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Poll Results

OptionVotes
On the Beach 12
Tonight's the Night 12
Rust Never Sleeps 12
After the Gold Rush 9
Sleeps With Angels 8
Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere 7
Arc/Weld 3
Old Ways 3
Dead Man 2
Ragged Glory 2
Trans 2
Live Rust 2
Time Fades Away 1
Re-ac-tor 1
Zuma 1
Everybody's Rockin' 1
Mirror Ball 1
Harvest 1
Comes a Time 1
Broken Arrow 1
Hawks & Doves 1
Silver & Gold 0
Are You Passionate? 0
Greendale 0
Prairie Wind 0
Harvest Moon 0
Freedom 0
This Note's for You 0
Life 0
Landing on Water 0
Neil Young 0
American Stars 'N Bars 0
Living with War0


strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:18 (thirteen years ago) link

oh shit decade

strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:21 (thirteen years ago) link

and #s of boots. sorry gang. read my lips, vote dead man

strgn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 11:22 (thirteen years ago) link

After The Gold Rush.

but On The Beach too. the title song makes me cry.

bakerstreetsaxsolo, Sunday, 17 June 2007 12:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted Time Fades Away

Billy Pilgrim, Sunday, 17 June 2007 12:43 (thirteen years ago) link

this was already done.
Best of Neil Young studio records

Zeno, Sunday, 17 June 2007 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link

This one has live albums.

Some of them, anyway. (Unplugged, Year of the Horse, Road Rock vol. 1)

StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh. The studio albums poll had the live albums too. Nevermind then.

StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted Ragged Glory because it needs more love and less rockism. That's a srsly good record, yo.

kenan, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link

First person to vote "Old Ways" gets a dollar from me.

kenan, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for "Old Ways" just for the cash. You want my paypal address?

Rock Hardy, Sunday, 17 June 2007 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

After The Gold Rush = the good songs are so good they make you forget about the bad ones

On The Beach = pretty much all good

Hurting 2, Sunday, 17 June 2007 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean "When You Dance" is kind of endearing as a cornily sincere, b-level hippie artifact, but Cripple Creek Ferry is a real turd of a song, and Birds isn't great either.

Hurting 2, Sunday, 17 June 2007 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I got to get away from this day to day running around

calstars, Sunday, 17 June 2007 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link

TRANS FTW!

circa1916, Sunday, 17 June 2007 23:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Arc/Weld. The worst/best live albums ever.

SeekAltRoute, Monday, 18 June 2007 03:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Dead Man is actually really really good.

MRZBW, Monday, 18 June 2007 08:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Tonight's The Night

closely followed by Goldrush and On The Beach

TTN is definitely my favourite - it's so fucked, so moving. Tender, ragged and rocking in equal measure.

Baby Mellow My Mind aches so hard - the swell of pedal steel, touch of lonesome barroom piano, and Neil's voice actually breaking up.

Come On Baby Let's Go Downtown rocks. It sounds so triumphant in its hedonism yet the undercurrent is utterly bleak.

Other favourites - Everybody Knows, Rust, Zuma, Time Fades Away, Sleeps With Angels, Live Rust. Hell, there hardly any poor ones. I've not heard the infamous Landing On Water, but Are You Passionate was bloody awful. Trans is ace though.

Ragged Glory is great fun, one of his most satisfying rock records, but I wouldn't quite put it in the top rung of Neil albums.

Harvest - handful of great songs and some dreary stuff too. Overall, it's too slick, too polite. I like Neil a little scuffed around the edges.

Stew, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Rust Never Sleeps has Powderfinger, for the win.

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyone else notice how Apatow kept dropping the cover of Landing On Water all over Knocked Up. What's the deal with that? Consensus aropund these parts on that album?

talrose, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 06:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Rust Never Sleeps for "Powderfinger", but also because of the individually peculiar time and place in which I first loved this record. Also, it's an incredibly balanced album in so many ways I can't be bothered to expand on here.

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 06:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Consensus aropund these parts on that album?

I noticed the curious product placement too, Tal. There's an interesting thread here devoted to Landing on Water.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:12 (thirteen years ago) link

no "none of the above"????

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:25 (thirteen years ago) link

just snuck in a vote for tonight's the night. right in the nick of time.

emotion of the less contained and calculated variety

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link

me for tonights the night, too. its so close though - there are better songs on zuma and everybody knows, and almost enough to give the nod to one of them, but TTN takes it

69, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, Tonight's The Night would be my second or third and very close.

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Rust Never Sleeps by a hair, for side one and Powderfinger alone (though nearly sunk by Welfare Mothers).

Davey D, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh c'mon, Welfare Mothers is great! My favorite Neil Young throwaway.

Jiminy Krokus, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

DIVORCEE

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

a 3-way tie this time then.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Fair result.

Lostandfound, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Wait. Zuma should've been much higher, though.

Lostandfound, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:47 (thirteen years ago) link

c'est vrai

blunt, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Someone voted for Everybody's Rockin' again.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

One vote for "Zuma"! No way!! This poll is corrupt!!!

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

"On the Beach" - there's an ILM album if ever there was one

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Sleeps With Angels is way too high. And Freedom is way too low.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

The fact that Zuma ranked below Trans completely invalidates this poll.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

So, basically, I'm the only person who voted for "Zuma"? Don't believe it.

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

I wasn't around when CSN(and sometimes Y) were at their peak, so apologies for the following somewhat naive question:

How much of Neil Young's popularity in the 70s can be attributed to his association with CSN? The thought never really occurred to me until I was checking out CSN(Y)'s Allmusic entry today, which says "it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles".

Personally, I like Neil Young exponentially more than CSN(Y), so my gut feeling is that the majority of Neil Young's fans were there on account of his own talent. But was there a certain contingency of fans who cheered loudest for "Ohio" and "Helpless", contemplating to themselves at the Live Rust concerts that it would be better if CSN were up on stage too? Or was it more like "Why the hell does Neil Young ever play with them? They butchered 'Helpless'..."? Just wondering what the prevalent view was back in the day.

Z S, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

When CSN and sometimes Y reunited for a predictably horrible album in 1988, Neil begged off the obligatory tour, saying, "I dunno man, those guys need some serious practice."

And that Allmusic statement strikes me as comically absurd.

Sara Sara Sara, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I admit it raised my eyebrow as well, but then I go the ILM search function, and the second thing I read on the Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young C/D S/D thread is "i'm more interested in the fact that CSN(Y) (or whatever) were actually REALLY POPULAR and BIG -- as in springsteen in '85/outkast or britney spears BIG. that's such a radical sea-change in mass public musical taste that deserves some comment, no?"

Z S, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

On The Beach is very good, but would have voted Everybody Knows this is Nowhere, in fact i shall play it now

Alex in Denver, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

hi alex, how is the weather in denver? in frankfurt it has been raining most of the day. i would have voted <i>after the goldrush</i>, i think. but <i>on the beach</i> is a decent winner, too.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

i will never learn the ilm html tags...

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

weird

moscow_nights, Monday, 26 November 2007 03:45 (thirteen years ago) link

it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles

In their time their American album sales were HUGE. Their cultural cachet was such that their public greeted "Ohio" as a major statement. I'm wary of statements like AllMusic's, but the Shakey bio also makes the same suggestion.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 26 November 2007 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link

CSNY were huge because the Byrds, the Hollies, and the Buffalo Springfield had all been huge before.

Nubbelverbrennung, Monday, 26 November 2007 11:26 (thirteen years ago) link

what a great interview, jealous you got to speak to poncho!

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 19:55 (three weeks ago) link

this was a perfect 4/20 present, makes me wanna crank up some live Horse

"Gaspar? No way." (sleeve), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 20:10 (three weeks ago) link

I still want a Poncho shirt but I have a hunch Poncho has the only one.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 20:28 (three weeks ago) link

just chiming in to say how much i enjoyed that interview

i only saw crazy horse twice - 2001 and 2012

2001 was a really solid selection of older songs - 2012 i really loved the psychedelic pill songs, it felt like it got close to that arc/weld feeling of touring a great new album where the (then) contemporary songs kinda feel like instant classics

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 23:45 (three weeks ago) link

oh whoops it was 2013! anyway time clearly meaningless for Crazy Horse

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 23:49 (three weeks ago) link

i saw them on that tour too, they were fucking great

they boiled a lot of boomer piss in the audience that night by playing 10 minutes of wailing feedback in the middle of the show instead of 'heart of gold' or whatever, there were numerous walkouts

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 10:34 (three weeks ago) link

just listening to the budokan set on archives ii now after reading the poncho interview and man he's really playing his ass off on 'drive back', the acid clearly agreed with him that night

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 10:44 (three weeks ago) link

xpost - it's kind of remarkable how long he's played crazy loud shit with crazy horse and how oblivious a significant portion of his audience seems to be shocked that he's not doing harvest

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 13:48 (three weeks ago) link

I've mentioned a friend before who claims to like Neil Young but "only his acoustic stuff," which really is actually not that much, especially considering this friend has without a doubt not bought anything by Neil Young in (er) decades, and is therefore probably only thinking of his '70s output. So, yeah, Harvest.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 14:09 (three weeks ago) link

it was v funny to see some of the outraged faces around me as wave after wave of coruscating feedback crashed over them

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 14:26 (three weeks ago) link

speaking of which, a 2013 Crazy Horse show is the "Timeline Concert of the Week" at the Neil Archives site now ...

tylerw, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 14:35 (three weeks ago) link

That Poncho interview is so great, tylerw. And imagining Neil and Crazy Horse playing "Tangled Up In Blue" with Dylan, fuuuuuuuck.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 15:12 (three weeks ago) link

I love the idea of Dylan just sitting in a van out in front, listening to the Horse run loose.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 15:14 (three weeks ago) link

I'm listening to Neil Young, I gotta turn up the sound
Someone's always yellin' "Turn it down"

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 15:17 (three weeks ago) link

Love that Poncho interview, great stuff. Being in Crazy Horse sounds amazingly like what you'd expect.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 16:51 (three weeks ago) link

Great interview Tyler!

On another note, anybody know what's going on in this photo?

https://64.media.tumblr.com/4888d9a253b51562a675319a43eadd31/7c695141330420a8-cd/s500x750/912c9a068ba2bc1f72015afc7a87ca8256c0d7ee.jpg

whitehallunity, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 17:01 (three weeks ago) link

Ill-fated Turtles reunion?

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 17:02 (three weeks ago) link

the exact moment neil decided to ditch the stills-young band in the middle of their 1976 tour?

tylerw, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 17:04 (three weeks ago) link

lol

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 18:16 (three weeks ago) link

“Only three more songs before I kick your ass, pal.”

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 19:13 (three weeks ago) link

Flo & Eddie have an eerie ability to look photoshopped into every photo they are in

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 20:53 (three weeks ago) link

I saw the Turtles live about 15 years ago, and they played a faithful cover of "Cinnamon Girl" which they said they'd just recorded for a tribute album (that I think ultimately didn't happen).

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 21:01 (three weeks ago) link

There is a connection, Johnny Barbata was in the Turtles & played with CSN&Y and half of "Time Fades Away"

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 21:22 (three weeks ago) link

flo & eddie seem like the kind of guys who had a really good drug connect

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 April 2021 01:56 (three weeks ago) link

who does the “whoa-oh-oh” response vocals in the verse of “farmer John”? Not sure how to google this lol

brimstead, Friday, 23 April 2021 01:41 (two weeks ago) link

I think that's, like, the audience? I noticed that as well but haven't registered

"Gaspar? No way." (sleeve), Friday, 23 April 2021 15:08 (two weeks ago) link

"re-listened" dammit

"Gaspar? No way." (sleeve), Friday, 23 April 2021 15:08 (two weeks ago) link

judging from the catalyst video it's all of Crazy Horse trading off on those backing vocals.

tylerw, Friday, 23 April 2021 15:23 (two weeks ago) link

afterwards i did think about a book — seems like you miiiiiight be able to do a Crazy Horse bio without it being too redundant after Shakey. Not sure. Someone should do it.

just about to sink my teeth into yr interview Tyler, but why not pitch to ghostwrite Poncho's memoir? Seems like you'd know the questions that led to the best answers...

burnt hombre (stevie), Monday, 3 May 2021 18:26 (one week ago) link

Kinda want to start a separate thread for albums that are in the “tonight’s the night”-ditch trilogy vein from around that time period. I briefly started digging through acts Ben Keith did sessions from the 70s hoping to find something but no luck so far.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 5 May 2021 02:02 (one week ago) link

Just got Rust Bucket on vinyl. This is going to be the album of the summer; windows open, hot day, cold beer. The more you drink the better it sounds.

keto keto bonito v industry plant-based diet (PBKR), Thursday, 6 May 2021 23:07 (one week ago) link

i listened to it many times recently! i have to admit i enjoy it more as it gets near the last half, and it was hard to tell whether crazy horse was settling more into it as the set went on, or because i was much more familiar with the songs. either way , it sounded like a good ol' drunken time. i gotta admit, early 90s/grunge-associated Neil isn't my favorite (although i still love things from that era, like Harvest Moon), but i've gained a greater appreciation of what was cool and unique about that era for him

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 6 May 2021 23:11 (one week ago) link

I mean it's no Ditch trilogy, but for a late (mid?) career revival, especially one that hits hard, it's ace.

I'm going to be that guy: the sound of the guitars is just perfect.

keto keto bonito v industry plant-based diet (PBKR), Thursday, 6 May 2021 23:21 (one week ago) link

xpost you don't like Ragged Glory? that don't compute

^yeah! if you're gonna be that guy, you might as well be right. i wish i knew who was playing what (neil or poncho) during some sections, but either way it all sounds great

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 6 May 2021 23:25 (one week ago) link

xp i do like it! i'm just saying..it's not my favorite :D

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 6 May 2021 23:27 (one week ago) link

I mean Joe Bonamassa has wet dreams of this tone.

keto keto bonito v industry plant-based diet (PBKR), Thursday, 6 May 2021 23:35 (one week ago) link

90s neil is my favorite sometimes, so much feedback and wind whipped hair

brimstead, Thursday, 6 May 2021 23:37 (one week ago) link

the only 90s neil i really go for is the dead man soundtrack tbh

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Thursday, 6 May 2021 23:40 (one week ago) link

I should say 90s live horse

brimstead, Thursday, 6 May 2021 23:57 (one week ago) link

nearly a year later, i'm finally getting to homegrown and yep: it rules.

also flipping through the neil cds at barnes and noble yesterday, holy hell there's been a shitton of live archive releases lately. i knew the frequency of releases had picked up, but not like that. got some catchin' up to do i reckon.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 7 May 2021 20:30 (six days ago) link

yeah the floodgates are finally coming open! there's a lot of shit.

homegrown's more than alright with me

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 7 May 2021 20:32 (six days ago) link

oh shit, i didn't realize that's robbie robertson playing along on "white line"!

makes sense, i suppose

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 7 May 2021 20:54 (six days ago) link

never really got into the ditch stuff before for some dumb reason but I’ve been playing a disc from archives ii every day since I got in a couple of months ago and it’s like why even bother listening to other music

brimstead, Friday, 7 May 2021 22:42 (six days ago) link

I was you some 8 years ago or so. And clemenza sent me Time Fades Away vinyl in the mail. This was before you could stream it! <3 to clemenza down in the rust bucket.

If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 8 May 2021 01:26 (five days ago) link

That is a good ilxor.

keto keto bonito v industry plant-based diet (PBKR), Saturday, 8 May 2021 02:48 (five days ago) link

A quandary

1. I will buy anything the dude puts out.

2. I hate Greendale. It just goes tunelessly on and on forever. 8 minutes declaiming through a bullhorn is about 7:59 too much.

Do I have to get Return to Greendale?

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 8 May 2021 07:52 (five days ago) link

I quite like the solo acoustic greendale live show (Dublin) but none of the other versions :-(

StanM, Saturday, 8 May 2021 09:12 (five days ago) link

I think Return to Greendale is an improvement over the album but it's not like it's Live Rust or something, if you dislike the material it's probably not enough

greendale is rotten. first time i saw him aged about 17 i was so hyped, but it was the first run of greendale acoustic solo shows before the LP was even out. he played the whole thing with 5 minute chats between each song about what the lyrics mean (as if every single on that lp isn't extremely obvious). I had exams the next day and had to leave just as he started playing old stuff for the encore, and still missed my train, had to wait 2 hours in waterloo station until the next one. had a little cry.

thankfully he's made up for it every other time i've caught him. but yeah, it sucked.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Saturday, 8 May 2021 13:05 (five days ago) link


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