Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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I just read about this. Apparently some kind of streaming iTunes looking service with rights to all the majors cleared. Could be interesting? If nothing else just to see it fail miserably...

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 08:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

trying this now. blatant rip of itunes design-wise but looks better in many ways. all i really want to do with it is listen to whole albums easily and it seems to let you do that very well (i haven't heard the ads yet tho).

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 12:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

20 second xbox ad came in after 5 songs. not bad really.

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 12:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

needs last.fm support asap

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 13:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

the ads don't bother me that much either, haven't noticed if 5 songs is always the limit? in any case it's 5 songs of any length, and you can listen to "In C" for example straight through which is cool.

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

I love it!

I think there is progress towards spotify scrobbling happening here:

http://www.last.fm/group/Scrobble+for+Spotify

Stevie T, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

carsmile sent this link: http://code.google.com/p/scrobblify/

scrobbles perfectly

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

for Windows maybe!

Stevie T, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 15:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah this looks terrific, I like how easy it makes it to dip into artists with huge discographies.

Although I haven't actually listened yet, just been browsing so far.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

i am so in love with this thing <3

king lame (c sharp major), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

some artist tag crapness tho

Teahouse Foxtrot (blueski), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

the radio is fun for discovering things totally insane and cheesy

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 16:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh wow the quality is actually pretty good.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 19:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

The radio thing is indeed cool. I'm trying to get it to find me some techno from the 50s.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 19:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

the quality is good, the range not so much, but this could well prove useful.

country matters, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 19:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

Presumably the range will increase as they agree deals with more record companies? It seems fine for major label stuff and a quick search for eg Kompakt pulls up a lot.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

does it pass the melt banana test?

koogs, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

the range seems identical to what's on 7digital (and therefore itunes i think). eg they have trina's first and third albums but inexplicably not her second or fourth. i dunno how much use i'll have for spotify but kudos for how well it works, the quality of the tracks etc - the tags need ironing out but i'm sure they'll do this in time.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

actually it'll be most useful for stuff like the goldfrapp album this year - i didn't really expect to love it but i wanted to hear it, so obv i wouldn't buy it but couldn't be arsed blagging it. that's a ton of consumer laziness in there.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 20:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

oh god i should've said i was american! fuck. could've got access to all the hip-hop and r&b which never makes it over to this godforsaken, miserable island.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 21:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

Do they have a license for the US now? I don't think they did a couple of weeks ago...

Four MB albums, Deano: Teeny Shiny, Bambi's Dilemma, Charlie and Scratch or Stitch.

Stevie T, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 21:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

does not work in australia yet

Suggesteban Buttez (jabba hands), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 22:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

Just searched for The Recession and that shows up in its entirety, and it hasn't been released here at all right?

It's really good for the one-album playback when you've no idea if you'll like it or not and can't be arsed downloading.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah i'm basically going through albums i've been wondering about checking out but didn't have the hd space for.

king lame (c sharp major), Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

no the recession was released here, but the label didn't bother telling the pr - she only realised when she looked on amazon and found it had been there for a fortnight

lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

"80s funk house disco" radio suggests Jive Bunny and the Mastermixers!

ailsa, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

> Four MB albums, Deano

thanks. we don't have any, amazon.co.uk mp3 store has scratch n stitch and a couple of tracks from compilations, emusic had a lot... all these people seem to be getting their info from the same places though, they all make the same mistakes (search for broadcast on amazon - details are about duophonic / warp broadcast but the listed albums aren't)

koogs, Thursday, 4 December 2008 09:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

One detail I like: when it gets to the end of what I've queued up, it just continues with the current album without me needing to ask it to. (I suppose I can see how someone might not like this, though.)

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 4 December 2008 19:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

Finally got round to sorting scrobbling for this (there's a windows messenger box ticked by default in the last.fm client that somehow stops Scrobblify from working). So far I'm really liking Spotify - handy for hearng stuff you randomly think on that you haven't got in your library or for legal trying before you buy. The adverts don't annoy me in the slightest.

slag move (onimo), Thursday, 4 December 2008 22:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

fails Boredoms test :(

slag move (onimo), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

anyone got a spotfiy INVITE?

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

If not, try the "oooh ask me please!" option on the website ("Get started" -> email in "Not invited?" field). Took about five days for me, was surprised to get it at all actually.

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

jordan, webmail me an email address to send an invite to.

slag move (onimo), Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

didn't get asked for an invite here, just got straight in

stet, Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

This is amazing! You type in what you want to listen to, and then you are listening to it. all this needs is to work on an iphone, and then i'll buy an iphone, and then i will have achieved bliss.

Slumpman, Sunday, 7 December 2008 12:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

Mine appears to have made it through an album without giving me any adverts. Maybe they've bumped me up to a pro account without realising it.

Matt DC, Sunday, 14 December 2008 14:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

you can now scrobble to last.fm from within spotify (it's in 'preferences')

braveclub, Sunday, 21 December 2008 12:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

That's handy, saves me running that scrobblify thing at the same time.

Spotify lists 'The Prodigy' as 'Prodigy' and makes last.fm think this guy sings Smack My Bitch Up and Out of Space
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/17704623.jpg

dj onimotian (onimo), Sunday, 21 December 2008 13:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

can someone please send me an invite?

thanks!!

kaiser, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

Er....

https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

Think there's still a waiting list though.

<3 this service btw.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

Got in straight away with the link I posted.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

Aha they've obviously opened it up!

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

Downside is loads more ads (I've heard two during the same album), but you can hear them coming after a while and tune out. Still great.

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

thanks Chewshabadoo but I need an invitation code.

Please!

kaiser, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

If i hear gareth jones from cardiff reciting pi again i'll scream

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

(advert)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

And I'm not buying that White Lies record either.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

At least it doesn't scrobble the adverts

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

jonathan from spotify sounds remarkably like Michael Vaughan

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

I got a Momus that wasn't Hippopotamomus in my tastebreakers.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Saturday, 8 December 2018 10:51 (one month ago) Permalink

As mentioned, my tastebreakers gave me Momus (I am a kitten) - and Brian Wilson, and Prince. There were also 2 Cornelius songs, and an outright obsession with 'Gimme Shelter', with 2 cover versions (Cal Tjader and Ruth Copeland) and a Merry Clayton song.

But I do like the playlist a lot, so a good AI result.

Luna Schlosser, Saturday, 8 December 2018 11:04 (one month ago) Permalink

No Momus here (two by "Mocky" however). But I see Dennis Wilson, and I raise yall two Helado Negros. And two "Swamp Dogg" and Ryuichi Sakamotos. Even-numbered years are Hosono years in my household.

Anyway thanks computers (and Glenn!). I'll check all this out...

maffew12, Saturday, 8 December 2018 12:48 (one month ago) Permalink

My 2018 thing is quite indicative of the fact that I quit Spotify halfway thru the year and got Apple Music, and also I pretty much only listen to stuff the algorithms pick for me. Many of the tracks on my “top songs” I have no memory of ever having heard in my life. It still told me I am “adventurous” lol

Pierrot with a thousand farces (wins), Saturday, 8 December 2018 13:20 (one month ago) Permalink

No Momus here (two by "Mocky" however). But I see Dennis Wilson, and I raise yall two Helado Negros. And two "Swamp Dogg" and Ryuichi Sakamotos. Even-numbered years are Hosono years in my household.

I enjoy this implication that Dominic Salole and Jerry Williams are big lying fakers, but Momus and Helado Negro are pure, honest artistes representing their true selves

sans lep (sic), Saturday, 8 December 2018 19:32 (one month ago) Permalink

just indicating my unfamiliarity, which is the goal of the thing. Mocky is another five-letter name that starts with "Mo", what a larf. Didn't get to them yet but Swamp Dogg is quite nice and I see there's a thread here!

maffew12, Saturday, 8 December 2018 20:15 (one month ago) Permalink

Adding to the chorus: my tastebreakers starts off Dennis Wilson - Momus - Momus - Swamp Dogg.

dorsalstop, Saturday, 8 December 2018 20:43 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm very keen on my Tastebreakers, but it seems to consist almost exclusively of cover versions, five of them Lennon-McCartney songs.

Alba, Monday, 10 December 2018 12:17 (one month ago) Permalink

weird. do you listen to a lot of Beatles? Computer thinks covers in other styles are gonna blow your mind! Whatever the algorithm is, this is a lot better than a typical Discover Weekly for me.

maffew12, Monday, 10 December 2018 12:23 (one month ago) Permalink

I had a bit of a Beatles binge recently with the release of the remixed White Album, yeah.

Maybe I also listen to more cover versions than other people, I dunno. I doubt Spotify metadata records whether something is a cover but I guess if people tend to make playlists of covers it learns from that. Here is my Tastebreakers in case anyone wants to hear it. Enjoying the Meters' version of Witchita Lineman right now:

https://open.spotify.com/user/spotify/playlist/37i9dQZF1EiZ6FMrDqu7UW?si=8_QKBX59QfqTZ-U5ZNmV9w

Alba, Monday, 10 December 2018 13:29 (one month ago) Permalink

Wichita!

Alba, Monday, 10 December 2018 13:30 (one month ago) Permalink

I'd be shocked if it didn't have metadata indicating it's a cover. There's a lot more metadata than what we see in the client.

Does anyone know how generated playlists are sequenced? They seem to flow well enough to me, and I suspect it's not just randomized. Anyone who's used the integration with "djay"* can see that there's good BPM metadata.

*Quotation marks to help lowercase-stylized software name stand out. Program is very legit.

maffew12, Monday, 10 December 2018 13:39 (one month ago) Permalink

Oh, I WISH we had metadata indicating covers. Currently, no.

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 10 December 2018 13:45 (one month ago) Permalink

I love djay's Spotify integration and wish I had more time to play with it. Just having the BPM and musical key information is great in itself (does djay generate this itself or does it come from the API?)

Alba, Monday, 10 December 2018 13:48 (one month ago) Permalink

In principle, there's no such thing as a "cover", though, is there? Or rather, every recording is a "cover" of the abstract song which is a separate entity, at least legally? Maybe not a discussion for this thread.

anatol_merklich, Monday, 10 December 2018 14:08 (one month ago) Permalink

I would hope that the djay/spotify integration is good enough that a track only needs to be analysed for bpm/key once by any client and then synced back to spotify?

Siegbran, Monday, 10 December 2018 14:33 (one month ago) Permalink

I always enjoy hearing the covers after one of my cover binges.

Also have been impressed with having the source tracks pop up after I've heard them sampled elsewhere.

✈️✈️ (pplains), Monday, 10 December 2018 14:39 (one month ago) Permalink

Finally got the new Roku app. It's pretty disappointing. It looks a bit better than the old one, but the functionality is meager. The one thing I want to do, play my playlists is hampered by the fact that it seems to only be able to handle smaller lists. The main list I play has 800 tracks, but shuffle mode only plays like the first 200 on the list. It's very frustrating. You can clearly see it queues up a much wider variety of tracks on my phone and PC, but when I switch to roku, most of the songs drop out of the queue.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 14 December 2018 05:59 (one month ago) Permalink

feel like i only use this on my commute anymore, starting to wonder if i can go without it which would have been unthinkable to me a few years ago

ciderpress, Monday, 17 December 2018 14:04 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Today my workplace banned Spotify. Well then, that's it.

doug watson, Monday, 17 December 2018 14:59 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Why?

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 17 December 2018 15:19 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Gotta be bandwidth related.

✈️✈️ (pplains), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:04 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Does that include on a personal device offline?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 17 December 2018 16:18 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Ya, it was a bandwidth issue. No Bandcamp as of today either, although soundcloud and (curiously) youtube are still available. But I have little use for Spotify outside of the work environment so will need to rethink my ongoing subscription.

doug watson, Monday, 17 December 2018 16:25 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Ya, personal devices are fine. I'll need to load a lot more music on my phone for tomorrow. My point in posting is that this really brought home the limitations of streaming.

doug watson, Monday, 17 December 2018 16:26 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Apple Music?

Siegbran, Monday, 17 December 2018 16:36 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Does Apple Music offer a web interface? We can't download apps to our work laptops

doug watson, Monday, 17 December 2018 16:50 (four weeks ago) Permalink

is the youtube music service available where you are, doug? feels like it might come closest to what you need. i don’t believe there is an apple music web app, and the eyes water slightly imagining what such a thing might be like.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 14:10 (four weeks ago) Permalink

wait, can you use the spotify web player?

Fizzles, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 14:12 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Nope, spotify.com is now a banned site so the web player is accessible from the office. Thanks for the Youtube Music suggestion, that might be an option.

doug watson, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 14:40 (four weeks ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Can @SpotifyUK explain how these complete strangers were able to upgrade my Spotify plan so I've been paying for them to have Premium for the last few months? Your website has no obvious way of getting in touch with you directly. pic.twitter.com/QKjT3DxwJ3

— Carmen D'Cruz (@carmenego) January 7, 2019

This seems pretty bad - I also just found someone squatting in my Premium account. And not only is there no 2FA on Spotify, they don't even send you emails on new device logins, or when people are added to your plan.

stet, Monday, 7 January 2019 12:54 (one week ago) Permalink

I was trying to see if I had any squatters, but of what page is the tweet a screenshot? Where can I find it? Can't see a list of sorts on https://www.spotify.com/uk/account/overview/

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 7 January 2019 13:18 (one week ago) Permalink

It's in here: https://www.spotify.com/uk/family/overview/ - if you don't have a family plan (and they haven't moved you to one) then you won't see a list. There's no way I know of to see what devices are using your single account (which they were also doing to me) other than noticing your play history filling up with stuff you haven't played.

Security does seem pretty antiquated, tbh: their "how to secure your account" page is basically six different ways of saying "have a good password"

stet, Monday, 7 January 2019 14:53 (one week ago) Permalink

thx just found two accounts on there that i didn't recognize

Mordy, Monday, 7 January 2019 15:15 (one week ago) Permalink

If you do, kick them off, change your password and then hit the “sign out everywhere” link

stet, Monday, 7 January 2019 15:24 (one week ago) Permalink

Ah I see, thx Stet. Don't have a family plan, so I guess there is no way of knowing if I have some leechers or not.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 7 January 2019 15:24 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah, I didn't realize I had squatters on my account until I got one of those "You're already listening on device: xxxxx" things and then saw that my recently played was full of latin trap.

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 7 January 2019 15:30 (one week ago) Permalink

almost disappointed that my account is squatter free.

large bananas pregnant (ledge), Monday, 7 January 2019 15:35 (one week ago) Permalink

I had this going on, too. I only found out because my last.fm logs looked weird. I changed my password and it looks to be sorted now.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Monday, 7 January 2019 16:47 (one week ago) Permalink

So this new square mobile layout is ruining my day. I went into the app (iphone) to look for the new riddim where Mavado has one of the songs. Previously I would find it under the heading "appears on" on Mavado's artist page. But now the "appears on" section is gone. I can click the discography, but it only gives me the latest release, his albums and singles, with 2013 apparently working as some sort of cut off point for the singles - dancehall artists usually have a lot of them and Mavado's been active for more than a decade. So in order to find the song now, I apparently need to know what the title of the riddim is first. Since I had already playlisted it, I found out. It's the Time Machine Riddim and the song is Me Alright, but the next time a dancehall artist I follo hops on a riddim I probably won't be able to find it. Not alright. Sigh.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 11 January 2019 15:36 (five days ago) Permalink

That’s terrible. I don’t have that (yet?) but I see there’s an update waiting in the App Store. I did have a scare this morning when on the Now Playing screen, instead of the repeat button, there suddenly was a ‘love this track’ button on the left and a ‘don’t like this track’ button on the right. Do you have that too? It has gone back to normal for me (for now), but all of this has me fearing the update.

breastcrawl, Friday, 11 January 2019 15:58 (five days ago) Permalink

On Android I have those two buttons instead of shuffle/repeat when playing from Release Radar, Discover Weekly and Daily Mix 1 etc, but not when playing from other playlists, searches, etc. Makes sense for improving the automatic playlists, I suppose?

anatol_merklich, Friday, 11 January 2019 16:42 (five days ago) Permalink

No "love" and "dislike" button yet, fortunately, but the save this track button now looks like a heart. Stay away from the update if you can.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 11 January 2019 17:03 (five days ago) Permalink

Wasn't it a heart way back in the day, too?

Dan I., Friday, 11 January 2019 17:50 (five days ago) Permalink

it was a star I think

silverfish, Friday, 11 January 2019 17:51 (five days ago) Permalink

The absence of "Appears On" is a temporary glitch, it will be back soon!

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 11 January 2019 19:15 (five days ago) Permalink

Phew!

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:33 (five days ago) Permalink

yeah, I didn't realize I had squatters on my account until I got one of those "You're already listening on device: xxxxx" things and then saw that my recently played was full of latin trap.


Had the same issue and hit on an excellent solution - since I could see the song they were playing on my phone remotely , I jacked the volume to 11. They lowered it and I would raise it back up. Fun!

calstars, Friday, 11 January 2019 21:21 (five days ago) Permalink

i'm hitting up against the limit of # of tracks you can have saved again for the 3rd time and thsi time i'm running out of things i don't really care about to remove from my library. really wish they would just double the limit or something, that'd give me another 6 or 7 years of not having to worry about it. or else have saving albums work differently than just saving all the tracks as it appears to do, since i only care about albums and would rather be able to just save 2000 albums than 10000 tracks

ciderpress, Sunday, 13 January 2019 16:15 (three days ago) Permalink

new version of Android app no longer has Albums, Singles, and EPs available for each artist on separate pages. Instead some of their music is in a single row called Releases that you can scroll through horizontally. Presumably there is supposed to be more detail if you click a See More button below Releases, but that button doesn't seem to do anything.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 13 January 2019 16:27 (three days ago) Permalink


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