Has this never been done before? I might say "Smile" today.
― Amanda Hugankiss, Thursday, 24 May 2007 19:37 (nineteen years ago)
Tempo House. Best Fall song ever.
― Garrett Martin, Thursday, 24 May 2007 19:41 (nineteen years ago)
"smile" on the album, but really the answer is the peel sessions v. of "garden," which is possibly my single fave fall jam ever.
― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 24 May 2007 19:43 (nineteen years ago)
eat y'self, fitter
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 24 May 2007 19:45 (nineteen years ago)
"HOTEL BLOEDEL!!"
Wot, no luv 4 brixxx??
But shit, pretty perfect album, huh?
― Manalishi, Thursday, 24 May 2007 19:49 (nineteen years ago)
Peel Session of "Garden" is correct. Gives me chills.
― Jon Lewis, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:14 (nineteen years ago)
This is the worst of the early Fall albums for me. It's plodding and the songwriting is not of the quality of what they did before or after.
― Tim Ellison, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:16 (nineteen years ago)
And, you know, they took a major step away from this with The Wonderful and Frightening World of the Fall.
― Tim Ellison, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:17 (nineteen years ago)
I conflate PBL with its Peel Session and two concurrent singles in my mind (and on my mp3 player), and then it becomes awesome. But I kind of know what you're saying.
― Jon Lewis, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:19 (nineteen years ago)
this one is weird to me - sometimes i think it's their most consistently good record, but there's nothing on it that's in the same league as the highs of grotesque or slates (my personal a+#1 stretch). even "garden," i never really got into that one until i heard the peel version. the performances sound a little too mannered, maybe?
― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:19 (nineteen years ago)
Also: really ugly cover - jeez.
― Tim Ellison, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:22 (nineteen years ago)
I prefer the video version
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:25 (nineteen years ago)
the appeal of pbl is not about quality songwriting
― Edward III, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:25 (nineteen years ago)
there are no highs but it is deep
― Edward III, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:26 (nineteen years ago)
seconded.
Tim, what you call plodding, some call repetition, and you know what we say about repetition?
― dan selzer, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:27 (nineteen years ago)
we dig it we dig it we dig it we dig it
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:28 (nineteen years ago)
it is about the mutability of time and moving things with yr mind
― Edward III, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:28 (nineteen years ago)
tim ellison is making the dutch weep in four languages
― Edward III, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:29 (nineteen years ago)
at least
I know it's repetition, but the stuff is so dull!
― Tim Ellison, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:29 (nineteen years ago)
mushy pen.
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:30 (nineteen years ago)
you should see the manager.
panic all over
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:31 (nineteen years ago)
I mean, Edward, if you compare it to, say, "You Doo Right," doesn't the songwriting actually, in fact, matter? Because "You Doo Right" is good songwriting.
― Tim Ellison, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:32 (nineteen years ago)
but possibly the least interesting thing about it
― Edward III, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:34 (nineteen years ago)
it's like complaining about the faulty plot of joyce's ulysses
― Edward III, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:35 (nineteen years ago)
"Eat Yourself Fitter"
― o. nate, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:36 (nineteen years ago)
if you see the holy ghost on the screen, be sure to look for your eraser
― Edward III, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:37 (nineteen years ago)
and/or cursor
Q: what is a centimeter square A: tab
― Edward III, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:39 (nineteen years ago)
these are clues
― Edward III, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:40 (nineteen years ago)
"but possibly the least interesting thing about it"
No way. It's key to its appeal. What is so "interesting" about "You Doo Right?" That is was long and minimal? Is that really so interesting? It's appeal lies in the beauty of the instrumentation, the melody, the performances, the energy, etc.
― Tim Ellison, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:41 (nineteen years ago)
GOHOHO9OGOHOHO9OGOHOHO9OHO9OGOHO
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:41 (nineteen years ago)
snow on Easter Sunday. funny and true.
― ryanch, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:42 (nineteen years ago)
"it's like complaining about the faulty plot of joyce's ulysses"
Wouldn't know. Never read it. Something tells me I doubt it.
― Tim Ellison, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:42 (nineteen years ago)
oh yeah, and my first response would be "Hotel Bloedel," but how could I not pick "Tempo House,"or "Smile," or "Neighbourhood of Infinity,"or my first love, "I Feel Voxish"? It is like the classicmost album. Maybe not even their singular best record (only because some stiff competitioners) but a break w/ what came before & after is I think the reason why it is so revered among the faithful. also because every one's a winner. & see the video.
― ryanch, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:49 (nineteen years ago)
Can you include some of the bonus tracks from reissues? If so, I choose 'Wings.' Probably my favorite Fall track.
If not, it's Tempo House.
― righteousmaelstrom, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:53 (nineteen years ago)
Wot's a computer?
― Steve Shasta, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:54 (nineteen years ago)
It just doesn't feel right anymore when threads like these aren't set up as polls. But maybe Amanda just didn't know she could do it that way.
― Bimble, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:56 (nineteen years ago)
That album has amzingly high ratio of great MES quips.
― righteousmaelstrom, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:57 (nineteen years ago)
I dunno, is MES singing "Solitaire" for the BEF a bonus track? He could've been bigger than Tina Turner.
― ryanch, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:58 (nineteen years ago)
But who wants to be with them anyway?
― righteousmaelstrom, Thursday, 24 May 2007 21:01 (nineteen years ago)
I think the Fall are anti-poll. Smacks of politicos & non-smokers, no? ok pick the fall quote that backs me up on the Fall being anti-polling.
― Amanda Hugankiss, Thursday, 24 May 2007 21:08 (nineteen years ago)
No quote necessary - MES was surely call the poll idea rubbish.
― Tim Ellison, Thursday, 24 May 2007 21:10 (nineteen years ago)
It was not an unreasonable offer.
― Amanda Hugankiss, Thursday, 24 May 2007 21:12 (nineteen years ago)
It's appeal lies in the beauty of the instrumentation, the melody, the performances, the energy, etc.
we must have diff definitions of songwriting; only 1 of the 4 aspects you mention (melody) is related to mine. great songwriting is composing something someone can recreate rather easily. almost any musician can bang out a decent version of "you are my sunshine". great performances involve something unrecreatable and "you doo right" fits that category.
pbl is in neither category and is in fact beyond classification but once again I have confused myself with someone who has something to say.
― Edward III, Thursday, 24 May 2007 21:31 (nineteen years ago)
y'know I used to have a thing about link wray
― Edward III, Thursday, 24 May 2007 21:32 (nineteen years ago)
the arrangements are part of the songwriting, ergo "the instrumentation" is certainly part of the composition of "You Doo Right." as far as the performance goes, you usually write it the way you perform it, so malcolm mooney's performance on "You Doo Right" (at least on the parts where he's not improvising - same as with the instrumentalists) was composed. same could be said about the energy of the composition itself - that was an element in the composition.
― Tim Ellison, Thursday, 24 May 2007 21:34 (nineteen years ago)
Is energy not a part of the composition of "Blitzkrieg Bop?"
you might say energy is part of the composition of "sweet jane" until you hear the cowboy junkies' version of it
― Edward III, Thursday, 24 May 2007 21:37 (nineteen years ago)
put your claim in tempo house go on and have a grouse
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 24 May 2007 21:39 (nineteen years ago)
some songs are written so well they're hard to fuck up. which is why everybody plays them.
some songs are performed so well that nobody tries to play them.
― Edward III, Thursday, 24 May 2007 21:40 (nineteen years ago)
5:40 pm.
Almost time for the giant moths.
― Jon Lewis, Thursday, 24 May 2007 21:40 (nineteen years ago)
anarchy, he said
he smiled
― Edward III, Thursday, 24 May 2007 21:41 (nineteen years ago)
Edward, you're engaging in needless semantics. The point is that the things I mention were indeed "composed," i.e., conceived at the same time as the notes themselves.
― Tim Ellison, Thursday, 24 May 2007 21:43 (nineteen years ago)
"Don't start bloody improvising"
― sexyDancer, Thursday, 24 May 2007 21:46 (nineteen years ago)
I leave the needless semantics to MES (he knows the evil of the phone).
did the cowboy junkies compose "sweet jane"?
― Edward III, Thursday, 24 May 2007 21:47 (nineteen years ago)
no xmas for junkies
― ryanch, Thursday, 24 May 2007 21:52 (nineteen years ago)
Well, "Garden" is 9 straight minutes of utter brilliance, so I'm going to have to go with that one. Though I wonder why one version omits the little recorded bit about pressing a button to blow up inconvenient friends.
― clotpoll, Thursday, 24 May 2007 22:49 (nineteen years ago)
Do a dance here.
― clotpoll, Thursday, 24 May 2007 22:50 (nineteen years ago)
Panic in Sudan, panic in Wardour
― Morley Timmons, Friday, 25 May 2007 00:46 (nineteen years ago)