And i do that on my Android phone as well.
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Thursday, 4 October 2018 06:34 (five years ago) link
The truther part really ramps up when I hit shuffle, then pull up the queue and carefully inspect it, then play the last song in the queue, so that it refreshes, then inspect it again, over and over, looking for clues.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 4 October 2018 13:48 (five years ago) link
haha
― niels, Thursday, 4 October 2018 14:09 (five years ago) link
are some people are upset because shuffle isn't playing the stuff they want to hear? that's now how shuffle works
I mean sure it's sometimes going to play three songs from the same album relatively close together or will play some songs and albums more than others, this happens because it's random.
― silverfish, Thursday, 4 October 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link
https://saintlad.com/spotify-shuffle-play-is-not-random/
― sleeve, Thursday, 4 October 2018 14:51 (five years ago) link
Spotify responds:
https://labs.spotify.com/2014/02/28/how-to-shuffle-songs/
― sleeve, Thursday, 4 October 2018 14:52 (five years ago) link
Yeah, that's pretty old, doesn't really address the problem I'm seeing.
I get that actual random shuffling will sometimes give you three on a row from the same album or whatever.
The issue I have is that I can shuffle and reshuffle all I want, but it refuses to play tracks from specific albums. This happens with new albums that I add to my list. It always takes a few weeks at a minimum before it starts showing tracks from certain new albums in the shuffle queue.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 4 October 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link
Ok, I work at Spotify but I don't work on Shuffle, but I still have to ask: if you want to hear some stuff from specific albums, why don't you just play those? Or make a shorter "recent discoveries" playlist instead of hoping any semi-randomizer happens to hit the 1% or .1% you want it to from your big list?
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 4 October 2018 19:49 (five years ago) link
so this is my shorter recent discoveries list, and it's closer to about 10% of tracks that just never come up. I do indeed end up listening to those individual records on their own outside of the shuffle, but my preference is to mix it up and just let it play. I suspect if I dig far enough down into the queue these tracks will eventually show up, but it's strange that they get pushed to the bottom.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 4 October 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link
if you want to hear some stuff from specific albums, why don't you just play those
lazyness certainly plays a big part in my use of shuffle
sometimes when I don't know what I want to hear I go to Songs (I've saved tons of albums to my "virtual record collection") and press shuffle, result is usually very enjoyable, inspiring
I also have a few playlists, for instance my favorite tracks from 2018 list, that I frequently update and where I can't really remember the content, so I often listen to it on shuffle
but somehow, after hours and hours of shuffling these playlists, I have a distinct feeling that (a few) certain songs come up again and again while other songs never come up, and so the shuffle thing doesn't work that well for keeping me acquainted with what's on my lists
I can't really be bothered to put in hours to verify if I'm crazy or if there's a glitch in the programming, but my impression certainly is that the shuffle function isn't perfect, and sometimes I'll shuffle the sequencing manually (similar effect to sorting alphabetically, but you can do it over and over) to improve the shuffle experience
― niels, Friday, 5 October 2018 09:39 (five years ago) link
https://uploadir.com/u/u46ogbxx.gif
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 5 October 2018 10:20 (five years ago) link
idgi
― niels, Friday, 5 October 2018 10:21 (five years ago) link
he’s sequencing his shuffle (American sports slang™)
― breastcrawl, Friday, 5 October 2018 10:55 (five years ago) link
I wonder if pseudo randomization works best for smaller sized lists, and that the weird effects of true randomization are less noticeable with larger lists.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 5 October 2018 12:51 (five years ago) link
Is there a way to sync the mobile app with the desktop app, in terms of recent searches, last album played, etc.? The two apps seem to keep those details entirely separate (even though I'm signed in to my acct. on both); so it's not "seamless" to switch from one to other (i.e., from desk to car).
― brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Friday, 5 October 2018 19:45 (five years ago) link
lol, the banner photo for Roger Eno is a picture of Brian Eno
― WmC, Saturday, 6 October 2018 02:33 (five years ago) link
I will try to figure out who controls that, and tell them...
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 6 October 2018 02:43 (five years ago) link
that would be his own record company, right?
― niels, Saturday, 6 October 2018 10:14 (five years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/oct/05/10-years-of-spotify-should-we-celebrate-or-despair?CMP=share_btn_fb
Amusing to read that the 'pro' argument includes such pearls as "its 320kbps “high quality” setting will satisfy all but the most sensitive listener... " which reads like Spotify wrote it themselves.
― piscesx, Sunday, 7 October 2018 11:18 (five years ago) link
A con they missed is the shitty editorialising of Spotify-created playlists e.g. "great tunes old and new, for fans of real music" is the description of an 80 track playlist called Transistor dominated by 90s/00s white dudes with guitars while the 'Sweet Soul Sunday' playlist promoted next to it manages to say the first bit without the patronising pandering of the last bit.
― nashwan, Sunday, 7 October 2018 12:03 (five years ago) link
Anyone know how to get a "more like this" but only with new stuff? Would be great for trying to find new dance music releases...
― DJI, Monday, 15 October 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link
^^second this request
something that might help you is this "trick" I mentioned a bit upthread:
you can use google to search for playlists containing specific songs, for example:site:spotify.com inurl:playlist "pour aisha"
― niels, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 06:45 (five years ago) link
does discover weekly rely purely on user playlists? that would explain why listening to autechre's nts sessions for about 8 hours each week for a month has had zero effect on mine - searching for a track using that google trick finds a massive 8 playlists, 2 of which are generic new release playlists and the rest are just the nts sessions themselves.
― Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 08:48 (five years ago) link
Does anyone know why the queueing tracks vanish when you shut your iPhone down? Even just closing the app itself makes it disappear too i think. Any trick ways of getting the queue to 'stay' so that when you close Spotify it's still there later?
― piscesx, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 10:16 (five years ago) link
This has been happening with increasing regularity on my iPhone as well, over the past couple of months. It doesn’t happen every time you close the app (or when the app closes itself, which happens a lot too), but more often than not it does. Extremely annoying, and something that was never a problem before.
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 10:38 (five years ago) link
Yeah it's definitely a new thing innit? I thought it was just me!
― piscesx, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 11:00 (five years ago) link
Huh, I did not realize I had "Keep on listening to similar tracks when your music ends" until just now, when my La Monte Young playlist auto-segued itself to Cutting Crew.
― mick signals, Friday, 19 October 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
wait, there are La Monte Young records on Spotify?
― sleeve, Friday, 19 October 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link
heh, even when they change their Spotify handle there's no escape from the imposters:
https://open.spotify.com/track/5gJB7T4UtlnJ4YSuu3E34c?si=by0JiJekTmGbPWLJDgLZSg
― Jeff W, Friday, 19 October 2018 18:18 (five years ago) link
2 songs in this week's DW that I absolutely certainly have streamed on numerous occasions on this very account:Mulatu Astatke - Tezeta Ramsey Lewis - Rocky Raccoon
What might be the explanation?
― niels, Monday, 22 October 2018 06:37 (five years ago) link
Not able to access the web browser version at work this morning because Spotify is "making a few little improvements." No access, no explanations, and no estimated time to return. This a good reminder of why I don't rely solely on streaming services.
― doug watson, Monday, 22 October 2018 13:46 (five years ago) link
xp It's fairly common for me to see tracks in DW I have streamed before ... I have 4-5 today, I think
the web client is loading normally for me this morning
― Brad C., Monday, 22 October 2018 13:56 (five years ago) link
It's weird how certain songs keep coming back to my discover weekly. I think this is the fourth time I got Films by Gary Numan.
― silverfish, Monday, 22 October 2018 14:05 (five years ago) link
but... that's not supposed to happen?!
― niels, Monday, 22 October 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link
https://onegiantread.literatureworks.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2016/04/i-robot-feature-450x296.jpg
anyone finding the shuffle button is behaving strangely? if I've added new songs to a playlist I'm finding the shuffle concentrates almost wholly on those songs.
― Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 08:50 (five years ago) link
https://cdn.quotesgram.com/img/9/79/398467957-HALquotes_006-e1363869879703.jpg
― niels, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 09:08 (five years ago) link
xp
That's the opposite of what happens to me. Shuffle never wants to play the stuff that was added recently.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:36 (five years ago) link
Seems like Discover Weekly has had some sort of reset or algorithmic shift - getting lots of tracks I've played a lot already and more familiar artists than usual.
Also seems like the mini artwork avatar display has gone but I liked using this to go the track in playlist situ (tho this was never an obvious way of doing that) - is there no way of doing that now?
Buggy playlists view now too - width keeps adjusting as I scroll within that frame.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link
The "character" of DW noticeably changed for me this week, I agree. For the better, though! I got some tracks that were a little more mainstream than usual, but which in being reminded of I realized I did like more than I had previously realized. Kind of an "oh yeah, I forgot about that good track!" week. Foremost among these rediscoveries was NRBQ's Magnet, which I've loved but just forgotten about for years.
― Dan I., Wednesday, 24 October 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link
(n.b. I had never, to my knowledge played or liked any of the tracks that appeared--I'd just listened to them in the past pre-spotify)
― Dan I., Wednesday, 24 October 2018 17:31 (five years ago) link
Two Wings songs, though. :(
― Dan I., Wednesday, 24 October 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link
minor gripe: the date given for albums is the date they were added to spotify and there's no way of seeing the original release date.
― Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Thursday, 25 October 2018 09:21 (five years ago) link
p sure Revolver wasn't added to spotify in 1966?
― niels, Thursday, 25 October 2018 10:09 (five years ago) link
Imagine there's not much commercial impetus for accurate metadata around original release date. Some old albums do have it correctly on there, though – I've had fun with using dates in the search (still seems to work for the web player)
eg: https://open.spotify.com/search/results/year%3A1974%20genre%3Areggae
― Alba, Thursday, 25 October 2018 10:12 (five years ago) link
(xpost)
― Alba, Thursday, 25 October 2018 10:13 (five years ago) link
i concede this is correct for some, many, perhaps even most albums, i must have just hit a bad patch. please mentally insert a 'when' after the colon in my previous post.
― Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Thursday, 25 October 2018 10:30 (five years ago) link
Nah, I think most of the time it's the reissue date - you're not just in a bad patch.
― Alba, Thursday, 25 October 2018 10:45 (five years ago) link
The dates come from the licensors, and it's true that they are sometimes not correct in a real-world sense, particularly on reissues. We (Spotify) can override and fix individual ones, but there are far too many to do this at any kind of scale...
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 25 October 2018 11:57 (five years ago) link
Fairly simple, just run a script periodically with an artist + album query against the discogs db (you can download the db offline for added speed), that’s how I cleaned up my iTunes library. I’m willing to bet that this takes an intern about two days.
― Siegbran, Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:41 (five years ago) link