In retrospect, Eminem kind of sucks right?

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Right? He's kind of awful.

The Brainwasher, Friday, 18 July 2008 01:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Always thought so, as a matter of fact.

Oilyrags, Friday, 18 July 2008 01:14 (fifteen years ago) link

yep

Creeztophair, Friday, 18 July 2008 01:14 (fifteen years ago) link

now this looks like a job for me
so everybody just follow me
cos we need a little challopsy

jabba hands, Friday, 18 July 2008 01:26 (fifteen years ago) link

smh

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 July 2008 01:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Regardless of whether or not you acutally enjoy listening to his records, his talent for wordplay & (lyrical) cadence is pretty much indisputable (especially when he's free-styling, obv)

Personally, I would:

Search - His twisted murder fantasies & self-loathing introspection tracks; dis tracks

Destroy - All his post-Eminem Show output; His daughter-ballads, mom fuck-yous; & the entirety of his cheapo toilet humor (not that I don't enjoy the occasional poop joke, he just does that schtick in a particularly annoying way); Most aspects of his production style (the parts he didn't steal outright from Dr Dre, I guess); All his boy-band ranting didn't age to well, either, did it?

Again with the obvious but, if nothing else, "Stan" is a sterling pop masterpiece & even tho the lyrics are a bit corny, "Lose Yourself" just sounds fucking brilliant. Both are, and will likely remain, two of the more memorable hit singles of the decade.

Pillbox, Friday, 18 July 2008 01:52 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_myEtM24I

best eminem related thing

deej, Friday, 18 July 2008 02:00 (fifteen years ago) link

When did Eminem not suck?

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 18 July 2008 02:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, why the bollocking fuck is Eminem in my phone's dictionary but apricot, custard and bollock are not?

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 18 July 2008 02:19 (fifteen years ago) link

still gotta love the ems

I never meant to give you mushrooms, girl
I never meant to bring you to my world
Now you sitting in the corner crying
And now it's my fault -- my fault

Surmounter, Friday, 18 July 2008 02:20 (fifteen years ago) link

haha surmounter is convincing

deej, Friday, 18 July 2008 02:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I wish he'd release a new album.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 18 July 2008 02:21 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.freewebs.com/ajaxwidowmaker/Eminem_170154g.jpg

gr8080, Friday, 18 July 2008 02:22 (fifteen years ago) link

best eminem related thing

-- deej, Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:00 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JTgg7VulOY

and what, Friday, 18 July 2008 02:27 (fifteen years ago) link

In retrospect, Eminem kind of sucks right?

musically, Friday, 18 July 2008 02:36 (fifteen years ago) link

wait he dissed alyssa fuck him

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 July 2008 02:40 (fifteen years ago) link

well yes.. he's as much a guilty pleasure as something like limp bizkit. not the worst, but at the time he was absolutely the most overhyped thing in music.

billstevejim, Friday, 18 July 2008 02:54 (fifteen years ago) link

whatever like that song didn't rule your world

Surmounter, Friday, 18 July 2008 02:55 (fifteen years ago) link

=]

Surmounter, Friday, 18 July 2008 02:55 (fifteen years ago) link

he's as much a guilty pleasure as something like limp bizkit. not the worst, but at the time he was absolutely the most overhyped thing in music.

-- billstevejim, Friday, July 18, 2008 2:54 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

this is the part of the thread where i ask if you have sat and listened to any of the albums

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:01 (fifteen years ago) link

uh oh!!!

Surmounter, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I used to hate Eminem, but I've completely turned around this year...So many genius singles! "Stan"! "My Name is"! "Guilty Conscience"! etc.

I haven't heard the Slim Shady/Marshall Mather LPs, but I see they both have five-star ratings on AMG. Weird!

Tape Store, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:04 (fifteen years ago) link

i know, right!!?>!?

gr8080, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:04 (fifteen years ago) link

this is the part of the thread where i ask if you have sat and listened to any of the albums

Are you serious? If you had friends between the years 1999 and 2002 or listened to the radio at all, Eminem was unavoidable. Believe me, I tried. (Although I have successfully gone without ever hearing Creed's "My Sacrifice" but only because I was forced to put my hands over my ears and hum other songs to myself while it blasted from bar jukeboxes or at other functions.. I'm sure I looked foolish, but at least I've never heard "My Sacrifice.")

billstevejim, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I've heard the 1st 2 albums.

billstevejim, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:13 (fifteen years ago) link

You don't wanna fuck with Shady, cos shady will fucking kill you.

catchy

billstevejim, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:17 (fifteen years ago) link

They call me Slim Shady, I'm black, I'm black.. wait, thats not what he's singing...

billstevejim, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Forgive me if my hackles raise when you compare one of the best rappers of the 90s to Froederick fucking Durst.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Like seriously, do you just hear them and your brain goes *WHITE GUY RAPPING URRGG* cause I mean in a post-"Jump Around" world I totally feel you but come on

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Eminem didn't bother me as much as his idiotic fans did.

Alex in NYC, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Cold blooded.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:29 (fifteen years ago) link

hoos don't stop the love

Surmounter, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:30 (fifteen years ago) link

was eminem a rapper of the 90s??? am i that fucking old?

deeznuts, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:30 (fifteen years ago) link

They call me Slim Shady, I'm black, I'm black.. wait, thats not what he's singing...

-- billstevejim, Friday, July 18, 2008 3:18 AM (9 minutes ago)

dang!

Lingbert, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry, I spoke without really thinking because I haven't listened to him in years.. Eminem now strikes me as an extreme guilty pleasure because every single from The Eminem Show and the last D12 album were just as bad as Limp Bizkit, and since that's his most recent solo material, it's what came to mind first..

billstevejim, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:32 (fifteen years ago) link

# 1999: The Slim Shady LP
# 2000: The Marshall Mathers LP
# 2002: The Eminem Show
# 2004: Encore

answer to self: no

deeznuts, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:33 (fifteen years ago) link

haha I meant Encore!!

billstevejim, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:34 (fifteen years ago) link

fair enough xxp

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:35 (fifteen years ago) link

also fair enough xp

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:36 (fifteen years ago) link

however many xs yall know wtf i'm talkin baout

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:36 (fifteen years ago) link

what hoos is talkin baout: In retrospect,Eminem kind of sucks right?

deeznuts, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:38 (fifteen years ago) link

this duder is shit in any colour

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:39 (fifteen years ago) link

They call me Slim Shady, I'm black, I'm black.. wait, thats not what he's singing...
-- billstevejim, Friday, July 18, 2008 3:18 AM (9 minutes ago)
dang!

I always wished he was actually singing those words. Afterall he's the Eminem, chocolate on the inside, candy coating on the outside. Get it LOL?!?!

billstevejim, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:39 (fifteen years ago) link

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh wahtthehell

deeznuts, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Marshall Mathers

gr8080, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:42 (fifteen years ago) link

;)

gr8080, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:42 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe he's not really white btw ;)

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh come on, the "chocolate on the inside" thing had to be intentional.

billstevejim, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:45 (fifteen years ago) link

no you come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gr8080, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I kinda love "Purple Pills."

billstevejim, Friday, 18 July 2008 03:48 (fifteen years ago) link

arrested development > am0n

gabbneb, Friday, 18 July 2008 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link

kd lang = gabbneb

am0n, Friday, 18 July 2008 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link

pff eminem wuz great before he started takin himself so srsly. bonnie n clyde man bonnie n clyde

Pooping Christ, Friday, 18 July 2008 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link

in retrospect, eminem was pretty good, pretty overrated and unfairly hated, all at once

deej, Friday, 18 July 2008 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link

calling his albums 'masterpieces' always sounds ridiculous. they were just as flawed as any records put out by rappers that folks around here ignore

deej, Friday, 18 July 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I think deej is pretty much on it, here. I loathe him but recognize his talent, I just think he mostly wasted it - but I'm a cornie indie rap fuxxor. Which for me means I hate his voice and never was feeling Dre's Chronic 2001 and after production.

Oilyrags, Friday, 18 July 2008 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Feel free to point out that I think Talib Kweli used to be really, really good and therefore my opinions are null and void.

Oilyrags, Friday, 18 July 2008 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link

never liked much of his stuff and found the critical fawning and fanbase annoying. I guess a few of his singles are okay ("My Name Is", for ex.). But "Stan"? fuck that shit

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 July 2008 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link

can a mod please add "i'm white btw" to every post on this thread

n/a, Friday, 18 July 2008 16:15 (fifteen years ago) link

you 35 and you still rappin? UHHHHH

-- The Brainwasher, Friday, July 18, 2008 12:36 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Link

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 July 2008 16:21 (fifteen years ago) link

i always thought the marilyn manson of rap cult that surrounded him was wacky as fuck and good for lols but you can stack these 6 up with any consecutive 6 singles by any artist this decade and that's more than enough for me

"My Name Is"
"Guilty Conscience" (feat. Dr. Dre)
"Bitch Please II" (feat. Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Xzibit, & Nate Dogg)
"The Real Slim Shady"
"The Way I Am"
"Stan" (feat. Dido)

J0rdan S., Friday, 18 July 2008 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Bitch Please II is so amazing

Tracer Hand, Friday, 18 July 2008 16:28 (fifteen years ago) link

cuz you don't really wanna fuck with me
only nigga that i trust is me
fuck around and make me bust this heat........

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Friday, 18 July 2008 16:28 (fifteen years ago) link

You got the munchies
Look at you, junk-food junkie
Potato chips and lunchmeat
Up in the front seat

Eazy, Friday, 18 July 2008 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link

can a mod please add "i'm white btw" to every post on this thread

uh

HI DERE, Friday, 18 July 2008 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link

just a bit of fun, be cool

n/a, Friday, 18 July 2008 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link

alternately: jokes, bruv

n/a, Friday, 18 July 2008 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I like Eminem, but I also like Princess Superstar...

Ask me a question, I love to lie, hey look girl is that Jimi Hendrix?
'Scuse me while I kiss your guy
Everyone tells me I'm the female Eminem, well all I'm gonna talk about is getting fucked up the ass then
Don't be mad Em I'm just playin, I wish I had a Dr. Dre and sold out shows,
One million white faces in Dayton

Finefinemusic, Friday, 18 July 2008 16:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow, is there ever some crazy talk on this thread, especially early on. Thanks to HOOS, deeznuts, John D., and gabbneb, et al, for righting the ship.

the best stuff on Slim Shady LP, Marshall Mathers LP, and a few later tracks ("My Dad's Gone Crazy") was dense, funny, smart,conflicted, and fascinating then and no different now.

I mean, Marshall Mathers LP is surefire Album of the Decade contender.

Hubie Brown, Friday, 18 July 2008 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Whoa I tried to read this thread but it got a bit long. Crazy stuff in here.

I always liked Em's voice, it's got way more character and appeal to me than a lotta rappers out there. His flows are great. The hooks are obnoxious, he's totally snotty, beats are catchy and often sorta ridiculous...I think he's awesome.

A scattershot of otms for j0hn, hoos, neb, nuts, (like Hubie was sayin)

RabiesAngentleman, Friday, 18 July 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't got that bad of a mouth do I
fuck shit ass bitch cunt shoobadeedoowhop
Ohh, skibadeebeebop, christopher reeves
sonny bono, skis, horses, and hittin some trees....

awesome album

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Friday, 18 July 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

The guy's a character and massively entertaining.

RabiesAngentleman, Friday, 18 July 2008 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link

"You know why Dre's record was so successful? He's rapping about big-screen TVs, blunts, 40s, and bitches. You're rapping about homosexuals and Vicodin. I can't sell this shit."

Hubie Brown, Friday, 18 July 2008 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

My English teacher wanted TO DEFLONT ME IN JUNIOR HIGH
THANKS ALONT NEXT SEMESTER I WILL BE 35

usic, Friday, 18 July 2008 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link

JAZZ HANDS!
http://www.thewhitepapers.com/eminem%20-%20not%20so%20fast.jpg

velko, Friday, 18 July 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Then EM SHOW came out. I totally hate that record save maybe "White America" and :"Business" and maybe one other song.

Square Dance is one of my faves of his

otm tho, rest of that album kinda sux

dmr, Friday, 18 July 2008 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link

loved his diss tracks on the Source and Benzino during that whole feud

"The Sauce" and uh what was the other one. forgot the title

dmr, Friday, 18 July 2008 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuZuiKr85Vs

dmr, Friday, 18 July 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

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usic, Friday, 18 July 2008 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link

can a mod please add "i'm white btw" to every post on this thread

uh pt 2

lex pretend, Friday, 18 July 2008 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link

emineddie murphy

usic, Friday, 18 July 2008 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link

oh, how did i forget "square dance"? that was great.

the "without me" video was total lolz, esp. when he's dressed like osama and the d12 dudes are chasing him around...

Beatrix Kiddo, Friday, 18 July 2008 18:45 (fifteen years ago) link

"Stan" and all the foofaw around it was great entertainment

Dr Morbius, Friday, 18 July 2008 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link

"fuck that, take drugs, rape sluts, make fun of gay clubs, men who wear makeup...."

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Friday, 18 July 2008 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I didn't realize that people actually, sincerely liked "Square Dance" before today.

HI DERE, Friday, 18 July 2008 19:34 (fifteen years ago) link

"You learn something new every day."

Beatrix Kiddo, Friday, 18 July 2008 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I was reaaaaaaaaally let down by The Eminem Show. I'm not against the "silly rapper decides to become more serious" album, but it really didn't sound like Eminem was up to the task. Not to mention the beats become more overdramatic and his meter was more subdued and predictable.

I did like "Soldier" a lot from that one, though. Really in my eyes, just buy Slim shady lp and Marshall Mathers LP

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Friday, 18 July 2008 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

My Dad's Gone Crazy and Square Dance are the best tracks on The Eminem Show. Encore is a better album.

gabbneb, Friday, 18 July 2008 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link

i only pay attention when he's (ostnesibly) funny - my name is, without me, guilty conscience, real slim shady

will, Friday, 18 July 2008 20:29 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...

HE SUCKS.

Pitchfork.com, a music recommendation Web site (The Brainwasher), Saturday, 16 October 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

he's no tech n9ne.

scott seward, Saturday, 16 October 2010 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link

loved Eminem's stuff back in the day, but now I know why they call it windowpane

markers, Saturday, 16 October 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

actually, I probably would still like his older singles

markers, Saturday, 16 October 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

bitch please pt II still ownez

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 16 October 2010 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PANEcjhSfv4

j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Saturday, 16 October 2010 19:54 (thirteen years ago) link

He sucks now. The Slim Shady LP is classic.

The Brand Most Dentists Smoke... (Viceroy), Saturday, 16 October 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XIoXLQUbvs

scott seward, Saturday, 16 October 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD10kWdwxjs

scott seward, Saturday, 16 October 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i can't believe that "what is love"-sampling song is actually being promoted as a single

teledyldonix, Saturday, 16 October 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

On the grossness of "Love the Way You Live."

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 December 2017 04:42 (six years ago) link


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