What's the *BEST* album on Pitchfork's Sub Pop 20 staff list?

Earth 2

would give it to the Vaselines but seems kinda unfair including what is essentially a reissue

polls very much in character

i voted for my favorite which is not the same as the best.

no A-Frames Black Forest No Credibility

stuck between blue cathedral and superfuzz big muff.
although six finger satellite was dope i just haven't heard it in forever.

Whoa Spinanes! Yes, that is quite the record. Good call, PF.

it's kinda lame that S-K is on there just cuz that album happened to be on sub pop

BAKESALE!

Aren't there a few like that, though, M@tt?

SDRE, not sure if it's the best, whatever that means, but I love that record

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yeah i don't know all these records but i certainly wouldn't say the woods is even top 3 for a S-K record

Superfuzz Bigmuff, but I almost went w/ Velocity Girl

oh wait, that's the worst VG album, n/m

hi we're pitchfork, guess our age!

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Bakesale

hi we're anyone on ilx, guess our age

it's either You Turn Me On or Manos

BAKESALE!

-- roxymuzak, Friday, July 11, 2008 3:13 PM (Friday, July 11, 2008 3:13 PM) Bookmark Link

that was my choice as well.

You Turn Me On vs Manos vs Earth 2.

hi we're anyone on ilx, guess our age

aw, man. That obvious, huh?

I.am.old.

Sunny Day

xpost I need you to have a seat over here.

CODEINE!!!

surprised the fastbacks made the list.

it's kinda lame that S-K is on there just cuz that album happened to be on sub pop

It's definitely not fair; it's like putting John Coltrane in a poll with all of Lawrence Welk's saxophonists.

lolz I totally almost voted for the Codeine but then I doublechecked the list

yeah how dare they put an album that was released on Sub Pop on a list of albums that were released on Sub Pop...?

SDRE is my favorite album on that list. But my Sub Pop 20 has some pretty weird shit on it, I guess.

(Arlo - "Up High in the Night," first Beachwood Sparks album maybe, Steven Jesse Bernstein's spoken word album, Zumpano, maybe Scud Mountain Boys. And if re-issues count; shit, the Radio Birdman collection... etc. etc.)

oh wait, that's the worst VG album, n/m

Did the Sub Pop Vaselines comp come out before or after the All The Stuff And More comp?

still enjoy: The Creek Drank the Cradle, Superfuzz Bigmuff + Early Singles, Bakesale, Oh, Inverted World, The Woods
liked but never listen to: Congregation, Zücker, Rehab Doll / Dry as a Bone, Manos, The Way of the Vaselines
never heard: Frigid Stars, Blue Cathedral, Earth 2, Bleach, Bunny Gets Paid, The Pigeon Is the Most Popular Bird, Apologies to the Queen Mary
sold: You Turn Me On, Diary, ¡Simpatico!

Voting Mudhoney.

very fond of frigid stars, bleach, blue cathedral, superfuzz bigmuff and way of the vaselines

Earth followed by the Vaselines followed by Nirvana followed by Mudhoney followed by me not caring much about the rest of these records (although I do own Sebadoh and Beat Happening or at least I did once.)

15 albums from 1988-1997, 5 albums from 1998-2008

vaselines

torn between Bleach and Superfuzz

bakesale over superfuzz, vaselines felt like cheating

codeine.this record is a diamond

velocity girl

had no idea the codeine record was well-loved. at the time, I didn't know anybody else who even knew who they were. I still get "d for dishes..." stuck in my head from time to time

black forest otm

I enjoy The Postal Service, but somehow I'm happy to not see them here.

15 albums from 1988-1997, 5 albums from 1998-2008

With good reason.

I enjoy The Postal Service, but somehow I'm happy to not see them here.

It's alright, they've been heavily featured IN EVERY SINGLE OTHER ARTICLE about Sub Pop 20 I've seen.

close call but I went with Frigid Stars

(although it was originally released on Glitterhouse, but whatevs)

CODEINE!!!

-- Steve Shasta, Friday, July 11, 2008 8:36 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

that's the worst VG album, n/m

Milo, you must be one of approximately 4 people in the universe who think Gilded Stars and Zealous Hearts is better than Simpatico

Note: I kinda like that opinion, but could not possibly bring myself to share it.

more like sub-par 20, but 6fs ftw. shame there's no 'SMELL THE MAGIC'. sa blast

for me,

Congregation vs. Frigid Stars vs. Earth 2 vs. Bunny Gets Paid

Man... that's a great record. But I really think it's the two after that (Paranormalized, and Law of Ruins) where they really got out from under the Jesus Lizard-isms and got way more Krauty/weird/original/awesomest.

I prefer Severe Exposure. But I totally agree that the second half of SFS' career is better than the first (even though I'm a fan of that stuff, too). This band will eventually get its due as the forefathers of damn near every fusion of noise, punk, post-hardcore, krautrock and dance beats since 2000. These guys were referencing DAF WAY ahead of the curve.

Turning fey for a minute, My top 20 would probably include either the first or second Beachwood Sparks record.

There are certain bands that recorded for Sub Pop that were way better live, I think. The Fluid comes to mind. They were just devastating.

The Fluid's Glue 12" is a pretty good record. Most of their other stuff doesn't really do it for me though. Never saw them live.

No Tad + no Billy Childish = fuck this list.

buh-bah-buh-bah-buh-bah-beat happening.

Bakesale duh

Out of that list?
Codeine for its single minded, quiet, snail paced, lethargic rage.

New Year's is my favourite but really the whole lot is one big pathetic sigh. It's great. If I had the guts I would love to put it on at the next fucking BBQ I am invited to.

They even looked anaemic and depressed in their bleak black and white photos.
Perfect name too

New Year's was a cover wasn't it? Don't think I;ve ever heard Seam's original or maybe it just didn't leave a mark on me as I thought I had all of their stuff. Another fine band

I just realized... I'm surprised the first Band of Horses record isn't on the Pfork list. Those guys went nuts for that record, I think it ended up in their top ten of 2005(?) or very very close.

Man, I'd really love to vote for Codeine, but Superfuzz Bigmuff is the elephant in the room here. If the Velocity Girl album had been Copacetic, I just may have had to go with that.

Question for anyone who'll answer: What's missing from this list? As in, what belongs on a 'Sub Pop Top 20 Albums' list that's not actually here? We've mentioned a few alternate albums from bands that made the list -- what about bands that are missing entirely?

Nirvana, for "negative creep" and "love buzz"

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My top 20 would include Beachwood Sparks, Elevator to Hell and Mark Lanegan.

And quite possibly godheadsilo.

xpost Mark Lanegan OTM, that guy's put out several totally awesome records on sub pop.

speaking of Lanegan... my top 20 would include the Gutter Twins album, which came out this year. utterly soulful and captivating and in places brilliant. and Lanegan's vocals sound fantastic.

He's a phenomenal singer and serious talent.

Question for anyone who'll answer: What's missing from this list? As in, what belongs on a 'Sub Pop Top 20 Albums' list that's not actually here? We've mentioned a few alternate albums from bands that made the list -- what about bands that are missing entirely?

Tad
A-Frames
Kinski
Steve Fisk
Steve Jesse Bernstein
Pigeonhed
Wolf Eyes
Satchel
Pissed Jeans

collections:
Radio Birdman
Michael Yonkers

That's just top of my head. I'm sure there are tons more.

The Grifters, with arguably their worst output .
Scud Mountain Boys and Pernice Brothers?

The two Jennifer Gentle albums on Sub Pop rule too.

on a side note but related:

Sub Pop Captures the Space Needle!

Red Red Meat with Bunny Gets Paid: Taxidermy Blues in Reverse, Sad Cadillac, Chain Chain Chain, Rosewood, Wax, Voltz + Glitter, Idiot Son...

and about Bakesale - one of Lou Barlow's weaker outputs that gets way too much hype. I don't see what's great about this album at all.

Missing personal faves for me would include: Velocity Girl - Copacetic (as mentioned upthread); Jale - Dreamcake; Pond's first album; The Fluid - Glue / Roadmouth; (and though I know it'll never get the respect it truly deserves, not even on ILX) The Jesus & Mary Chain - Munki

and about Bakesale - one of Lou Barlow's weaker outputs that gets way too much hype. I don't see what's great about this album at all.

I agree. I think Lou misses Gaffney's edge on this one.

Should be on the list: Tad's Salt Lick (even better than God's Balls), Thee Headcoats' Heavens To Murgatroyd, Even! It's Thee Headcoats, the Billy Childish compilation I Am The Billy Childish and the Radio Birdman compilation (don't remember the title).

I'd like to've seen "Sound of Water" by St Et but I'd've voted Bleach anyway. Other choices Woods, Earth 2

BAKESALE!

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Mudhoney vs. Nirvana vs. Codeine

But my favourite album on the whole label I think is either Codeine's The White Birch or Rein Sanction's Broc's Cabin, which is like this huge beautiful forest of a record, but somehow it doesn't show up on anyone else's map.

voted superfuzz, but love Bakesale and When We Were Trees by Beachwood Sparks and Tad's God's Balls and The Practice Of Joy Before Death by Pond a huge amount as well.

torn between mudhoney and earth 2. this wouldn't be difficult if steven jesse bernstein's album was on the list.

agree that they picked the wrong six finger satellite album. I'd go with severe exposure but I can understand the love for law of ruins.

in related news, 6fs is back together and playing providence next month.

here are a bunch of early live sets from a sub pop fest in 92, including codeine and 6fs:
http://www.bradleysalmanac.com/2008/07/live-mp3s-celebrating-sub-pops-20th.htm

how are those Fastbacks and spinanes records?

the spinanes record is v v good

i'm gonna say that "Overcome By Happiness" by the Pernice Bros. is better than any of these records. But ummmm if I'm gonna vote, I guess it's going to be Iron & Wine.

CODEINE!!!

-- Steve Shasta, Friday, July 11, 2008 4:36 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Link

Oh, Inverted World

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Shins. Better than any of the grunge acts.

I'm going with Superfuzz by a nose over Bleach. I might have voted for these if they were there or at least they are Sub Pop records I really liked.

Red Red Meat - Jimmiewine Majestic
This is by far my favorite album they did.

Mudhoney - s/t

Six Finger Satillite - Severe Exposure or Law of Ruins
The Pidgeon is a good EP. These two are way better IMHO.

The Grifters - Ain't My Lookout

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

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jim otm

oh my god the shins?? you people are fucking crazy. i would vote that as one of the worst.

lives were changed

I totally would have voted for Green River, had I voted. Guess I should have. Amazed they got no votes.

i can't believe that The Shins won on ILM and by double the vote of the next closes band. amazing.

reading this thread i thought SeBADoh or maybe Nirvana was going to win. The Shins?

don't get me wrong as i love The Shins but they aren't the best, IMO.

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you guys really thought you weren't going to pay for the white album poll?

seBADoh

Hahahahahahaha!