Quick! When Was The Last Time You Listened To The Lion And The Cobra?

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I just put it on and the kids immediately started going crazy and then they started eating paper.

scott seward, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

Antmusic survived and evolved in strange guises.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

About a year ago. Great album!

Tim F, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

PUT'EM ON PUT'EM ON PUT'EM ON ME

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

"Antmusic survived and evolved in strange guises."

thank god. wish some of it was around now.

scott seward, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

best kevin mooney interview:

http://www.geocities.com/antliberationfront/features/mooney.html


he's my hero.

scott seward, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

yay for Marco Pirroni

curmudgeon, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

Couple of years ago. Should do so again. I stand by my claim on a Sinead thread on here that "Jackie" might just be the best opening to an album ever.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

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scott seward, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

oops

scott seward, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

yes, jackie is the ultimate opener!

scott seward, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

What a curious album. The arrangements are of-their-time yet point to some future synthesis of Kate Bush, Peter Gabriel, Yeats, and Yoko that never happened.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

I have this on vinyl! I love it so much. There's one song I don't like - I can't remember which one - but the rest are great. It's probably been about two years though.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's "Drink Before the War"

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

i love drink before the war! it just played. so over the top. i like just call me joe, but it's probably my least fave. and oddly deflating after what has come before.

scott seward, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

The arrangements are of-their-time yet point to some future synthesis of Kate Bush, Peter Gabriel, Yeats, and Yoko that never happened.


Good way to putting it -- it's a very historically situated recording that still feels out of place.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

"Jackie" is so amazing... But so are "Mandinka" and "Jerusalem" and "Just Like You Said It Would Be". Her voice was so insane at this point.

Tim F, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

anybody own the troy 12 inch with the great b-side that i can't think of the title of right now? i have to find that. it's here somewhere. along with my mc lyte/sinead 12 inch.

scott seward, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

Jerusalem is so massive it's terrifying!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

I think when I was a teenager I wrote some of the lyrics to Jerusalem on my jean jacket... IN RUNES

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't listened to this album in years because this is one of the ones that John bought when we in high school building our seperate-but-equal CD collections. It's fucking incredible, though.

HI DERE, Thursday, 17 May 2007 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

Wow...haven't listened to this in at least 15 years or so, and I'm stunned at how not-dated it sounds. Plus the flooding back of memories from high school romance dramas...

"Jackie" as ultimate opener...otm.

Sara Sara Sara, Thursday, 17 May 2007 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'd KILL A DRAGON FOR YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

sexyDancer, Thursday, 17 May 2007 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Sometime in the past year for me, too. I can't describe how disappointed I was with the follow-up, Prince just ruined her.

Mr. Odd, Thursday, 17 May 2007 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

You have an apt username.

HI DERE, Thursday, 17 May 2007 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Rummaging around on YouTube recently, I found some live performances of "Troy" which made me go back and listen to TLATC and it really is as exceptional an album as I remembered.

Lostandfound, Thursday, 17 May 2007 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

Here's one.

Lostandfound, Thursday, 17 May 2007 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

She scares me.

Lostandfound, Thursday, 17 May 2007 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

god, lion and the cobra and then jump in the river and then nothing compares 2 u...you could see why some of else felt like she would rule the cosmos forever.

i remember EXACTLY where i was when i first heard the lion and the cobra. what the room was like! and who was there! it's far enough away now that i don't get that punch-in-the-stomach of memory/nostalgia when i play it. it still sounds so good.

scott seward, Thursday, 17 May 2007 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

At that point in time, she might well have been better than we thought she was.

It's funny, though -- I did get that nostalgia punch, scott, dunno why.

Lostandfound, Thursday, 17 May 2007 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

Not to mention "I Am Stretched On Your Grave"!

Tim F, Thursday, 17 May 2007 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

Great album (and fun thread). I know I've listened to "Troy" at least in the past six months, probably been a couple years since I heard the whole thing. Time to fix that I think. One of the best debuts of all time for sure.

Mark Rich@rdson, Thursday, 17 May 2007 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

six months pass...

oh man i got this tape for christmas when i was eight, so i probably havent heard it for 15 years!

69, Saturday, 17 November 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

"Jerusalem / ye-ROOOOOOOOOOO-salem"

omg is it rly tru r u srly a woodpecker taptaptaptaptaptaptaptaptap (Stevie D), Friday, 17 September 2010 03:14 (fifteen years ago)

three years pass...

listening to this now
sounds really contemporary to me for some reason
what a voice

ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 August 2014 20:20 (eleven years ago)

love this album

SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 August 2014 20:25 (eleven years ago)

It always sounds contemporary. The first album of the 90s IMO (I may have said this before).

Tim F, Monday, 18 August 2014 21:54 (eleven years ago)

oh shit i need to listen to this right now

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 18 August 2014 22:22 (eleven years ago)

Hearing the one-two punch of Sinead and then The Sugarcubes was so cool -- very rich time for breaking new ground -- these are two of the groups that made the 80s so extraordinary -- not friggin' Hall & Oates and Dexy's Midnight Runners.

bodacious ignoramus, Monday, 18 August 2014 22:59 (eleven years ago)

It's no secret I'm an 80s nostalgist/apologist, but if you're trying to separate an example of groundbreaking music from regressive terrible music, you could've done far far worse than Hall & Oates and Dexys.

Everyone's a closet ned. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 18 August 2014 23:07 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHNUrPzQYaw

this song forever

SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 August 2014 23:11 (eleven years ago)

why do I always think this was on Lion & Cobra

sorry

dur

anyway it's a good video :/

SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 August 2014 23:32 (eleven years ago)

no doubt, Johnny, you could do a lot worse. I was trying to illustrate how I feel the best of the 80s lies in the more original new sounds that was coming out of people like the Bunnymen, the Pixies and much more. Hell, you could argue that REM was a bit regressive but they still managed to make it sound like they were always breaking new ground (at least for most of their 80s releases).

But back to the original focus of the thread -- When "Lion and the Cobra" came-a-knocking, she blew the friggin doors off.

bodacious ignoramus, Monday, 18 August 2014 23:34 (eleven years ago)

it's an insanely great album, but it's crazier when it hits you that holy shit this was her first album. one punch, KO. done. awesome.

SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 August 2014 23:37 (eleven years ago)

at age 19 iirc

Dokken played here for a Ribfest and people were total assholes (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 18 August 2014 23:58 (eleven years ago)

Great album, if I never listen to anything else by Sinead (and I don't plan to), I'll happily give this one a spin for the rest of my days

Dokken played here for a Ribfest and people were total assholes (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 18 August 2014 23:59 (eleven years ago)

it's always been my go-to Sinead

SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 00:36 (eleven years ago)

one punch ko, yes.

a series of sleeps (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 02:31 (eleven years ago)

Very strong memory of seeing "Mandinka" on 120 Minutes and me and my freshman dorm hall buddies debating whether she was hot because she was bald or in spite of.

Great, odd record. Much harder to pin down than anything she did after, even though I love the second album too.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 02:48 (eleven years ago)

Saw her on the "I Do Not Want" tour, and she closed with a shattering, epic rendition of "Troy" that remains one of my most indelible live-music experiences. What a song.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 02:51 (eleven years ago)

no doubt, Johnny, you could do a lot worse. I was trying to illustrate how I feel the best of the 80s lies in the more original new sounds that was coming out of people like the Bunnymen, the Pixies and much more.

if you think these are original

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 02:56 (eleven years ago)

I love the thick, tremeloed electric rhythm guitar on this record.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 02:57 (eleven years ago)

i love the way her voice just surrounds you; voice as instrument, 100%

SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 03:25 (eleven years ago)

And it's still so unpolished on this album -- I read somebody once describing young Billie Holiday as sounding like a "bright new penny," and Sinead has some of that here. She has this fearsome clarity that she doesn't know how to finesse yet, it just pours out of her.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 03:41 (eleven years ago)

if you think these are original

to my ears, in the day, I had heard nothing like them -- you can't un-hear that even if you later find it was a rip-off of something released years before. Stone Roses is another prime example; yes all those elements had been recorded before, but it's the way you mix it together and the timing of it's release that defines it's impact. All the examples I list were a whole new thing to me at the time and it made for a very exciting period of record buying. You may have been at 30-thousand feet lording down upon the whole of musical battlefield, but I was on the ground and in the trenches.

bodacious ignoramus, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 19:34 (eleven years ago)


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