In praise of "TV Stars" by the skids!

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So, this was the b-side of "Into the Valley" and you heard it on John Peel if you hadn't bought the single.

But what the hell was R.Jobson talking about on the preamble?

And then Stuart "I bet Mark Lamarr doesn't use that "Big Country Member" joke anymore" Adamson launches into another song at the end

and then the record fades.

It was still the rule back then that if a live track was issued on a single, they had to say "Goodnight" at the end. Like it was the last track.

Mark G, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 13:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"But what the hell was R.Jobson talking about on the preamble?"

Like most of the lyrics to the song it was a reference to characters in Coronation Street past and present, specifically Eddie Yates and Stanley Ogden, hence: "Eddie's tammy Stanley's chamois"

As I recall, when The Skids played Reading Uni. around that time (were you there Mark? Doc?) they had evidently asked around beforehand and had recruited one of the more prominent members of the local punk crowd (Pete Judd, 6' 10" lead vocalist of local heroes Zerox) to join them onstage for that number, and chant the names of various local reprobates (including that of one Eddie Snide) instead of those of the Coronation Street cast, changing the chorus somewhat awkwardly from "Albert Tatlock" to "Reading Pu-unks"

Stewart Osborne, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 14:36 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Great, but I was (also) meaning the chat bit "yeee bit powwa politic for you todeahhhh"

or summat!

No, I missed the Skids there.

Mark G, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 14:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I'd forgotten that bit.... I don't reckon I've played that song for about 25 years!

Stewart Osborne, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 14:43 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Me neither! Why it suddenly re-entered my brane, I can't explain.

Mark G, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 14:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Oh God, "TV Stars". The vicious meathead "real man" bar lout crowd in my residence hall in my first year of Uni (1980-81) adopted this as their anthem, and blasted it out of their rooms, morning noon and night, for the whole year. ALBERT! TATLOCK! was their war cry. How we shuddered.

I'd liked it up until then, as well.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 15:19 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I used to be quite fond of The Skids but for some reason I feel absolutely no inclination to revisit them now. Perhaps I should, although I can't imagine their pomp and bombast has aged particularly gracefully.

Stewart Osborne, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 15:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I used to have a bit of a thing about The Skids, and have all their singles from The Saints Are Coming to Iona - but similarly, I have no desire to exhume them.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 15:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

and they're worth nowt on e-bay.

Mark G, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 15:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

That last Skids album is extraordinary. Avant-garde Big Country a year before the actual Big Country. If it had come out on Domino Records in 1994 it would now be hailed as a classic.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 15:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

The last Skids album was without Stuart, wasn't it?

Mark G, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 15:35 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Marc, surely you could clue us in with that talking bit!

Mark G, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 15:36 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Even I can't remember it verbatim, and I once "sang" it with Raw Deal. That was nigh on thirty years ago, mind.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 15:40 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I can't quite make it all out.

"This is, this is the political part. We do not speak (?) politics to you today! OK, cheers. Albert Tatlock, but we're fucking tired of it..."

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:20 (eleven years ago) Permalink

(Had also forgotten "Sweet Suburbia", which extends my Skids collection a little further back. Everything after "Charles", in that case.)

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Brilliant! thanks!

Mark G, Thursday, 24 May 2007 07:29 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Hey that Skids gig was in my first week of Uni! I was there!

I hadn't listened to them for years until a few weeks ago when I saw the newest best of for £3 in Fopp. I picked it up since I don't have the albums any more, and it's surprisingly great! I'd forgotten about the likes of Circus Games, Charade etc completely. I have never knowingly heard 'Charles' before.

Dr.C, Thursday, 24 May 2007 08:11 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Also, if they were 'gettin sick of it' while recording it for the b-side, imagine how sick of it they were by the time they played Reading Uni and beyond!

Mark G, Thursday, 24 May 2007 08:31 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"Charles" was released on some Scottish indie label (No Bad?) before they signed to Virgin and as such may well be the only one of their records that's actually worth a few quid. The other tracks on it were "Reasons" and their other rather silly song "Test Tube Babies" - which John Peel also played quite a few times iirc.

Stewart Osborne, Thursday, 24 May 2007 08:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Nope. Tried selling it on e-bay, opening bid £3. Not a sausage.

Mark G, Thursday, 24 May 2007 08:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink

OK, here's an tale I told a while back, but this seems a good place to replay!

Great moments explained : How the sex pistols got to play Johnny B goode that time...

How they got Johnny Rotten to sing that version of Johnny B goode.

Mark G, Thursday, 24 May 2007 09:03 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I played "Iona" last night; it sounded like a post-punk "Sailing"/"Mull of Kintyre". Can't say I warmed to it, but then I do have unresolved Bagpipe Issues.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 24 May 2007 09:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Don't drag us into your private hell!

"Fields," the single prior to "Iona," had EVERY radio DJ scratching their heads in a WTF sense.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 24 May 2007 09:20 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Wasn't it the "Iona" promo where they were going to have a big bask in the hebrides, and John Peel really wanted to go, but felt honour bound not to as he hated the single so much?

Mark G, Thursday, 24 May 2007 09:45 (eleven years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Actually, I remember now:

He got an invite to a press launch in the outer hebrides, and was all prepared to go (or was at least very tempted), only to find it was Virgin Marketing's idea of a joke, and it wasn't true.

Yeah, how to get your record played!

Mark G, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...

Oh, do you lot remember "Sweet Surburbia" which had a "weird gimmic", but no-one knew what it was?

Apparently, the edge of the record was razor sharp, and was supposed to wear out the sleeve from the inside.

TATLOCKGoodnight!

Mark G, Friday, 26 September 2008 10:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

So how many names on this single are even remembered thesedays?

Mark G, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 15:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ena Sharples!

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 15:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

David Hunter!

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 16:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

Meg Mortimer! Stanley Ogden! ALBERT TATLOCK! ALBERT TATLOCK!

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 16:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

Johnn? PEEL!

Mark G, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 16:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

Sandy Richardson!

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 16:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

Annie Walker!

I was thinking of this a few months back when there was a splodgenessabounds/"punk pathetique" thread, wondering if it owed anything to this song. But if it was a meathead anthem then I guess they were very separate scenes.

(itt a not-quite-young person tries to make sense of different times)

canna kirk (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 16:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Now, here's a thing...

Note that I had the "Charles" single for sale on e-bay a few years ago, not one bid.

I look on popsike, there's people having won auctions for £100, £29 and £19 ...

Now, I look on e-bay proper, one sold recently for £3.50 which is what I'd expect.

So, what of the three I mentioned above? Are they all fakey bidders? Somebody trying to get popsike to list them as 'pricey things' by fake-bidding their own?

Mark G, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:40 (five years ago) Permalink

This track is a classic, of course!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 6 December 2012 03:30 (five years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

And now, "Scared to dance" has come out as a three-CD deluxe edition.

Cd1 the album plus singles etc.

Cd2 early demos

CD3 HAS THE LIVE GIG THAT THAT TV STARS WAS TAKEN FROM!

Ahem. Hray.

Mark G, Friday, 29 December 2017 23:01 (five months ago) Permalink

Will check out but the big box set that came out last year satisfied my Skids needs.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 30 December 2017 03:26 (five months ago) Permalink

It was still the rule back then that if a live track was issued on a single, they had to say "Goodnight" at the end. Like it was the last track.

― Mark G, Wednesday, May 23, 2007 1:08 PM (ten years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Funny thing is, he doesn't say "Goodnight" (or, to be more precise, "ALBERTTATLOCKGoodnight" - its a sly edit/overdub taken from his actual farewell two songs later.

Mark G, Saturday, 30 December 2017 23:30 (five months ago) Permalink


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