good luck usa on the commercial prospects of that tho
― myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 03:21 (fifteen years ago) link
maybe i dont get the kids today but that screams 'hit' to me
― Because it's a snow machine (deej), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 05:41 (fifteen years ago) link
it's no "Donk"
― The stic.man from the hilarious 'Dead Prez' albums (some dude), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link
9 tracks of 11 tracks 808s and Heartbreak leak is :) :D :O XD ;_;
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link
the more i hear songs from that the less i can understand how that stuff can sound good to anyone. even the production is pretty flat.
― The stic.man from the hilarious 'Dead Prez' albums (some dude), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link
i think the production is flat because people are ripping them from Youtubes and shitty leaks and yelling "ExtravaggggggggGANGSTA RADIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" on them
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link
maybe flat was the wrong word, but just cheap, cheesy, poor choices in drum and synth sounds. dude's beats have always sounded somewhat naked w/out samples but these just sound bad, and he's either got a really cheap version of AutoTune or he's putting a filter on it that makes it sound shitty.
― The stic.man from the hilarious 'Dead Prez' albums (some dude), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link
that's exactly what i like about it though. It's very vulnerable and naked. I almost think it's a double standard that bombastic hip-hop types can't be stripped down and introspective and lo-fi. It's like calling Nebraska "shitty-sounding."
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link
if the other two tracks are like the 9 I heard, then this will be top 5 for me for sure.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link
ehh, I might agree if I thought he was making writing songs that were actually thoguhtful and introspective, not just hooting "you looooose" and "how could you be so Dr. Evil?" at some poor girl that put up with his infantile shit for years.
― The stic.man from the hilarious 'Dead Prez' albums (some dude), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link
you're def right about him being a misogynistic emo crybaby, but I just see that as Kanye's version of cleansing. I'm not always on his side, but it's great watching him vent. I don't have to agree with Ice Cube talking about burning down a Korean grocery either.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link
All I know is I agree with eskay's opinion on "Tell Everybody That You Know" that, "the Weezy “verse” on this is inexcusable." I mean come on. Dude's brain is clearly syrup mush at this point. And I thought that was the case six months ago.
http://nahright.com/news/2008/11/11/kanye-west-ft-lil-wayne-tell-everybody-that-you-know/
― matt2, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
did you honestly just compare emo autotune kanye to death certificate-era cube? are you off your fuckin meds??
― and what, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 16:21 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah death certificate is one of the GOATS.
but i think whiney means disagreeing w/the message, not the quality.
btw, are there any Swagga Like Us remixes out there? Cuz i love that track so much, i'd like to hear some good rapping over it (TI excepted)
― M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link
haven't heard that one yet, but is it actually worse than his "Can't Believe It" verse? if so, wow. xp
― The stic.man from the hilarious 'Dead Prez' albums (some dude), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link
product of the 80s - listened once and deleted
― eman, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:26 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
termanology freestyle
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/audio/id.5728/title.termanology-ea-y-money-snuk-swagger-like-us-freestyle
― and what, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link
sweet thx!
― M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 16:33 (fifteen years ago) link
i've seen a lot of SLU freestyles out there but mostly by guys i wouldn't really care to hear -- rick ross, chamillionaire, tony yayo, etc. the diddy version is pretty bad.
― The stic.man from the hilarious 'Dead Prez' albums (some dude), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link
btw i dont care if youre talkin bout "agreeing with the message" or whatever its still a bad look to put shitty new kanye joints up against death certificate
― and what, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link
i hate these korean grocers more than the nazis
― The stic.man from the hilarious 'Dead Prez' albums (some dude), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean, yeah, obvs. Death Certificate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything Kanye ever did.
But I mean, I think if this album takes off, we could be seeing a similar sea change in what it's OK to rap about, and, in this case, even what constitutes a rap song.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Rappers should never go to Europe.
― Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link
Hey some dude, you can hear it at the nahright link in my last post.
― matt2, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link
this might be my fave and what post ever, fwiw
relieved that preview of the matrix 12 isn't feeling term― and what, Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:44 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban
― and what, Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:44 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah i'm just at work so i never get to listen to links 90% of the time i'm on this board (xp)
― The stic.man from the hilarious 'Dead Prez' albums (some dude), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link
no headphones?
― eman, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link
OK wtf is this?! lol
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/audio/id.6053/title.kevin-rudolf-f-nas-nyc
― M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link
― Because it's a snow machine (deej), Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:41 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
every soulja boy single charts like 30 spots below the previous one + this is no worse or better than "marco polo" which basically flopped
― myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link
kanye in trite lyrics shocker, but i think every song i've heard has at least one awesome quality about it, be it the keyboard on "heartless" or the drums on "love lockdown" or the house-ish beat on the one w/ kid cudi
― myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Trick Trick to allhiphop.com: “I’ma go on the record right now with this. Homosexuals are probably not gonna like this album. I don’t want your f**got money any goddamn way. I don’t like it [homosexuality]. Carry that s**t somewhere else.”
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link
great self-name pwn
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link
“It’s just that every time that you turn on the TV, that sissy s**t is on,” Trick told AllHipHop.com. “And they act like its f**king okay. The world is changing for the worst when s**t like that happens. And I address that issue. I address it hard as hell.”
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link
What a fucking dickhead
closeted
― Because it's a snow machine (deej), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Yup!
― matt2, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Trick 239 up, 133 down 1. A derogatory term for women. This word is usually used by males referring to women who engage in sexually mishcievous behavior.
2. A prostitute's client. This led to the phrase "turning tricks," which is used to describe the act of prostitution.(Origin: 1915)
3. A homosexual male who engages in casual sex.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link
haha
― myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link
so ExtravaggggggggGANGSTA RADIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO vs. the los angeles leakers
― myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link
god jay-z why do you suck so fucking bad now? this is depressing...
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/audio/id.6045/title.jay-z-history
god if this new dead-ass boring leftover gorillaz tracks w/autotune abuse kanye "sound" becomes the shit, man...i dunno...maybe this is where i get off the bus hip-hop.
― 'RAPPERS I WOULD NEVER DREAM OF PUNCHING IN THE FACE?' (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link
like what the shit is this, coldest winter?
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/audio/id.5967/title.kanye-west-coldest-winter-mastered?sidebar=topcomment
man...god this makes postal service sound like MOP
― 'RAPPERS I WOULD NEVER DREAM OF PUNCHING IN THE FACE?' (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link
this isn't "hip-hop" though + i don't think there is much crossover b/w kanye's core fan base and the fan bases of shit like MOP or ppl who would describe themselves as fans of "real hip-hop"
if anything kanye is just gonna alienate teenagers with this
― myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah but like i'm serious, this kinda indie new wave shit isn't even good for that type of stuff...the postal service record is way better than this shit....the production is so flat (i think some dude commented on that)...like honestly i'm sort of done with them, but the new tv on the radio stuff is so much better than any of this.
anyway sorry i've been sleeping on this new kanye shit, so i'm sure this is like shit you dudes were talking about like weeks ago...
i'm just sort of in shock, it's like when you run into someone from high school and they are all tweaked out on meth or something, it's just sorta weird.
― 'RAPPERS I WOULD NEVER DREAM OF PUNCHING IN THE FACE?' (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link
heg my man u gotta do what i did and say http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:b6uNCBHR_WAPEM:http://www.msncontentplus.cn/winks/images/Middle-Finger.pngFUKK Uhttp://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:b6uNCBHR_WAPEM:http://www.msncontentplus.cn/winks/images/Middle-Finger.png to this radio bullshit & just roll with murder dog ish
― and what, Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link
haha this is a good analogy actually
i see where you're coming from, and i don't disagree w/ you re: the production but like whiney said i'm going to at least hold out until i'm not hearing youtube rips any longer
i think part of why i like kanye's new stuff is because he is probably the biggest pop star in the world so it's cool to see him totally going in a new direction when he's at the height of his popularity, but i don't think i'm going to be listening to this in a few years time like his other records. also if this was a postal service record, i'd probably think that it's boring.
otoh, i've liked pretty much everything kanye has ever done so i'm not shocked or anything that i really like this stuff
― myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link
look who called it
The, erm "official" Kanye "College Dropout" thread
and kanye is the fucking smuggest man alive, yall think hes funny now on his lil mixtapes and shit but wait til this time next year when hes like pharrell x10000
― $, Monday, February 9, 2004 4:41 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― and what, Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah...it'll be interesting to see how this stuff plays out, because Kanye did legitimately make a lot of things (musically, lyrically, fashionwise) cool or acceptable that platinum rappers wouldn't have dreamed of doing before he did it, but there has to be some kind of point where there's either a backlash or no other major artists choose to follow him down a path no matter how successful he is at it.
i like most of Kanye's shit in the past but he started to lose me with Graduation. he's always been kind of reactionary and trend-chasing but the way he's co-opting a lot of popular sounds (808s, AutoTune, Toomp beats) in the name of 'originality' but actually ending up with something way worse than what he's biting is some sad shit.
― forkslovetofuk (some dude), Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link
It's maths. There's, what, a third of the money to be made in CD sales as there was ten years back (what was the financial peak of rap in America? 1999?). So A-list rappers have to:
a) do stuff that works better in a live environmentb) do stuff that appeals to non-traditionally targeted rap markets (ie, Europe)
― Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link
jazze pha mmmmm
― $, Monday, February 9, 2004 3:41 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark
― myspace password secretary (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost yeah i gotta give you credit for that man...i honestly did not think back then that 5 years later he'd be mega-famous and would not fucking go away.
― forkslovetofuk (some dude), Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link