taking sides: outkast or goodie mob?

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ok, i have _aquemini_ now. haven't heard the other three yet. and it's decent. but it's still got nothing on _still standing_ for me. outkast's production may be fuller but goodie mob seem much stronger in terms of how they use their voices. their intricate rhythms flow just perfectly for the songs and they seem subtler in the interplay of the tones of their voices. i even sometimes feel like outkast are spitting the lines out quick to be flashy. the more minimal production works to gm's advantage: a hook to set a mood and a beat they can play against is all needed for their songs. the production of _aquemini_ still hasn't totally clicked in the same way for me. while _aquemini_ *may* (and that's a may) be stronger than _world party_ i still don't understand why outkast is getting all the press.

― sundar subramanian, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Outkast all the way. They're getting all the press simply because they are better, wilder, more beautiful, spaced out, imaginative than any other rap-act in some years. Anyway the last album is light-years ahead of Aquemini, I think.

― Omar, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

It is. As Reynolds notes, much of Aquemini is boringly "live"- sounding by comparison.

However I've hardly heard the Goodie Mob so really can't comment.

― Robin Carmody, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Obviously OutKast are going to win because no one's heard any Goodie Mob. I'm the same but I will say that I'll be listening to some Goodie Mob soon because I like what I've heard so far. Personally I think I'll prefer "Aquemini" (and, for that matter, "ATLiens") to "Stankonia" in the long-run. I've already stopped listening to "Stankonia" as much as the other two.

― Greg, Saturday, 21 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Stankonia makes me tireder. Would it have really been that hard to put out a shorter album? (Aquemini's pretty long too but I'm more used to it, and more importantly, I think it's paced and sequenced a little better.)

― Josh, Sunday, 22 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Agree that Stankonia coulda been shorter - filler abounds - but I haven't heard enough of GM to compare.

Have listened to Snoop's new album more times in one week than I have listened to Stankonia eva

Back to buying albums - much self-loathing inna NE1

― Geordie Racer, Sunday, 22 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one more point in gm's favour: almost no stupid skits to slow the album down. of the two albums i have, _still standing_ is definitely one to check out.

― sundar subramanian, Sunday, 22 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm not even saying that Stankonia is filled up with filler. Many of the tracks I don't like as much seem like good tracks; it's just that I need a break because I can't listen to them all at once.

― Josh, Sunday, 22 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Dirty south top 5:

1. Outkast: ATLiens

2. Outkast: Aquemini

3. Goodie Mob: World Party

4. Outkast: Stankonia

5. Goodie Mob: Soul Food

I spent last year and the year before listening to those five and Southernplayalisticadillacmusic as much as anything. All of them except Stankonia still get played fairly regularly (what Stankonia gained in innovation, it sacrificed in durability). Still Standing sounds to me like it shouldn't have even been released. The choruses are even worse than those on Stankonia, and the whole album sounds like a demo to me. Even "Black Ice" and "Fly Away" would stand out as awful amongst Soul Food's first six songs.

― Otis Wheeler, Sunday, 22 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I can see the case for "Still Standing" over "Aquemini", but "Stankonia" blows Goodie Mob and just about every other current rap act out of the water. The production is brilliant - I remember how impressed I was with "Aquemini" when I bought it, but "Stankonia" makes that album sound tired and muddled. "Stankonia" *is* long as hell and, yeah, the sequencing doesn't do what it could to make it easier, but I find that listening to just half of it at once like a double LP is a lot more manageable.

― Greg Ferguson, Monday, 23 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I agree with Otis, "Still Standing" sounds half finished and terrible and is nowhere near as good as any given Outkast album. GM's "Chain Swang" is probably my favorite song by either group, and Cee Lo might be the most charismatic rapper alive (I moshed with him at a Goodie Mob show years back while their band was riffing on "Iron Man"). I think Outkast makes better albums, and Goodie Mob made at least one better single, but isn't all that consistent. "Atliens" is the best album by either group, with either "Southernplaya..." or "Soul Food" second. I actually haven't heard much of "World Party" except for "Get Rich to This" and "Chain Swang".

― Kris, Monday, 23 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

real life dirty south top 5 1. outkast, stankonia
the maturity of atliens, the production of aquemini and the vibe of the debut taken to the next level. overlong, but what isn't in these days of the album. 2. goodie mobb, still standing
half-finished? i'll agree on the two tracks you selected, otie, as they were the worst on the album. displayed a grab-bag of influences and outkast were certainly paying attention. give me "they don't dance no' mo'," "beautiful skin," and "still standing" and i'll face down whatever three outkast album tracks you throw at me. 3. outkast, southernplayalisticadillacmuzik
title track is the funkiest thing they've done, bar none, who cares if it's a p-funk rip: they made better use of it anyway. there's a churlishness at work here that i admit to missing on more recent records. a striking debut and they couldn't be anymore different today. 4. goodie mobb, soul food
barebones production style, the music often reminded me of an old western. one of the most spiritual rap albums ever made while still managing to be a shitload of fun. "cell therapy," a great single and an even better video. more than outkast's debut, i think this album trumpeted the arrival of the dirty south. 5. outkast, aquemini
waaaaaay overlong. a blueprint for stankonia with much to recommend it, not the least of which is "rosa parks," one of the best singles of the decade. what started as a tight album really comes undone when the guest artists start popping in and dre & big boi lose the plot. the rest: world party gets off to a FABULOUS start -- "chain swang" is one of their most underrated singles -- and then the wheels fall off and the rapping gets real dumb. atliens was important at the time but now it strikes me as really fucking dull and i haven't listened to it in years. currently, i'll take outkast; before stankonia, i'd have taken the mobb, but i'm fearing that they peaked too early.

― fred solinger, Monday, 23 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

had to reformat this cos it was a fucking mess.

real life dirty south top 5

1. outkast, stankonia
the maturity of atliens, the production of aquemini and the vibe of the debut taken to the next level. overlong, but what isn't in these days of the album.

2. goodie mobb, still standing
half-finished? i'll agree on the two tracks you selected, otie, as they were the worst on the album. displayed a grab-bag of influences and outkast were certainly paying attention. give me "they don't dance no' mo'," "beautiful skin," and "still standing" and i'll face down whatever three outkast album tracks you throw at me.

3. outkast, southernplayalisticadillacmuzik
title track is the funkiest thing they've done, bar none, who cares if it's a p-funk rip: they made better use of it anyway. there's a churlishness at work here that i admit to missing on more recent records. a striking debut and they couldn't be anymore different today.

4. goodie mobb, soul food
barebones production style, the music often reminded me of an old western. one of the most spiritual rap albums ever made while still managing to be a shitload of fun. "cell therapy," a great single and an even better video. more than outkast's debut, i think this album trumpeted the arrival of the dirty south.

5. outkast, aquemini
waaaaaay overlong. a blueprint for stankonia with much to recommend it, not the least of which is "rosa parks," one of the best singles of the decade. what started as a tight album really comes undone when the guest artists start popping in and dre & big boi lose the plot.

the rest: world party gets off to a FABULOUS start -- "chain swang" is one of their most underrated singles -- and then the wheels fall off and the rapping gets real dumb. atliens was important at the time but now it strikes me as really fucking dull and i haven't listened to it in years. currently, i'll take outkast; before stankonia, i'd have taken the mobb, but i'm fearing that they peaked too early.

― fred solinger, Monday, 23 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one month passes...

id go with goodie mob, i think they have better beats and more captivating rhymes. they have some songs like straight up sit you down and make you think (guess who, soul food) and songs that make you all out jam (just about over, still standing). thats my 2 cents

kevin

― kevin conaway, Monday, 18 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

four months pass...

Those of you who have negatively critized all these albums have not taken the time to listen to the lyrics. Yes, Stankonia does seem long but all the interludes actully introduce the album. I personally love Still Standing and also have a tattoo of the those words with a cross instead of the tree with the roots. Still Standing is better than Aquemini, but can't be compared to ATLiens or Stankonia because of the futuristic rhymes and flows that travel on those albums. Sit & listen to the albums & if the lyrics are too fast read the album cover for a better understanding.

― southernplaya, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I prefer Backbone's Concrete Law to either Stankonia or World Party; it of course has a lot of the same rappers, since they all guest all over each other's work, but it's prettier, more New Orleansy.

― Frank Kogan, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Now that I have Soul Food as well, I am sad to report that Still Standing is the only GM I find so totally satisfying.

― sundar subramanian, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

three months pass...

Top 5 ablums from rappers from ATL 1.Goodie Mobb-World Party 2.Outkast-ATLiens 3.Outkast-aquemini 4.Ludacris-Back for the first time 5.Dungeon Family-Even in Darkness

all these artists are great in there own way but if i got to choose sides i would go with Outkast b/c they put this shit on the map opening it all up for Goodie Mobb, Slim Calhoun, Backone, Ludacris etc.

― Terrence handy, Saturday, 2 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

ten months pass...

All of this is legit music criticism in one way or another, but shit, I dunno, not many a' yall seem like you really get OutKast or Goodie Mobb or what they're about. Maybe (and its a fuckin strong maybe) their music is so tied to the South'un way of life and a certain brand of free-thinking that to those who dont get these things, they seem like run-of-the-mill hip hop albums that you can say are too long or get dull (ATLiens dull? aww haaaaaail naw! wheels of steel? elevators? two dope boys? decatur psalm? since when did an album make you enter the artist's heads and eyes like fuckin ATLiens?). i mean, OutKasts skits r fuckin brilliant. they take u directly to the culture but not in a stupid tell-a-everyday-story sorta way, they analyze and bust on all the characters and situations like the street scholars they r. and Goodie Mobb just straight up sees the world how it is, only not in a easy ghetto way, they see the long-view, power vs. the people, "cell therapy" was a political document and a great song at the same time. the beats are the funkiest and most musically interesting in hip-hop by far, and kick the shit out of their closest contenders, the now played-out New York jazz beats of semi/underground. and the flows? big boi, gipp and cee lo are poets of the top level in hip hop history, theyre not fast to be flashy, theyre fast cuz they have mastered rhyme and meter and are takin MCing to a whole notha level (which it needs to go to, since shitty MCs and talk-over-a-beaters have taken over the music). basically, atlanta hip hop from this crew (DF in general) is too complicated and artistically genius for most same-old-New York-shit hip hop fans, who havent gotten past unoriginal bragging and telling tired old vague slangin' stories wiht no specifics, givin the impression they hadn't sold a sack in their life. its like 2pac taken to the next level without gettin as hung up on the thug life bullshit and stickin to the thug life reality. and aint no shit betta nowhere dan in da muthafuckin Dirty South

― BillyClint, Wednesday, 4 December 2002 22:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

I was wrong. I like all 3 GM albums but Still Standing is still my favourite.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 23:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'd say Still Standing towers above the other two, which are good but pretty uneven.

― J0hn Darn13ll3 (J0hn Darn13ll3), Thursday, 5 December 2002 00:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

You know, I almost don't even bother to draw any distinctions between the various Dungeon Family projects - there's so much overlap both in who is actually on the records and in the culture/viewpoints their promoting that I like to think of them as one big, organic, endlessly evolving clan (like P-Funk back in the day). I guess I could rate certain albums above others ("Aquemini" is better than "Still Standing" for example, I'm surprised at all the love "Still Standing" is getting in this thread) but as performers I love almost all the major players equally, albeit for different reasons. I felt the same way about Wu-Tang for a long time, before the flood of bad solo albums started to dilute their reputation.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 5 December 2002 00:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

Has anybody pointed out that Outkast and Goodie Mob's beats are done by the exact same people?

Personally, I think Goodie Mob and Outkast are two of the freshest hip-hop acts around right now. I've been especially into Cee-Lo's album lately, but all three Goodie Mob albums and all four(?) Outkast albums are ALL classics in my humble opinion.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 5 December 2002 14:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Even In Darkness = DAMN DAMN DAMN!

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 6 December 2002 01:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Even In Darkness = DAMN DAMN DAMN!"

Yeah, it's amazingly good, isn't it! I wasn't expecting anything massive from it given the ostensible side-project/large-scale collaboration aspect of it, but it's easily as strong as the best stuff in the Outkast/Goodie Mob/Organized Noize catalog. "Crooked Booty" is jaw-dropping - and the Tomita loop in "White Gutz"! Fucking great. Of the DF's releases over the last year, I like Cee-Lo's solo album but this is a few steps ahead of it, I think.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 6 December 2002 01:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

I prefer Outkast, but only by a little bit. I didn't think World Party was very good, actually. the Cee-Lo album is great.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 6 December 2002 02:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

So, is the Backbone album all as good as "Five Duece Four Tre"?

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Friday, 6 December 2002 02:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

four weeks pass...

OutKast, simply because they''ve stayed more committed to the music, but don't count the Mob out; They are definatly one of the most underrated groups in Hip Hop. Soul Food was damn incredible and Still Standing even more so, perhaps. Both Kast and Goodie have really balanced their artistic sides with the need to bring in a basic audience, but I think Goodie, simply becuase they have a much more raw, soulfood sound, has struggled to get the attention that Kast recieves. Whats happened to Goodie Mob lately? I think they are trying to break into the popular charts, perhaps. World Party, while it was an alright album came as a complete suprise; definatly not the type of soulful crunk style the fan base expected. And for better or worse, Khujo's new album is definatly a step from the old skool goodie sound. Given Goodies frustration to stay together as a group and the constantly changing styles of Outkast, I think, in general, now would be a good time for Second Genoration Dungeon Family to really put themselves out in the oublic eye without sacrificing their raw style.

― Cheshire-Bridge-Drew, Atlanta, GA, Friday, 3 January 2003 19:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...

Hey I don't even know if anybody is still reading these things but have you all ever heard the song on the soul food soundtrack by outkast and cee-loo? it is called (In due time)........brilliant!!!!

― destiny, Wednesday, 4 August 2004 23:28 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

http://www.statemagazine.nl/documents/50/07/50070224da85cc45d85b91914105f256.cd.png >>>>>>>>> outkast

― am0n, Saturday, 8 December 2007 08:05 (sixteen years ago) link

False. Great album, though. I was just listening to ATLiens this morning, and on a good day, it's my favorite rap album ever.

― The Reverend, Saturday, 8 December 2007 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Even In Darkness = DAMN DAMN DAMN!

-- Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Thursday, December 5, 2002 8:11 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Link

coyotm

― and what, Saturday, 8 December 2007 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

goodie kinda went a bit crap after the second album, although chain swang was great. not heard anything they did after cee lo left.

― mr x, Saturday, 8 December 2007 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link

False. Great album, though. I was just listening to ATLiens this morning, and on a good day, it's my favorite rap album ever.

-- The Reverend, Saturday, December 8, 2007 2:06 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

yes.

― will, Saturday, 8 December 2007 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Isn't there supposed to be a new Goodie Mob album in the works?

― nickalicious, Saturday, 8 December 2007 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link

not heard anything they did after cee lo left.

-- mr x, Saturday, December 8, 2007 1:00 PM (Saturday, December 8, 2007 1:00 PM) Bookmark Link

Haven't heard the later albums, but the "Play Your Flutes" single w/ Korrupt is A++.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnNE9KhOm-o

― The Reverend, Sunday, 9 December 2007 06:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Big Gipp's solo album is fun. The "Steppin' Out" single with the "Billie Jean" guitar and "got myself some cologne that I'm 'a skeet skeet skeet skeet skeet skeet on" is great, too. The video (not on youtube, unfort.) has the greatest outlandish DF outfit ever, a blue jumpsuit with giant yellow fuzzy things all over it. Has anyone heard his album with Ali?

― The Reverend, Sunday, 9 December 2007 06:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Anybody else rate Joi? Or does she not count as Dungeon, maybe?

― Oilyrags, Sunday, 9 December 2007 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Amoeba Cleansing Syndrome=the fucking SHIT, regardless.

― Oilyrags, Sunday, 9 December 2007 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I looooooooove me some classic Outkast. Aquemini to me was their crowning achievement, but I also love Southernplayalistic, ATLiens, and yes even Stankonia.

Was not a fan of Speakerboxx/The Love Below (didn't think Andre 3000 pulled his album off at all, wasn't horrible but wasn't great, and Speakerboxx is just flat other than "Church" and a few other songs).

But I really did like the album they put out last year--Idlewild was a nice mix of the things they were doing on Speakerboxx/Love Below but not too excessive.

so...believe it or not though I've not heard much Goodie Mob outside of their OUtkast guests (which I liked). someone recc me some.

― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 9 December 2007 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Black Ice (contains OutKast guests) is my favorite GM song.

― Oilyrags, Sunday, 9 December 2007 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link

occassionally listed as "Sky High"

― Oilyrags, Sunday, 9 December 2007 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Now this isn't a dis at all on the Goodie Mob, but just something funny.

I keep thinking about what Steve Harvey said in Original Kings of Comedy about everybody on the stage having a mic ("40 MOTHERFUCKING PEOPLE!") and how nobody can understand what anybody is saying ("SIGAMUMAWAMAMAKIA! SIGAMUAMA YEA YEA YEA BOY!").

i saw Goodie Mob on Apollo once (hosted by ....Steve Harvey!) and they all had mics and it was just one of the funniest things I ever saw cuz none of it was intelligible. I think whoever was doing the sound was high that night.

― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 9 December 2007 16:09 (sixteen years ago) link

ONE TO THE TWO THE THREE THE FOUR
THEM DIRTY RED DOGS DONE HIT THE DOOR
AND THEY GOT EVERYBODY ON THEIR HANDS AND KNEES
AND THEY AIN'T GONNA LEAVE UNTIL THEY FIND THEM KIS
SEE POWDER MAKES YOU HYPER
REEFER MAKES YOU CALM
CIGARETTES GIVES YOU CANCER
WOOOWOOS MAKE YOU DUMB
WHATCHU NIGGAS KNOW ABOUT THE DIRTY SOUTH?
WHATCHU NIGGAS KNOW ABOUT THE DIRTY SOUTH?

― The Reverend, Monday, 10 December 2007 02:19 (sixteen years ago) link

believe it or not though I've not heard much Goodie Mob

-- Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 9 December 2007 16:01 (Yesterday) Link

well im shocked

― deej, Monday, 10 December 2007 06:58 (sixteen years ago) link

-- The Reverend, Sunday, December 9, 2007 12:39 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

this is on point, i got that 'steppin out' 12" for like 99 cents at some store awhile back and it stays on repeat.

― deej, Monday, 10 December 2007 06:59 (sixteen years ago) link

i remember the video too from when it first dropped, can't believe its not on youtube!

― deej, Monday, 10 December 2007 07:00 (sixteen years ago) link

didn't involve a house party or something?

― J0rdan S., Monday, 10 December 2007 07:03 (sixteen years ago) link

One Monkey Don't Stop No Show is a lot better than you might think. The beats are really nice - dark, menacing. Actually, the Lumberjacks album is good too.

― paulhw, Monday, 10 December 2007 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link

well im shocked

shut the fuck up

― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 03:28 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

soul food > your favorite album

― and what, Monday, 21 January 2008 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link

blawwgh - nobody now!

― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 21 January 2008 17:10 (sixteen years ago) link

as he lay in his final resting place
he had a peaceful expression on his face

― and what, Monday, 21 January 2008 17:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Black Ice is a terrific tune, particularly Andre's verse.

― chap, Monday, 21 January 2008 17:15 (sixteen years ago) link

I looooooooove me some classic Outkast. Aquemini to me was their crowning achievement, but I also love Southernplayalistic, ATLiens, and yes even Stankonia.

i mean i know it's bo jackson but wtf, dude is acting like he's riding for blueprint 2.1 or something

― J0rdan S., Monday, 21 January 2008 17:23 (sixteen years ago) link

i dunno man stankonia is pretty bad

― and what, Monday, 21 January 2008 17:23 (sixteen years ago) link

we love deez hoez is classic but the rest is weak

― and what, Monday, 21 January 2008 17:25 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^yeah pretty spotty imo

― will, Monday, 21 January 2008 17:25 (sixteen years ago) link

world party >>> aquemini

― and what, Monday, 21 January 2008 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

You're crazy, Stankonia's great.

― chap, Monday, 21 January 2008 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

otoh ATLiens is like Rush's "Working Man". They can do whatever horseshit they want from here on out and they still get lifetime classic pass.

― will, Monday, 21 January 2008 17:27 (sixteen years ago) link

i mean obv it's long as fuck and you could probably chop half off but besides the classic singles i count 5-6 pretty solid album tracks

― J0rdan S., Monday, 21 January 2008 17:27 (sixteen years ago) link

no coincidence that two of the three good songs on stankonia are organized noize

― and what, Monday, 21 January 2008 17:27 (sixteen years ago) link

snappin & trappin is good

― and what, Monday, 21 January 2008 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link

and anyway what i really meant was that his language was weird bcuz he was acting as if he was standing up for some universally maligned album

― J0rdan S., Monday, 21 January 2008 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link

naw i feel u southernplayalistic gets ignored most of the time & its the dopest one

― and what, Monday, 21 January 2008 17:31 (sixteen years ago) link

stankonia is only good for when its the only rap cd in a heavy metal jukebox & you wanna hear we love deez hoez

― and what, Monday, 21 January 2008 17:31 (sixteen years ago) link

i hope that big boi album comes out this year

― J0rdan S., Monday, 21 January 2008 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link

hahahaha (we luv deez hoez)

― The Reverend, Monday, 21 January 2008 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Big Boi suggesting he may consider running for the job of Mayor of Atlanta in the future.

!
(From Wikipedia, admittedly)

― chap, Monday, 21 January 2008 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

big boi vs clark howard would be o_O

― and what, Monday, 21 January 2008 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't think big boi spit a bad verse in 07

― J0rdan S., Monday, 21 January 2008 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link

also his ballet

― J0rdan S., Monday, 21 January 2008 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I kinda with he was actually performing the ballet himself. It really wouldn't be a stretch for Andre but Big Boi would be a sight.

― matt2, Monday, 21 January 2008 18:38 (sixteen years ago) link

That's "I kinda wiSh..."

― matt2, Monday, 21 January 2008 18:39 (sixteen years ago) link

i wonder if he'll ever do a collabo w.kate bush

― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 21 January 2008 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Andre's always banging on about wanting to collaborate with Squarepusher.

― chap, Monday, 21 January 2008 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link

world party >>> aquemini

-- and what, Monday, January 21, 2008 11:26 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

aquemini has a raekwon verse, tho

― deej, Monday, 21 January 2008 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link

i mean i know it's bo jackson but wtf, dude is acting like he's riding for blueprint 2.1 or something

I dunno dude, in some corners it's not a well liked albums, in others it's loved. Thought I'd cover my bases.

I really like it a lot for the record, though I've never really been into "So fresh so clean"

my fav is Gasoline Dreams

― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 01:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Boy, every time I get to a thread it's so long I could never possibly read it all and still get to work on time.

Anyhoo, I'll vote Goodie Mob based on the fact that I've just never liked Outkast. Argue what you want, I just never felt it. My loss, probably.

― RabiesAngentleman, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 02:06 (sixteen years ago) link

i like stankonia, incl 'so fresh so clean'
suffers from overplayedness but still good

― deej, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 02:12 (sixteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

woke up this morning from a dream where i was doing some very important mystical rite involving climbing a tree and Goodie Mob were there and "Black Ice" was playing. Of course "Black Ice" had different lyrics and maybe a different beat in my dream but it was "Black Ice."

― clotpoll, Friday, 7 November 2008 22:39 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

213
Jul
20
2004

5.00 stars

+1
[Rating940231] THIS IS GOODIE MOB BEST ALBUM OF ALL MUTHERFUCKING TIME.AND THESE NIGGAS GOT OUTKAST ON THIS BICTH.JUST CLASIC

― clotpoll, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link

thirteen years pass...

why take sides? nothin but the goat when they would team up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WG88h2-AJE

goodie mob + outkast - "black ice" (1998)

quintessential organized noize collab on the beat. was this on the recent pfork list?xpost very much "music where all performers reach their full potentials" best goodie mob track?

― ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Thursday, 1 December 2022 03:24 (one year ago) link

otm

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 December 2022 03:33 (one year ago) link

oh yeah, here's the (better) full version with everyone and a different big gipp verse-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVVJvMKiWWU

this is a top 5 dre verse, easily.

― ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Thursday, 1 December 2022 03:37 (one year ago) link

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