I want good bookshelf speakers to get as close to the sound of being in a studio control room as possible. I've been looking at B&W 601s and 602s, also JBL control 1 and Boston Acoustic stuff, but these are just recommendations I was given. Any imput from the greater ILX control centre? I can spend about $500 for a pair. Anything beats these 4' Polk Audio speakers from the 80s I've been using.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 3 August 2007 00:07 (ten years ago) Permalink
I bought some B&W CM1's the other day for about $850. Might be slightly over your budget but they sound *great* and the build quality is fantastic. They weigh an absolute tonne!
― sam500, Friday, 3 August 2007 00:37 (ten years ago) Permalink
Are you using these for studio monitoring, or for listening pleasure, or both?
― John Justen, Friday, 3 August 2007 00:42 (ten years ago) Permalink
Mostly home listening, but will need to review some 'final mixes' soon and such, this sorta thing comes up sometimes, and in general I just love how studio monitors sound and would love to replicate that as best I can at home
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 3 August 2007 00:50 (ten years ago) Permalink
here is a review of the CM1's:
― sam500, Friday, 3 August 2007 00:57 (ten years ago) Permalink
Those look rad but quite more than I can spend at the moment less I face the wrath of my wife.
Are there other, less expensive B&Ws?
Is that audiogone site any good for this kinda thing?
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 3 August 2007 01:02 (ten years ago) Permalink
The 601's or 602's are meant to be good but I don't know much about them (they're a bit cheaper right?).
I've browsed the forums at audiogon before but haven't used it for buying.
― sam500, Friday, 3 August 2007 01:14 (ten years ago) Permalink
Perhaps the reason John is asking, and forgive me if you already know this:
The goal of most studio monitors is to produce a flat frequency response and a truthful representation of the source material. Unlike consumer speakers, which are often designed to make all audio material sound pleasing to the ear, the studio monitor generally attempts to paint an accurate audio image of the material with no unnatural emphasis or de-emphasis of particular frequencies. This is what it means when a monitor is said to be "flat". and "uncolored" or "transparent". Sound engineers usually require accurate sound reproduction from their speakers especially during audio mixing and mastering. This enables the engineer to mix a track that will sound consistent on high-end audio, low quality radios, in a club, in a car stereo or a home stereo.
Also, near-field monitors are generally designed to be listened to from shorter distances than home speakers.
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Friday, 3 August 2007 01:24 (ten years ago) Permalink
i've been using my dad's old stereo speakers for a long time now. they sound pretty good but they take up a lot of space, they're each about three feet tall, which doesn't make much sense in a small two-bedroom apartment. so basically i'm looking for smaller speakers (small enough to be put on a shelf or bookcase) that sound pretty good and aren't insanely expensive.
i thought wireless speakers would be a good option, but it looks like most of these on the market are dinky things designed more for computers or ipods than a real stereo system. are there good wireless speakers out there? if not, any recommended brands/models for smaller stereo speakers?
― congratulations (n/a), Sunday, 10 January 2010 23:31 (eight years ago) Permalink
what is yr budget? how big is the room in question?
― Shh! It's NOT Me!, Sunday, 10 January 2010 23:48 (eight years ago) Permalink
PSB. Or B&W. Both are widely available (though PSB is Canadian—so easier to find in the US than in the UK). I like the midrange of all PSB speakers, but ears vary. Go find a dealer. Bring music you know well. Listen. Spend as much as you can afford—you'll have them for a long time. Very loosely speaking, the more you spend, the larger the space you'll be able to fill with good sound. The PSB Alpha B1 monitors (a little less than a foot high) or Image B6 Bookshelf (a little more than a foot high) are wonderful little speakers for average rooms.
But without knowing a budget, it's hard to advise. I wouldn't go wireless except as a last resort. The Alpha B1's are about $275; the Image B6's are about $500.
Their cheapest speaker, the LR-1, is about $200:
― Michael Train, Monday, 11 January 2010 00:25 (eight years ago) Permalink
I agree with not going wireless, you are adding another compression/decompression step into the sound chain and that is going to hit sound quality in most circumstances. I presume you are already have an amp so I'd go with that.
Klipsch RB-35 are worth looking at at around $350 a pair and the rest of the RB range as well.
If you are going to put them on a bookshelf, invest in some spikes, cones or other isolation device.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 11 January 2010 00:35 (eight years ago) Permalink
whatever you do make sure you audition them before you get them
― Player is killed, but they are resurrected, and the 45 Revolver glow gold (dyao), Monday, 11 January 2010 02:26 (eight years ago) Permalink
thanks for the tips. honestly, i'm probably not going to spend more than $200, but there are some good stereo stores here in chicago where i can go listen to speakers so i'll do that
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 11 January 2010 13:43 (eight years ago) Permalink
looks like they carry most of the PSB speakers at the place i bought my turntable
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 11 January 2010 13:45 (eight years ago) Permalink
Klipsch, B&W, PSBs are ok choices but ultimately it will come down to subjectivities (listening conditions, music, personal preference). You might want to check into Epos(esp. the discontinued ELS-3s) and Paradigm (Atoms) .
― nothingleft (gravydan), Monday, 11 January 2010 14:23 (eight years ago) Permalink
What amplifier / source are you using?
― exploding angel vagina (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 11 January 2010 14:24 (eight years ago) Permalink
honestly my set-up is fairly embarrassing, i'm really not much of an audiophile and have trouble spending money on "fun" items. i have a decent turntable (a vintage pioneer that was completely fixed up by the aforementioned stereo dudes) but my amp is nothing special, some old jvc thing.
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 11 January 2010 14:30 (eight years ago) Permalink
In which case you're going to want something small and easy-to-drive. Look for something with quite high sensitivity (89/90 rather than 86 or so).
― exploding angel vagina (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 11 January 2010 14:40 (eight years ago) Permalink
But yeah, get over the "fun" thing and get a new amplifier too.
― exploding angel vagina (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 11 January 2010 14:41 (eight years ago) Permalink
frankly I wouldn't worry about sensitivity -- but *do* make sure you match the impedance of your amp to possible speakers.
― nothingleft (gravydan), Monday, 11 January 2010 15:45 (eight years ago) Permalink
don't have much to add to what was already said - other than Focals are fairly nice and are worth auditioning against B&W in general - but thats more toward the 500/pr price range.
if find you can save up to that range, the B&W 685s and the Focal 706 are worth your time. if you think you can save up, it is worth looking at these. certainly, you will not be taking as big of a hit on bass as you would be with some of the smaller speakers mentioned above.
www.audiogon.com can be your friend if you are savvy at buying used online, but if you spend time auditioning in a shop, you should buy from that shop.
― Shh! It's NOT Me!, Monday, 11 January 2010 17:57 (eight years ago) Permalink
All those speakers are fine, and truth be told the acoustics of your space (room configuration and speaker placement) will mean almost as much as the speakers you get. The difference between spending $200 and $500 on a pair of PSB speakers (and this holds for other brands, too) is the ability to fill a larger space with more good sound, especially bass.
One economizing trick with PSBs is to get the small speakers now, and then get their cheapest subwoofer in a year or two (as your budget allows). You'll get their amazing midrange for now, then improve the sound vastly once you relegate the heavy lifting of bass production to a sub (and subwoofers--since bass is non-directional--can be tucked away anywhere in the room, out of sight if necessary).
― Michael Train, Monday, 11 January 2010 23:03 (eight years ago) Permalink
this is a CRAZY good deal on some mordaunt bookshelves:
― XX Decontrol (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 8 February 2010 19:48 (eight years ago) Permalink
Left channel on my klipsch speakers just burnt out... anybody here got the knowledge or patience to walk me through potential fixes? Or someone who lives in NY/NJ area who would take cash to fix em? Klipsch help line was utterly useless. It's a pro media 2.1 system.
― this isn't STRAWBERRY 0_o it's RAWBERRY (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:16 (seven years ago) Permalink
I recommended Mordaunt-Short to a friend a couple years ago. He got the floorstanding ones (which is usually preferable if you have the space) and loves 'em. There's often good deals. I got all my Wharfedale Evo speakers for a great price, much easier to find deals than for, say, B&Ws.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:09 (seven years ago) Permalink
― scott seward, Sunday, 25 November 2012 18:02 (five years ago) Permalink
sleepy pillow time...
― scott seward, Sunday, 25 November 2012 18:52 (five years ago) Permalink
Hope those are analog tube pillows.
― and I scream Fieri Eiffel Tower High (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 25 November 2012 19:19 (five years ago) Permalink
Some of the kit on those pages is just insane.
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 25 November 2012 20:00 (five years ago) Permalink
I heard about a guy who wanted the best possible isolation for his turntable. He built a concrete column for it to rest on that went from his basement up into his living room, the floor of which he'd cut a hole in for the column.
I don't know why he didn't just move his stereo into his basement and put the turntable on the floor, but I guess that wouldn't have been as much fun.
― and I scream Fieri Eiffel Tower High (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 25 November 2012 20:17 (five years ago) Permalink
― scott seward, Sunday, 25 November 2012 20:31 (five years ago) Permalink
dave matthews band never sounded so good.
― scott seward, Sunday, 25 November 2012 20:32 (five years ago) Permalink
and then you put that picture up
― owenf, Sunday, 25 November 2012 20:32 (five years ago) Permalink
bet that picture is fucking with the acoustics of the room
― 乒乓, Sunday, 25 November 2012 20:33 (five years ago) Permalink
what are those two things that are above the picture ?
webcams to film the enjoyment such an ott set up provides when listening to dave mathews ?
therms to keep the room at a particular temp/humidity ?
― mark e, Sunday, 25 November 2012 20:44 (five years ago) Permalink
― scott seward, Sunday, 25 November 2012 20:45 (five years ago) Permalink
vroom vroom one is what i was talking about at first. that racing car set up looks like its about 4 feet from the chair. ansd is the chair against the other wall? and is a setup like that gonna sound like it should in a room the size of a large closet?
― scott seward, Sunday, 25 November 2012 20:47 (five years ago) Permalink
i mean i'm sure it will sound fine. but i have speakers set up between two rooms, one small room and one larger room. when i point the speakers into the larger room they sound way better. they open up.
― scott seward, Sunday, 25 November 2012 20:50 (five years ago) Permalink
vroom vroom is making my ears hurt just looking at it.
why do none of them have fancy walls? if you're going to spend that much you may as well cover the surfaces with some kind of optimally resonant material.
― Shane Richie Junior (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 25 November 2012 23:34 (five years ago) Permalink
so after months of looking I finally settled on Tannoy M20s, made my order from ebay, got them today, quite poorly packaged and wet from rain soaking through the box. After letting them dry off I've found that the sound from one of the speakers is quite fuzzy and indistinct - any ideas what the problem is likely to be?
― Shane Richie Junior (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 29 November 2012 18:58 (five years ago) Permalink
After letting them dry off I've found that the sound from one of the speakers is quite fuzzy and indistinct - any ideas what the problem is likely to be?
that happened to my earbuds after I got them wet.
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:00 (five years ago) Permalink
i got very technical with the speaker by putting my ear next to it and it seems that there's no sound coming from the tweeter. is that a conceivable diy repair job, or a relatively cheap outsourced repair job, or am i boned?
― Shane Richie Junior (Merdeyeux), Friday, 30 November 2012 05:43 (five years ago) Permalink
― scott seward, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 21:19 (five years ago) Permalink
Yeah I don't see any stillpoints so
― fuck off like a diamond (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 24 January 2013 04:16 (five years ago) Permalink
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 24 January 2013 04:38 (five years ago) Permalink
He's gonna have terrible standing waves without a rug there, or something.
― i would never inflict the process of making a sandwich on myself (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 24 January 2013 08:18 (five years ago) Permalink
Pretty depressing to see this thread re-emerge the day after I discover a suspicious buzz coming out of my Rega RS5's when playing anything with sub bass.
Not having much luck recently; moved into a new house late last year where I have, for the first time, a dedicated living room. Since then my turntable has been in to have it's needle changed and my amp went just before Xmas and needed to be sent back to Rega.
― Internet Alan, Thursday, 24 January 2013 09:50 (five years ago) Permalink
Thought this is worth a mention, the Andrew Jones designed Pioneer SP-FS52 speakers are available for a significant discount at $200 a pair until 1/4 at BuyDig. Jones moved on to German company ELAC, and there are deals on the Debut F5. I give a little history on Jones and some other cheapish gear recommendations.
― Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 30 December 2017 17:57 (two months ago) Permalink