The FAC73 NewOrder Poll (Closing 25-May-2007)

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So is it Blue Monday or not?

Poll Results

Option	Votes
No, I like at least another, better.	34
Blue Monday, in its myriad remixes and versions	4

― Mark G, Thursday, 17 May 2007 10:25 (nineteen years ago)

I think I do actually prefer Temptation, I know, I am mad.

― Masonic Boom, Thursday, 17 May 2007 10:27 (nineteen years ago)

Or that early one that starts with the great bass hook. Oh, I know they all have a great bass hook. But you know, *that* one. I think it might be Ceremony? "I'll break them down, no mercy shown, heaven knows it's got to be this time" or however it goes. Is that Ceremony?

― Masonic Boom, Thursday, 17 May 2007 10:28 (nineteen years ago)

yes, their first one, was written by Ian.

― Mark G, Thursday, 17 May 2007 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

'Temptation' by a country mile.

― baaderonixx, Thursday, 17 May 2007 10:32 (nineteen years ago)

OK, then I'm glad I voted for Temptation instead.

Though Bizarre Love Triangle... argh! Wait, which thread are we discussing this on?

I love Blue Monday but it's not my favourite. Top five, I'm sure, but not favourite.

― Masonic Boom, Thursday, 17 May 2007 10:33 (nineteen years ago)

There is another New Order single I prefer to all other singles ever made by anyone else.

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 17 May 2007 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

temptation > blue monday

― Alan, Thursday, 17 May 2007 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

in terms of the HUGE impact it had on 13-year-old me, along with tainted love, it's very hard not to pick BM.

but...true faith! BLT! temptation! EGG! Thieves! Ugh.

― CharlieNo4, Thursday, 17 May 2007 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

Mmm, lunchtime, I've got a BLT temptation. Better watch out for those dastardly egg thieves though.

― ledge, Thursday, 17 May 2007 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

"Temptation" is an order of magnitude better than "Blue Monday".

― HI DERE, Thursday, 17 May 2007 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

Keeping this one up!

― Mark G, Thursday, 17 May 2007 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

"Temptation" is an order of magnitude better than "Blue Monday".

whyhow?

― blueski, Thursday, 17 May 2007 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

I've actually never liked Blue Monday. I understand that it is one of the biggest singles ever to walk the face of the planet and I don't begrudge people for liking it. It just doesn't effect me one way or the other for some reason.

― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

"Blue Monday" is a one-night stand; "Temptation" is the one you marry.

― HI DERE, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

you're saying 'Blue Monday' is too much style over substance? not because of it's heavier electronic edge i hope!

― blueski, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

"Blue Monday" is style over substance because it is essentially a Casio demo!

― HI DERE, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

I vote "The Beach" but hey..

― Mark G, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

"Blue Monday" is style over substance because it is essentially a Casio demo!

you're relegating an awful lot of great monotonous electronic pop with this claim

― blueski, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

Obviously not as good as REAL music being played on REAL instruments with SOUL, PASSION and HONESTY at the time, e.g. "Fields Of Fire (400 Miles)" by Big Country.

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

i never liked blue monday either really

― 696, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

Don't be dense, Steve.

― HI DERE, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

tell it to my ten year old self harvard boy!

― blueski, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

In an interview for Channel 4's countdown of the biggest selling UK singles, the band claimed to have written the song in response to crowd disappointment at the fact that they never played encores. This song, they say, allowed them to return to the stage, press play on a synthesizer and leave the stage again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Monday_%28New_Order_song%29

― HI DERE, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

"In 2001, a remix about Captain Jean-Luc Picard from Star Trek: The Next Generation entitled "The Picard Song" sampled New Order's Blue Monday in parts."

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― 696, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

What, is that up there with "Bernard Sumner has been known to demand HEN FAP" ?

― Masonic Boom, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

ooh that legendary Mancunian wit. 'blue monday' as a song could've sounded more like 'temptation' and presumably this was the original intention. i would argue the techno-ization of it doesn't necessarily elevate it but does transport it elsewhere resulting in this piece arguably keener to explore sonic ideas rather than deliver it's message(s) in perhaps the way that 'best' befits them - but i don't see that as to it's detriment. maybe 'temptation' just has a better message but i don't see the advantage as standout there either. it's got a more evident euphoric element which does count for a lot but the contrasts on display in 'blue monday' (gloomy lyrics but always sounds great on dancefloors) can surely match that too.

then again 'Blue Monday (DMC mix)' IS one of the worst things ever and i say that as someone who loves a lot of sample-loaded megamixy nonsense.

― blueski, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost x2)

― blueski, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

There's that scene in Twenty-Four Hour Party People in which New Order play an embryonic version of "Blue Monday" as an folk ballad.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

yes, but that was - like so much of 24HPP - an in-joke designed to appeal to factory anoraks like me and absolutely nobody else in the world.

temptation ... it's just so vast in scope. whereas blue monday is very much the sum of its parts (sequencer, sequencer, sequencer, drum machine, sequencer, bass ... last-minute vocal to replace the electronic one they lost (apparently)), temptation transcends everything. it can, and on a couple of very embarrassing occasions has, make me laugh, cry and dance, all at the same time. (i'm still not sure if i came up with that line or if i stole it from someone else.)

i also think it's improved with age: as i said somewhere else, my favourite version of all time is the live one on "retro" with chump-boy, not gillian, playing on it. but the original 7" is where it all began, and i couldn't in all conscience vote for anything else.

― grimly fiendish, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

(I like "Blue Monday" but it isn't their best single.)

― HI DERE, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Phil's not a chump. I wish Gill was still in the band, but he's alright, is Phil.

― Dr.C, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

I actually like "Procession" best, best "Temptation" and "Ceremony" are fab-u-lous.

― deedeedeextrovert, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

What original 7"?

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

Oh sorry, you mean "Temptation." Something of genius in the way the 12" fades in at the exact point where the 7" fades out.

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

Phil's not a chump.

sorry, yes. that's unfair of me. he's become a focus for all my "what the fuck is this tedious guitar-heavy not-really-new-order bollocks?" rage and loathing, but i appreciate that's not fair at all: the other three are, after all, far more to blame for that!

hellfire, i even quite liked a couple of marion songs.

I wish Gill was still in the band, but he's alright, is Phil.

er, are any of them still in the band? :)

xpost: yes!

― grimly fiendish, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

wish they'd done different lyrics for the 12", but hey.

― grimly fiendish, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

"oh you've got mauve eyes, oh you've got taupe eyes, oh you've got tartan eyes..."

― Mark G, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

"and i've frequently met people like you before ..."

― grimly fiendish, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

― Mark G, Friday, 18 May 2007 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

The only purpose for Blue Monday's existence at this point is for the poor young souls who have yet to hear it. But my guess is that even to these folks, it will be redundant and unremarkable pretty soon.

― Bimble, Saturday, 19 May 2007 03:36 (nineteen years ago)

Did I run this too long?

― Mark G, Monday, 21 May 2007 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

24 yrs ago Blue Monday. 24 yrs before that, Buddy Holly "It Doesnât Matter Anymore" was a UK number 1. just saying like.

― Alan, Monday, 21 May 2007 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

and this!

― Mark G, Thursday, 24 May 2007 07:26 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, so Blue Monday gets four 'top' votes.

Even allowing for those that voted "Temptation" in the other poll that would have voted "BM" if it had been there, that's a low rating.

Hmm. So, was that an interesting variation on a poll? Did it "work"?

(You tell me, it's not a rhetorical q)

― Mark G, Friday, 25 May 2007 07:12 (nineteen years ago)

It worked, babe.

― Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 25 May 2007 07:22 (nineteen years ago)

Real good. Let's keep in touch.

― baaderonixx, Friday, 25 May 2007 07:54 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm. So, was that an interesting variation on a poll? Did it "work"?

yep. efficient. logical. effective. and practical. using all resources to the best of our ability.

that reminds me. must do an OMD poll.

― grimly fiendish, Friday, 25 May 2007 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

oops I forgot to vote in this. I would've voted YES BLUE MONDAY IS THE BEST.

― Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 26 May 2007 03:12 (nineteen years ago)

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