Bands that containt internal "I want to rock" v. "I want to experiment" turmoil

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Rocket from the Tombs (which later lead to the formation of The Dead Boys and Pere Ubu)
Styx - Dennis DeYoung against the other guy
Hawkwind kind of, with Lemmy leaving to rock in Motorhead.

Others?

― filthy dylan, Saturday, 28 April 2007 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

Genesis, going by their slow slide into MOR after Peter Gabriel left.
Mercury Rev? They certainly got a bit more normal after David Baker was kicked out. That could have just been general turmoil though.

― Matt #2, Saturday, 28 April 2007 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

that new white stripes song

― negotiable, Saturday, 28 April 2007 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

Is this thread about Luke Campbell?

― PappaWheelie V, Saturday, 28 April 2007 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

Flavor Flav vs. Chuck D

― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 28 April 2007 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

Velvet Underground, especially during the 1993 reunion. Cale wanted to experiment, Lou wanted to rock, particularly on MTV unplugged.

― kornrulez6969, Saturday, 28 April 2007 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

olivia tremor control: bill doss VS will c hart

― lucas pine, Saturday, 28 April 2007 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

beatles. that stockhausen dude -vs- that teddy boy dude

― scott seward, Saturday, 28 April 2007 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

Ringo was crazy for Stockhausen, it's true.

― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 28 April 2007 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

Wire, circa '81? Newman ("I want to song"?) versus Lewis/Gilbert.

The Coltrane quartet, '65; Trane/Garrison versus back-to-the-mainstream Jones/Tyner.

(Could also insert tasteless Nirvana joke here.)

― mark 0, Saturday, 28 April 2007 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Spirit seemed to be split between guys that wanted to be big rock stars and others were jazzers. That kind of manic split between their material makes them sound like two different bands, which is one of the charms of their records looking back, but I think it might have been one reason they never turned into a huge popular group.

The jazz fusion/experimental edge of Soft Machine took completely over from the psych pop side of the group one member at a time.

― earlnash, Saturday, 28 April 2007 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

OK Computer!

― Finefinemusic, Saturday, 28 April 2007 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

Pavement?

Seems like this could be said about any band having more than one songwriter really.

― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 28 April 2007 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

Genesis, going by their slow slide into MOR after Peter Gabriel left.

The turmoil was still very much present after Gabriel left too. It was Tony Banks and Steve Hackett Vs. Phil Collins and Mike Rutherford. When Hackett left, the Hackett/Collins side became the majority and "won".

― Geir Hongro, Saturday, 28 April 2007 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

Does Blur fit into this btw? I know there were artistic differences between Damon Albarn and Graham Coxon, but I'm not quite certain exactly what they were about. I think Coxon was the one who wanted to rock harder, Damon Albarn wanted to do something completely different, whereas Alex James was probably the one member most content with the Britpop style.

Plus there's always Manic Street Preachers with politics (Nicky Wire) vs. catchiness (James Dean Bradfield) and there also used to be Richey James who did to some extent represent art.

Also, there was The Verve, with Richard Ashcroft being the one who wanted to rock while Nick McCabe wanted to experiment more.

― Geir Hongro, Saturday, 28 April 2007 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

Limp Bizkit (Durst vs. weirdo guitarist guy)

The Police (Sting's pretentious wannabe jazzman act vs. the rest of the band, which seems to be manifesting itself in their reunion already)

― Alex in Baltimore, Sunday, 29 April 2007 00:04 (nineteen years ago)

Sloan. The subtle tension between wanting to experiment with Big Star-esque pop or wanting to rock out with Bad Company has been a constant in their career.

― I eat cannibals, Sunday, 29 April 2007 01:32 (nineteen years ago)

Rolling Stones in the 60s: Brian Jones wanted to experiment, the rest of the band wanted to rock.

― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 29 April 2007 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

The Hong Kong Cavaliers - Any time on stage was obviously taking away from valuable lab time...

― shieldforyoureyes, Sunday, 29 April 2007 06:09 (nineteen years ago)

Could we sbstitute the verb "rock" for the verb "Coldplay", and possibly the verb "experiment" for the verb "rock"?

― Scik Mouthy, Sunday, 29 April 2007 07:08 (nineteen years ago)

At The Drive-In. Hence their split, the rockdudes forming Sparta and Omar and Cedric going experimental with The Mars Volta.

― Marty Innerlogic, Sunday, 29 April 2007 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

The Who. Daltrey hated synths (despite "Baba O'Riley" being one of his favorite Who songs), and Entwistle just wanted to rock, but Townshend often kept them waiting while he figured out whatever his new grand concept was gonna be.

But it's complicated. Sometimes the experimentation begat the rocking (most of Who's Next and Quadrophenia); sometimes the rocking begat the experimentation ("Anyway Anyhow Anywhere," "My Generation"); and sometimes they ignored the distinction (everything Keith Moon ever played).

― Standing In The Shadows Of Bob, Sunday, 29 April 2007 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Meshuggah though I am not a fan at all.

― NYCNative, Sunday, 29 April 2007 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

Roxy Music

― babyalive, Sunday, 29 April 2007 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

Of course, the most artistic of all the Who members was Keith Moon. But the main outlet for his artisticness was hotel rooms rather than the stage or studio.

― Geir Hongro, Monday, 30 April 2007 07:56 (nineteen years ago)

Busted

― Groke, Monday, 30 April 2007 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

Ride

― badg, Monday, 30 April 2007 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

brianwilsonmikeloveyouknowthedeal

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 30 April 2007 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

Um, Sex Pistols maybe? (Tho I really don't have a clue just why they broke up.)

― Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

Mainly because they wanted to experiment, but not necessarily with music.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

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