Has salvia made a dent in music yet?

Cliché is for certain music to have been directly influenced by certain drugs:

ecstasy -> house music
heroin -> modal jazz
coke -> disco

and so on, to the point where more or less every drug seems to have a well-defined aural shorthand. Now, going by evidence of mates/YouTube, salvia seems to have gone pretty mainstream at this stage. If so, where are the salvia influenced acts? What current bands are trying to musically approximate the sensation of the dimensions of the universe gradually folding in on each other until you're left as a moving line in 13th century Peru?

a. model airplane glue
b. freon
c. gasoline
d. amyl nitrate
e. ____________ legal drug that's shit

yea mate, any salvia style of music, which would probably be some downtempo wacked out minimal tech with scythe sawing synths, would sound as heavy and unenjoyable as the drug itself is. all those drugs are social drugs as well, eh, it's not so much about the drug itself but the scene involved with it. the salvia scene is in your dirty bedroom that smells like body odor and moldy sandwiches.

and by all those drugs i was referring to coke, heroin, e, i.e., the one's you aforementioned

2009 - the year Airfix-core finally goes mainstream

wouldn't salvia keep you from doing the 8 hours of MySpacing a day it takes for anyone to hear your music?

Hold on, I thought salvia was used as a herb, not as a drug?!

This would explain a hell of a lot.

you guys are forgetting that all the real psychedelic warriors are doing this stuff too, it's like a streetlegal lesser brother of dmt to anyone who's really into traveling spaceways. remember terrence mckenna really repped the stuff, and folks who are interested in his ideas are interested in his drugs too. i have lots of friends (some who sells records, some who sit in their closets all day strung out) who have made some very deliberately salvia-influenced music. email if you really want to know.

a few notes:
- Salvia CAN BE a social drug, in a weird way.. at least i have had some righteous group smoking experiences with other friends who are interested in exploring its effects on the mind. sometimes, in fact, the group breaks into song. there is an association among friends so inclined between salviasong and "mouth sounds". frequently, upon concluding a very odd psych jam, one of the brothers will punctuate it with "that was some salvia sounding shit, man"! the archetypal salviasong, among fucked up midwestern dronerockers, at least, sounds something like the rounders doing "mobile line" with a more ejaculatory structure and that oh-shit-i'm-gonna-drop-this-bowl-if-i-don't-holdontotheuniverssss feeling of psychic delicacy.
- A lot of folks i know have written SONGS ABOUT salvia, rather than making actual salviasongs. this makes sense. it appeals to those people who are really exploring the nature of ideas, and songwriting is a very likely way for those people to manifest that impulse lately, cos everyone's got a myspace and no one's got a fulltime job.
- if you think huffing glue hasn't inspired any great music, then i don't wanna listen to music with you. and if your salvia experiences are scary then it's probably because you've got the fear. try mixing with chronic and work on cultivating your smoking environs before partaking
- ecuador, i like your description of salviasongs in your initial post. it is interesting to me how the drug has very distinct imaginal archetypes that occur to all users, like folding paper indians, ideas which have a distinct musicality. let the salvia play itself.

Why hasn't Robo-tripping made a dent in music yet? And where are the Whippit-influenced songs?

for some reason I associate robo-tripping with the late 90s and aphex twin

Is it possible that you were robo-tripping in the late 90s while listening to Aphex Twin?

I got my undergrad degree in psychology, you can trust me!

Cliché is for certain music to have been directly influenced by certain drugs:

ecstasy -> house music
heroin -> modal jazz
coke -> disco

and they're just cliches.

bonnie prince billy talked about it a few years ago, apparently he was big into it.

he said some hilarious thing, like it made you feel like you were talking to a statue of yourself or something

- Salvia CAN BE a social drug, in a weird way.. at least i have had some righteous group smoking experiences with other friends who are interested in exploring its effects on the mind. sometimes, in fact, the group breaks into song. there is an association among friends so inclined between salviasong and "mouth sounds". frequently, upon concluding a very odd psych jam, one of the brothers will punctuate it with "that was some salvia sounding shit, man"!

Wow, you've just described my very own personal Hell.

the easy answer to this is that there is not and never will be a 'scene' around Salvia. nobody in their right mind, or with access to better drugs (all of them), does Salvia more than once or twice.

Aren't the effects of salvia too brief for this? Most of the areas where we think of drugs being reflected in music involve drugs you're on for long enough to listen to something -- I thought a salvia trip lasted about as long as a viral video.

(Not that you can't have music that relates to a short-term drug, or wants to capture its mood, or whatever, but that usually requires the intermediate step of some sort of "culture" emerging around the drug, and the really big drug/music interactions still tend to come from experiencing both at the same time.)

it inspired the likes of this art work.
http://spectraleyes.com/albums/artworx/Namaste.gif

Suddenly I support an expanded war on drugs

Just as soon as you've finished your beer?

alcohol is a vitamin not a drug

I thought it was a type of medicine (and therefore a drug of sorts)?

Ringo: "...it's probably because we're drunk"
Moon: "We're had too much medicine!"
Ringo: "We're getting old, we need our medicine..."

anyone who thinks salvia could be a good "social" drug prolly isn't smoking it right.

unless by social you mean introducing it to your buddy who doesn't know what it is yet as a sweet legal psychedelic, lighting it for him with a butane lighter, then watching him zonk out for a couple minutes and come back to try to remember who he is and why he just woke up with a bowl in his lap and a burn mark on his crotch.

salvia probably isn't gonna make much of a "dent" because, while it can be interesting, the feelings it evokes aren't pleasant and the drug itself just isn't good enough to come to define any "scene".

i could definitely see a musician being inspired by it, just like they might be inspired by any experience, dramatic or otherwise, but its not like acid or coke or heroin or weed where someone might use it a lot and see it as a defining part of their take on things.

that said, it is a really fucking bizarre experience, the space/time folding in on itself thing is pretty accurate. when i did it i felt like i left my body (and the room and my friends) and i saw it all from a cold distant point of view, none of it was mine, it was like my whole life and all my friends were just folded up into one of many ripples in the fabric of space/time and i had no place in any specific one. it was a pretty terrible feeling and after someone told me i just did salvia and i "woke up" it took about fifteen minutes to get my sense of place back and to feel connected to my friends and my environment again. overall not a pleasant feeling, i wouldn't do it again, but i don't regret it at all (i'd done it a couple times before but didn't light the bowl hot enough so it wasn't nearly as powerful.) i don't recommend anybody who is worried about their mental health to do it.