; "Big Pimpin'", Jay Z; "Thong Song", Sisqo (a song I could've sworn came out LAST year, but since everyone is including it I will too); "Pure Shores", All Saints; "It Feels So Good", Sonique.
Stuff that I'm less sure about than the stuff above: "Beautiful Day", U2; "Stan", Eminem (immenently overrated, starting to drive me crazy); "She Bangs", Ricky Martin (shut up); "Heart Failed", St. Et (do I like this because it's good, or do I like this because it's the only good track off the first St. Et album I can't bring myself to buy?); "Untitled", D'Angelo; "Independent Women", Destiny's Child (will be much better once Charlie's Angels bombs and they release a remixed version dropping the Angels shout-outs); "Lucky", Britney Spears.
Stuff that you will never see on my list even if a gun was put to my head: Anything besides "Stan", Eminem; anything by Melanie C (what is wrong with you people???); anything by NSync; "Try Again", Aaliyah.
― Ally Kearney, Wednesday, 18 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
future bible heroes -- i'm lonely (and i love it)
saint etienne -- heart failed (in the back of a taxi) [no, i'm not a desperate st et fan. in fact, i've still yet to hear anything from before _sound of water_, of which i am quite fond.)
black cat 13 -- wrist toward the elbow etc
third eye blind -- never let you go
that gandharvas song about the girl who straddles the world like a snake eats its own tail
― sundar subramanian, Wednesday, 18 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Oh, and I can see where Kris' coming from re Outkast. Which is not to say that I've heard the album, but just that I can see being disappointed by it. Their last two, not to mention the first half of Goodie Mob's last, are about as good as hip-hop, hell, music gets in album format.
― Otie Wheeler, Wednesday, 18 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Ally, I can see why you can't bring yourself to buy "Sound of Water"; it's depressing how vague and empty they've become. My purchase of it was a triumph of hope over expectation / reality.
― Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 18 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Kris, there are worse sins in this world than "psychedelic funk", and the vaguely late 60s spaced-out feel to much of "Stankonia" goes some way to endear it to me. But then I'm not familiar with any of their previous work, and maybe it might outstrip it ...
oh, and if the youth's "nevermind (what was it anyway?)" was actually released as a single like it was supposed to be it makes my list as well. so suck on that dicrescenzo.
i really should listen to outkast sometime.
― Josh, Thursday, 19 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
(breathes slowly)
Okay, I'm alright now.
― Tim, Thursday, 19 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Thank you for your reluctant support. I'm glad I'm not the only one who's succumbed to that song's charms. I don't think I'm going to live Gabrielle's "Rise" down after the last pop focus group.
BTW, general question for all: Broadcast - "Come On Let's Go" WHY??? I mean, it's not as awful as "Legal Man", but that's about the only thing in its favor. Okay, and the chord progression in the chorus is cool, but there's no ENERGY in the song at all. It's completely flat and uninspiring.
― Dan Perry, Thursday, 19 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
If it's Outkast albums you want, _Atliens_ is the one to get (though going to napster and downloading "Elevators" and "Wheels of Steel" would be a much more efficient thing to do). Hip hop albums almost always put me to sleep, cause they're SO FUCKING LONG and generally filled with all those stupid skits and intros and bullshit. It's clearly a singles genre, if ever there was one. Kris.
― Kris P., Thursday, 19 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Tom, Friday, 20 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― L-Bone, Friday, 20 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Josh, Friday, 20 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
If SoW is your first Saint Etienne album, though, their first two albums might sound brash and overtly fusionist, and their third might sound too "epic" and ruralist. On the other hand you might love them (I *hope* you do, anyway...) - Sundar, I'd recommend "Foxbase Alpha", "So Tough" and "Tiger Bay" unreservedly.
― Robin Carmody, Friday, 20 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
you want ten? that could be tough. some of these might have been 1999, but i bought them this year. so ner.
these are in the order in which i think of them. thus, they are tilted towards what i've been listening to lately and, therefore, are strew around my room.
twist - i am kloot overload - the sugarbabes the foolishness we create through love is the closest we come to greatness - airport girl* don't falter - mint royale with lauren laverne be my postman - the chemistry experiment** said and done - kicker do or die - the super furry animals the great beyond - rem music for girls - baxendale ***
* not released until the end of october, but it's the best jumpy-up- and-down-y indiepop record ever ** i'm in the band, so i'm bias. but i think it's fab. *** don't think it's even been released as a single, but it's great and i first heard it in this mighty milennial year.
― f., Friday, 20 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Ally, Tuesday, 24 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
[BTW, general question for all: Broadcast - "Come On Let's Go" WHY??? I mean, it's not as awful as "Legal Man", but that's about the only thing in its favor. Okay, and the chord progression in the chorus is cool, but there's no ENERGY in the song at all. It's completely flat and uninspiring.]
It's the lack of energy that's the clincher for me. One man's flat and uninspiring is another's detached and achingly languid. Sod innovation, more enervation, that's what I want.
― Michael Jones, Thursday, 26 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Megan Sullins, Sunday, 26 November 2000 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Jesus H. Ramone, I am fucking STUNNED. Now I'm not one of those "Sleater-Kinney is the greatest rock band in the world and if you disagree you're a corporate tool of the Billboard charts" elitists, but DAMN. Blather all you want about 'great pop hooks' and 'catchy this' and 'danceable that', but my god, people! Agh! You might as well cram a 'best films of the 1970s' list with a load of Dino DeLaurentiis garbage. Anyhow. Here's my list. So far. In no particular order. Proceed to bitch. I don't care. DMX still fucking sucks. And "Stankonia" is the best album of the year, HA.
*Titan, "1,2,3,4" (They're not from Brighton. They're from MEXICO. And they still had a better album ['Elevator'] than Mr. Norman Cook...) *Fatboy Slim, "Drop the Hate" (...though they wouldna' if all the tracks from Halfway Between were this goddamned jump-up-and-freak-out- tastic.) *Blackalicious, "If I May" (Mystikal can try to Xerox Curtis Mayfield's falsetto all he wants- but Gift of Gab's the one that can actually emulate his *soul*.) *Papas Fritas, "Way You Walk" (I keep trying to place it in the context of a specific area, but I can't tell if it sounds '60s, '70s, '80s, or what. Maybe I'm reluctant to just stick it in the here and now because it works better as pop than any other song I've heard this year and may ever hope to hear in a while.) *Air, "Dead Bodies" (The percussion alone broke my jaw.) *De La Soul feat. 2/3 of the Beastie Boys, "Squat" (The creators of the two best hip-hop records of 1989- together at last.) *Elastica, "Generator" (Britney doesn't get me horny, but Justine Frischman does. Even my hormones crave the talented over the 'pretty'.) *Outkast, "Ms. Jackson" (OK, so I put 'B.O.B.' on more mixtapes, but this one's just got more to it, lyrically and melodically and FUNK-EH- ly..) *Roni Size and Reprazent, "Railing Pt. 2" (Best sequel since 'Empire Strikes Back'.) *BT feat. M. Doughty, "Never Gonna Come Back Down" (If "Firestarter" was "Search and Destroy", this is "Life During Wartime". Or some other stupid analogy. Whatever. It just rocks out, OK? Can I just say that instead?)
That's that. Feel free to flame me for my decisions. Or, if you're not compelled to, then flame me for the fact I like Radiohead more than teenypop.
― Nate Patrin, Wednesday, 6 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Michael Bourke, Thursday, 7 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
add bon jovi's "it's my life" to my list too. tommy and gina return!
― sundar subramanian, Sunday, 10 December 2000 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― sundar subramanian, Monday, 15 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Did he?
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 28 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
'Going Blind' - The Go-Betweens 'Slender single/Carcrash EP' - Tompaulin 'Groovejet' - Spiller 'American Trilogy' - The Delgados 'Actually It's Darkness' - Idlewild 'U.G.L.Y' - Daphne and Celeste 'Good Fruit' - Hefner 'Tucahoe' - Tacoma Radar 'Up With People' - Lambchop and yes, even 'Legal Man' - Belle and Sebastian
Special runner-up prizes to the singles by Airport Girl and Teenage Fanclub, I think.
― Ally C, Friday, 2 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link