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I did a due diligence search for this and as far as I can tell we haven't done this one before, surprisingly. I'm seeing the Dan next weekend in NYC and I've been listening to this obsessively. It's a really hard choice but I'm going with Deacon Blues.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Deacon Blues 22
Peg 16
Black Cow 6
Aja 5
Home At Last 4
Josie2
I Got the News 0


ablaeser, Sunday, 15 June 2008 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Josie

usic, Sunday, 15 June 2008 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link

wheres option "it was alex in nyc"

and what, Sunday, 15 June 2008 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link

black cow... but they're all great. didn't think so at the time. luckily i've learnt that lesson.

nonightsweats, Sunday, 15 June 2008 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link

x-post: What?

ablaeser, Sunday, 15 June 2008 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

really tough.
everything is great except from Peg, which is also great but played out (though it won the best Dan song in the ilm poll, and will probably win now)
i'll go with my current favourite - Home At Last

Zeno, Sunday, 15 June 2008 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link

"Deacon Blues" but I'll change my mind tomorrow.

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 15 June 2008 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Peg 12
Deacon Blues 6
Black Cow 2
Josie 1
Aja 1
I Got The News 0
Home At Last 0

You knew it was inevitable...The Steely Dan Song Poll

Zeno, Sunday, 15 June 2008 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link

The title track all the way for me.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 16 June 2008 12:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Deacon Blues for sure

baaderonixx, Monday, 16 June 2008 12:29 (fifteen years ago) link

"Deacon Blues" no doubt, but I love "Home At Last" and "Black Cow" and "Peg" and "I Got The News" too. I tend to rep for Countdown or Royal Scam as my favorite Dan album since they're a little underrated compared to this one, but Aja really is unfuckwithable.

some dude, Monday, 16 June 2008 12:47 (fifteen years ago) link

^ Agree with that post in it's entirety, except to substitute Josie for Peg.

Frogman Henry, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:29 (fifteen years ago) link

"I tend to rep for Countdown or Royal Scam as my favorite Dan album since they're a little underrated compared to this one"

depends who you ask.Countdown To Ecstasy is the favourite Dan record for many fans, including myself.
Steely Dan themselvs don't like the record so much, and they said somewhere that the people who think Ecstasy is the best Dan record are crazy.

Zeno, Monday, 16 June 2008 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Black Cow this week. But what the hell is it about? A drink?

Ned Trifle II, Monday, 16 June 2008 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link

And if so, what is the recipe?

Ned Trifle II, Monday, 16 June 2008 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Ahh, the internet. When I tried to look this up a few years ago I found nothing. Now I am overwhelmed with info. So root beer and ice cream and chocolate source? In a bar?

Ned Trifle II, Monday, 16 June 2008 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link

John Justen and Fluffy Bear Will Drink Your Big Black Cow and Get Out Of Here

some dude, Monday, 16 June 2008 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Four recipes here, incl. a Green Cow. One of these surely will screen out the sorrow, but where are you tomorrow?

scampering alpaca, Monday, 16 June 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link

in the corner of my eye, i saw you in
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1267/769783020_c6606269c7.jpg?v=0
you were very high.

Zeno, Monday, 16 June 2008 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Is it too late to change the title of this thread to "Take your big black POLL and get out of here"?

ablaeser, Friday, 20 June 2008 01:13 (fifteen years ago) link

LEARN TO WERK THE SAXUHPHONE

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 20 June 2008 02:03 (fifteen years ago) link

this may be the first time i've ever agreed with geir. the last half is sex.

strgn, Friday, 20 June 2008 02:14 (fifteen years ago) link

of 'aja'

strgn, Friday, 20 June 2008 03:44 (fifteen years ago) link

the song

strgn, Friday, 20 June 2008 03:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm at the point of disliking this album, but I vote "Deacon Blues." Other than "Peg," the rest is stuff they perfected on Gaucho

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 20 June 2008 03:48 (fifteen years ago) link

We need a Gaucho poll. Geir, start one!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 20 June 2008 03:58 (fifteen years ago) link

This is my least favorite Steely Dan album, but it's still not bad. "Peg" and "Deacon Blues" are my favorite tracks.

o. nate, Friday, 20 June 2008 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link

(I guess Alfred and I see eye to eye on this one.)

o. nate, Friday, 20 June 2008 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm at the point of disliking this album, but I vote "Deacon Blues." Other than "Peg," the rest is stuff they perfected on Gaucho

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:48 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

I don't hear much of anything on Gaucho that resembles "Black Cow" or "Home At Last" or "Aja," especially not anything better.

some dude, Friday, 20 June 2008 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I think they took off a bit too much of the disco from Royal Scam to Aja, but they brought some of it back on Gaucho.

o. nate, Friday, 20 June 2008 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link

It's been said many times on the Gaucho thread, but I'll repeat: they wrote masterfully about ennui, dessication, and despair on Gaucho. I'm not sure what "Black Cow" and "Home At Last" are about beyond their instrumental virtuosity. I mean, they're pretty, I don't skip the tracks, but so what?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Good, I will listen to this today. I have to vote for "Peg," but it's sad that I can't also vote for "Deacon Blues." (Nothing like a Steely Dan poll to bring everyone out of the woodwork.)

_Rockist__Scientist_, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry, didn't realize you evaluate songs as if they're text and not music.

some dude, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link

black cow seems like it's about a splintering relationship or friendship, i haven't figured it yet.

omar little, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry, didn't realize you evaluate songs as if they're text and not music.

I didn't realize you wouldn't read my post correctly.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I think he read it perfectly fine...? I mean, why do the songs have to be "about" anything unless you're someone who privileges lyrics?

jaymc, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Songs can't say what they mean through music? My post said nothing about lyrics.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link

So the chord changes and solos on Aja don't communicate ennui, dessication, and despair as well as they do on Gaucho. Gotcha.

some dude, Friday, 20 June 2008 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link

1977 was an off year for the mu major chord.

David R., Friday, 20 June 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link

they wrote masterfully about ennui, dessication, and despair on Gaucho. I'm not sure what "Black Cow" and "Home At Last" are about beyond their instrumental virtuosity. I mean, they're pretty, I don't skip the tracks, but so what?

How about buying a collection of good poems instead then?

Geir Hongro, Friday, 20 June 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Friday, 20 June 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I like Geir when he's saucy.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 21 June 2008 00:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Saturday, 21 June 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

drink scotch whiskey all night long

PappaWheelie V, Sunday, 22 June 2008 03:29 (fifteen years ago) link

So when's the "Pretzel Logic" one? (my favourite by them besides "Aja")

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 22 June 2008 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm pleasantly shocked by the landslide for Deacon Blues. Well done, ILM.

ablaeser, Monday, 23 June 2008 02:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, Steely Dan totally rocked the Beacon yesterday, great show.

ablaeser, Monday, 23 June 2008 02:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Surprised that "I Got the News" and "Josie" did so poorly. Those would be my 3rd and 4th picks.

o. nate, Monday, 23 June 2008 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey- I was at that Beacon show too. Good show - would have liked to hear a few more pre-Royal Scam tunes, but good stuff.

o. nate, Monday, 23 June 2008 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw the tuesday night show at the beacon... I wish becker didn't sing on gaucho or do that narrative bit on hey nineteen. both were a little embarrassing. maybe fagen felt he had to throw him a bone since they played one of his solo tracks?

anyway, great show otherwise! and they played more gaucho material than aja, if memory serves. so the dan like gaucho better too!

original bgm, Monday, 23 June 2008 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link

'I Got The News' rules.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 14 September 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link

aw man, when Michael McDonald comes in on that one, so good

flappy bird, Thursday, 14 September 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link

Glamour Profession, My Rival and Time Out Of Mind are my favorite Gaucho songs. „Show me my rival, I'll match him whim for whim now“ is the quintessential Steely Dan battlecry

gospodin simmel, Thursday, 14 September 2017 15:45 (six years ago) link

Yeah those three are heart of gaucho for me as well

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link

weird, i would rate the other four tracks ahead of those

rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link

I don't dislike any of the songs on Gaucho, but side 1 is perfect.

flappy bird, Thursday, 14 September 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link

I mean, same goes for Aja though

flappy bird, Thursday, 14 September 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link

I used to think that I Got The News was the only dud here, but I've learned to love the herky-jerk rhythm and Victor Feldman's piano

An amazing drummer friend in college used to tool on the drums to this. They were not performed by one of the Porcaro/Gadd/Purdie masters but Ed Greene (Ed Greene (2) according to Discogs) but more importantly, he thought the fact that the guy did the same fill or two throughout more or less the whole song was kind of weak.

I'm not particularly bothered by it today but I do think I see his point. The part is not in the same league as songs on the rest of the album.

Also worth noting that I believe Roger Nichols didn't have the same involvement in the engineering of this record as compared to the others, which helps explain Aja didn't *sound* quite as lush as the records before and after it (tho it is certainly every bit as smooth if not more so).

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 15 September 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link

Side one of Aja takes a great steaming shit all over side one of Gaucho.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 15 September 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link

Counterpoint: no it doesn't

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 15 September 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link

the real answer might be that whatever Steely Dan album out of the first 7 is your favorite, you're right (mine changes all the time.)

nomar, Friday, 15 September 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link

I agree with nomar.

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 15 September 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link

xp to naive teen idol

that's really interesting. i wasn't talking about the drum performance in particular (which I agree is not the best) but the rhythm of the song in general as defined by the bassline. keeps the whole thing off-balance and makes the lyrics seem even weirder than they already are

rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Friday, 15 September 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link

man "Stand by the Seawall" is niiiice

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 15 September 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link

Glamour Profession, My Rival and Time Out Of Mind are my favorite Gaucho songs. „Show me my rival, I'll match him whim for whim now“ is the quintessential Steely Dan battlecry

― gospodin simmel, Thursday, September 14, 2017 11:45 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah those three are heart of gaucho for me as well

― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, September 14, 2017

dude "Third World Man"

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 September 2017 22:18 (six years ago) link

Gaucho the song is the defining moment of their career for me. The perfect climax right near the very end of their first run.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Saturday, 16 September 2017 00:54 (six years ago) link

Yes

calstars, Saturday, 16 September 2017 02:59 (six years ago) link

Let me be clear, I consider gaucho a perfect album and I love every song on it, but those three songs I love especially madly

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 16 September 2017 03:39 (six years ago) link

Whenever I put Gaucho on, which admittedly isn't often and mostly when it crops up in conversation, it's very rare that I make it to the end of side one, finding myself wanting to turn it off about a couple of minutes into 'Glamour Profession' ' if I do make it to side two, then I find myself wanting to switch it off after the title track. It's a shame that 'Third World Man' is buried at the end.

Mark Knopfler is on Gaucho, but I find Brothers in Arms a more engaging record.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 16 September 2017 07:52 (six years ago) link

Not enough FPs in the world...

Moodles, Saturday, 16 September 2017 11:43 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

https://youtu.be/Ghp88V3Qm8w

Jay Graydon breaks down his solo on Peg

calstars, Sunday, 16 June 2019 06:32 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

nice clip, thanks for sharing. love watching virtuoso guitar dudes talk with a guitar in their hands, it's like half words half licks.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link

The solo is great but holy shit when he toys around playing the rhythm around 5m55s is a fucking revelation... how he makes those stacked gospel chords sounds so effortless in standard barre chording... shows you how amazingly talented he is.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

I'm also amazed that he can remember his exact setup including the levels on his amp, it was only 40 years ago

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link

https://youtu.be/DP_2r9zbaIY

^ Newly uploaded clip of Donald playing the Peg chords !

I’ve been going pretty Peg crazy lately

calstars, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

"newly uploaded" my ass, lol

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 21:22 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

Me drinking scotch whiskey all night long: Haha fuck yeah!!! Yes!!

Me dying behind the wheel: Well this fucking sucks. What the fuck.

— boss (@bosscrood) July 17, 2022

one year passes...

Anyone heard the 45 rpm version?

calstars, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:37 (three weeks ago) link

You’ve always been able to play it at 45 if you wanted. They have played us for absolute fools.

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 22 March 2024 15:27 (three weeks ago) link

The Michael McDonald backing vocals on “I Got the News” are the best and worst thing on the album.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 22 March 2024 15:32 (three weeks ago) link

not really backing vocals, are they? he only turns up during the bridge and sings lead on a couple of lines

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 22 March 2024 15:39 (three weeks ago) link

I've never really warmed up to I Got the News

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 22 March 2024 15:42 (three weeks ago) link

On the doc it’s the only song not discussed at gets played during the end credits lol

calstars, Friday, 22 March 2024 16:40 (three weeks ago) link

I’ll admit the first 30 seconds are underwhelming but when McD comes in all is forgiven

calstars, Friday, 22 March 2024 16:40 (three weeks ago) link

victor feldman does his thing on that song

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 22 March 2024 16:43 (three weeks ago) link

What’s “Spanish kissing”anyway

calstars, Friday, 22 March 2024 16:48 (three weeks ago) link

Not sure but it glistens.

Yuck.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 22 March 2024 19:31 (three weeks ago) link

It's the "Green Earrings" of this record, just a chance to give the musicians an opportunity to show off.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 22 March 2024 19:33 (three weeks ago) link

Green Earrings is much better

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 22 March 2024 19:35 (three weeks ago) link

broadway duchess you monsters

brimstead, Friday, 22 March 2024 20:10 (three weeks ago) link

why they always gotta give McD the weirdest lines to sing in his weird voice

calstars, Friday, 22 March 2024 20:23 (three weeks ago) link

This is the Dan album I never feel like listening to but it's still fine

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 March 2024 20:25 (three weeks ago) link

brimstead otm what is this madness. I Got the News is incredible

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 22 March 2024 21:04 (three weeks ago) link

BLAAAAAAAAAAH - tss-pa-tss-oom-pa-tss-oom-papa - BLAAH BLAAH - tss-pa-tss-oom-pa-tss-oom-pa papatapa

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 22 March 2024 21:48 (three weeks ago) link

Steve Gadd karaoke

calstars, Friday, 22 March 2024 22:18 (three weeks ago) link

*ed greene karaoke.

fun fact, each track on aja has a different drummer

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Sunday, 24 March 2024 14:20 (three weeks ago) link

Doesn't Purdie play on both "Deacon Blues" and "Home at Last"?

Wreckless Erik Satie (SlimAndSlam), Sunday, 24 March 2024 23:42 (three weeks ago) link

you’re right, six drummers for seven songs

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 25 March 2024 02:36 (three weeks ago) link

not really backing vocals, are they? he only turns up during the bridge and sings lead on a couple of lines

The Michael McDonald backing vocals on “I Got the News” are the best and worst thing on the album.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 25 March 2024 14:47 (three weeks ago) link

ha i did listen to the song a couple times to see if i could catch any stray mcdonald harmonies during the verses

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 25 March 2024 14:53 (three weeks ago) link


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