DOES ANYONE IN THIS BITCH LIKE ICP

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NO NO NO NO NO not the juggalos or whatever but the Instant Composers Orchestra led (though there may have been some dispute over that, not sure) by Misha Mengelberg.

Josh, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

AKA the ICP Orchestra (name later to be taken by career-nadir faygo-snorting clowns when they record an album with the CSO)

on 'jubilee varia' the cellist heckles his own band!

on mengelberg's 'two days in chicago' ab baars plays the most beautiful ugly solo (or the ugliest beautiful solo, I'm not sure) I've ever heard on 'body and soul'

Josh, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

if you're talking about the Insane Clown Posse, I reckon they're a really dreadful act who look like stupid wankers, and have no merit what so ever, but that's just my opinion.

Andrew, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

He's not.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

reading is fundamental.

you fucking wankers.

jess, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

josh what do you mean by beautiful ugly? skronk-y? wrong notes? what???

jess, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

i interviewed misha mengelberg once

mark s, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mark-yeah, your article on him is cited in the Misha entry in the european improv page.

One item in his discog that interested me was his 'Two nights in chicago' db CD on Hoatology. Anyone heard it?

Julio Desouza, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

''on mengelberg's 'two days in chicago' ab baars plays the most beautiful ugly solo (or the ugliest beautiful solo, I'm not sure) I've ever heard on 'body and soul'''

Is that a recommendation?

Julio Desouza, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like how they can play "inside" with great poise and polish, and then go "outside" and do something completely unexpected. A very high caliber of musicianship and a unique sense of wit. Search: Bospaadje Konijnehol 1, a set of Ellington tunes plus a suite composed by Mengelberg.

o. nate, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

yes yes yes it is, julio. I would love a copy myself. :(

jess, it's kinda... supposing there were a line between 'in' solos and 'out' solos, baars just keeps wavering back and forth over that line. it's hard to explain. see if you can find the track online!

Josh, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

if I remember correctly at least half of 'two days' is mengelberg solo, which is also great and fascinating (I think the notes say something about 'monk meets satie' which makes some sense); anything with a larger group is definitely worth getting beause of their amazing sensitivity at improvising. it lets them navigate the in/out split beautifully.

Josh, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've always wanted to hear them (or any big band with Han Bennink on drums!).

On a related note, did anyone hear that new Mengelberg quartet album with Han and Dave Douglas?

Jordan, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

jodran, they played in st paul! I did not get to go

Josh, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oops. oh well. the other things sounds like the fan club orchestra, who play gameboys live.

Andrew, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
Wow, this thread title combined with the actual subject reads like a recipe for disaster, yet it never left the kitchen.

Bobby D Gray (bedhead), Thursday, 19 June 2003 01:05 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
A week from Monday, motherfuckers!

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 27 March 2006 00:37 (eighteen years ago) link

four years pass...

creationists???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs

kulinary gangsta (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Water, fire, air and dirt
Fucking magnets, how do they work?
And I don’t wanna talk to a scientist
Y’all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed
Solar eclipse, and vicious weather
Fifteen thousand Juggalos together

da croupier, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link

uh

gnarly sceptre, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

FUCKING RAINBOWS AFTER IT RAINS

da croupier, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

I fed a fish to a pelican at Frisco bay
It tried to eat my cell phone, he ran away

da croupier, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

throw a dart at the lyric sheet & hit a gem imo

Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah this song is a contemporary classic tbh
and yeah the ICP are creationists; they're way into jesus! thought everyone knew that.

ian, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

does anyone know why they got so optimistic and zen-like? what's going on in Shaggy and J's personal life that has made them so happy? besides the fact that they are now making millions

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link

wtf haha

archer's goon (tpp), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link

fuckin bit about the pelican is a;lskdjg;laskdjg

goole, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link

NO NO NO NO NO not the juggalos or whatever but the Instant Composers Orchestra led (though there may have been some dispute over that, not sure) by Misha Mengelberg.

― Josh, Tuesday, June 11, 2002 7:00 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark

ahaha didn't even notice this

goole, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link

0:45-0:49 in "Miracles" = gif it and loop it

still driving steen, banning deez, gettin my dick xhuxked (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 8 April 2010 05:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Hahaha I just came here to post that Miracles video.

I fed a fish to a pelican at Frisco bay
It tried to eat my cell phone, he ran away

― da croupier, Wednesday, April 7, 2010 2:09 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ M I R A C L E S ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ M I R A C L E S ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫

brutal pain comb (╓abies), Thursday, 8 April 2010 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link

SatanicJuggalo17 @DingoLust lol you must be fuckin stupid, and yeah bro, im 12, im smokin right now with a bunch of 12 year olds laughin at a bunch of faggots on youtube. has no idea what what is? haha get the fuck out and explain your shit before you talk

itchy rainbolt (clotpoll), Friday, 9 April 2010 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h308/deedtrees/neogaf/icp.gif

☀ ☃ (am0n), Friday, 9 April 2010 05:06 (fourteen years ago) link

its so amazing these two are thrillionaires

hoos hoos hudio (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 9 April 2010 05:20 (fourteen years ago) link

it kinda makes you believe in america

fuckin' rainbows! (latebloomer), Friday, 9 April 2010 07:36 (fourteen years ago) link

miracles, even

GREAT JOB Mushroom head (gbx), Friday, 9 April 2010 09:55 (fourteen years ago) link

One of the kids I am working with is a juggalo. I should get his expert opinion on this video and fuckin magnets and how they work y/y?

Aqua Backrat (ENBB), Friday, 9 April 2010 10:35 (fourteen years ago) link

magnets how do they work, no magnet experts need answer, fuckin liars; magic is how they work btw

~cankles~ (ice cr?m), Friday, 9 April 2010 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link

does anyone know why they got so optimistic and zen-like? what's going on in Shaggy and J's personal life that has made them so happy? besides the fact that they are now making millions

This was the overarching storyline behind the act the whole time. They started out as regular gangbangers who were pulled turned into supernatural thug clowns by the Dark Carnival to warn humanity to give up their evil ways and embrace Jesus. No I am not kidding; it's pretty explicit when you follow what they've put out from beginning onwarads and even at their most depraved, they've always been on some "you're getting fucked up because you've done wrong" shit.

Wood shavings! Laughing out loud! (HI DERE), Friday, 9 April 2010 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah wasn't their whole reveal awhile back that there's a "shangri-la" where dead juggalos go or some shit lol

☀ ☃ (am0n), Friday, 9 April 2010 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link

a "jugga-la", if u will

susan lucci mane (m bison), Friday, 9 April 2010 14:59 (fourteen years ago) link

i remember u (hi dere) explaining it one of the old threads, acting as ilx's sole defender of the indefensible ;)

☀ ☃ (am0n), Friday, 9 April 2010 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link

every messageboard needs one juggalo is my feeling

~cankles~ (ice cr?m), Friday, 9 April 2010 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link

or maybe it was this guy
Insane Clown Posse Fans. No, they really do exist, BITCH. My question is.....WHY, JUGGALOS!?

☀ ☃ (am0n), Friday, 9 April 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link

The hilarious thing is that they were talking about Shangri-La like back in 1995 when Riddle Box came out but people were still shocked and amazed when they went "oh btw we're massive Christians, you just got SAVED lol"

Wood shavings! Laughing out loud! (HI DERE), Friday, 9 April 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link

WHAAAAAAAAA

The album's last story is again about love lost, a man whose wife dies spends his time in remorse firing projectiles into the sky in an effort to kill the angels for taking away his wife. Eventually he does hit his wife, to bring her down from the heavens and ask her why she left him. Very, very disturbing. Of course, the dead angel doesn't give him any answers.

Mr. Que, Friday, 9 April 2010 15:21 (fourteen years ago) link

"oh btw we're massive Christians, you just got SAVED lol"

Oh man I would so watch them do an xtian prank show. "SURPRISE you just accepted Christ as your personal lord and savior, BITCH."

Ponies are horse children (Abbott), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

*sprays Faygo in face*

fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Friday, 9 April 2010 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link

if yr gonna DROP KNOWLEDGE & be all WE ARE THE PROPHET RAPPERS then shilling for sugar water directly linked to the rise in obesity that incidently disproportionately affects poor ppl & POC? ehhh

it just undercuts the entire message

― lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Thursday, December 23, 2010 8:34 PM (9 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 8 October 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

damn it change my 2nd "hate" to "eat"

⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 8 October 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link

i don't hate these kids or even resent their misplaced grasping at shared experience and human contact, i just think amidst all the backlash to the backlash it's worth reminding oneself that the fashion, vocabulary, music, cuisine, visual art, gender politics and philosophy of this SCARE QUOTES subculture SQUARE QUOTES are almost universally short-sighted, entitled and vile

none of which is to say that i'm not totally down with the clown; when these guys form a voting bloc, i'll be fucked if they're gonna indict me of messageboard libel

loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 8 October 2011 23:18 (twelve years ago) link

really think, aside from their attitude towards women, this is one of the least entitled subcultures in America

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 8 October 2011 23:22 (twelve years ago) link

That's a big aside.

pullapartsquirrel (Jenny), Sunday, 9 October 2011 01:38 (twelve years ago) link

i dunno man, there seems to be a real sense of "world's going to shit, grab what you can" going on among juggalos.

loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 October 2011 02:28 (twelve years ago) link

i havent dared step in to the suburbs thread but i can't help feeling all "get out of NYC for a day or two, bro".

juggaloes are a cross section of america's poor in the flyover states that have rallied around a musical movement.

⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 9 October 2011 02:36 (twelve years ago) link

lol, i spent 25 years growing up in a "flyover state" mr. kamakawiwoʻole
it's not america's poor, it's people who like shitty music
i have similar distaste for phish phreaks

loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 October 2011 04:32 (twelve years ago) link

then gtfo w/ the handwringing over sugar + processed foods

⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 9 October 2011 04:34 (twelve years ago) link

xp also dave matthews band nerds (list yr reasons why they are so bad and etc)

i will quit being a dick about this if you can point me to an icp track that i can find more enjoyment out of than, say, an r.a. tha rugged man b-side

loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 October 2011 04:34 (twelve years ago) link

dude, they pour more corn syrup into the crowd than gwar! you don't think this is salient?

loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 October 2011 04:35 (twelve years ago) link

ok bro granted, this is still an ILM thread, but this revive is about a 23 min documentary that is 0% - 1% about their music

⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 9 October 2011 04:36 (twelve years ago) link

eh, you're probably right. i really wanna like these kids more than i do i guess. they're just really depressing to me.

loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 October 2011 04:37 (twelve years ago) link

i'm not disagreeing with you!! i'm just saying that eating + drinking garbage is ~america, man~

⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 9 October 2011 04:38 (twelve years ago) link

oh they're mad depressing, but my point is that you can look at juggaloes as a silver lining to a much bigger and more depressing group/culture

⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 9 October 2011 04:39 (twelve years ago) link

well the people who make a big deal about NOT eating/drinking garbage are derided as effete hipsters!
can't win for losing
wait, the juggalos are the silver lining to the worst generation? plz explain (and plz stop saying "juggaloes")

loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 October 2011 04:41 (twelve years ago) link

juggaloes.

⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 9 October 2011 04:42 (twelve years ago) link

you're gonna get it.

loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 October 2011 04:44 (twelve years ago) link

lol at gr80's "get out of NYC and hang w/real folks" juggalo populizm

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 October 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/10/fbi-gang-insane-clown-posse/

The FBI considers the fans of shticky rap group Insane Clown Posse to represent a threat on par with the Crips, Bloods, and Aryan Brotherhood, according to its annual report on gang activity.

goole, Thursday, 27 October 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

seriously what

goole, Thursday, 27 October 2011 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

keynote speech by special agent f. clovetofu

ride the dronosaur (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 October 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

attn fbi: pull out the files you put together on the grateful dead in the 1970s. get a good chuckle. then, extrapolate...

goole, Thursday, 27 October 2011 22:08 (twelve years ago) link

they did something like this w/boston straightedge hardcore kids iirc

ride the dronosaur (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 October 2011 22:11 (twelve years ago) link

"the pernicious influence of the paramilitary vicious S1W's can not be overstated"

ride the dronosaur (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 October 2011 22:12 (twelve years ago) link

that i can get behind

xp well i'm sure they had people on that too!

goole, Thursday, 27 October 2011 22:12 (twelve years ago) link

"Worse, “Juggalos’ disorganization and lack of structure within their groups, coupled with their transient nature, makes it difficult to classify them and identify their members and migration patterns.”"

Midnight Maniac (J3ff T.), Thursday, 27 October 2011 22:13 (twelve years ago) link

on the plus side, blaze ya dead homie probably wouldnt have access to recording equipment in jail, because we arent fucking norway, so

ride the dronosaur (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 October 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

1 Less G n da Hood

wrestlingisreal420 (crüt), Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

A Social Network for the Underground Family!
http://juggalobook.com/

zappi, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link

that's totally going to be a 'bh ideas' type thing where there are more people signing up to observe lols than people on there already to lol at

some dude, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

lol @ everyone getting this thread wrong

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

calling this the wrong thread for juggalo talk at this late date is like that dude still crying 'this thread was supposed to be about the other MIA'

some dude, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

its just funny cuz this was originally meant to make fun of DOES ANYONE IN THIS BITCH LIKE ICP right?

very early ilx memories of these two threads.

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

oh right i guess people are using the parody thread instead of the og i see

some dude, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

lol @ everyone getting this thread wrong

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:04 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i lol @ the first post every time this gets revived

goole, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

(there were two "DOES ANYONE IN THIS BITCH LIKE ICP" threads & i intentionally chose this one!)

zappi, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

Welcome To The Black Parade
Chris Ben-WAAAAAAAH
2007 4 lyfe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RtqIb7Mwal8

It is in bad taste obv to have a song based around being like a child murderer but really, for meme-chasing, this is just shit.

yeep

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 July 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

my first reaction is "who gave these dudes a video budget"

keeping things contextual (DJP), Friday, 27 July 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

also this is the first time I've willingly played an ICP song twice in a row since 1997?

keeping things contextual (DJP), Friday, 27 July 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

tbf i don't know what band in 2012 must make as much money as one w/ their own week long festival where themselves+their mates are half the performers

one year passes...

I love this photo

Khalil AlHajal ‏@detroitkhalil 12m
FBI is being sued by Juggalos, fans of Insane Clown Posse. ACLU press conference. Still wearing the paint. pic.twitter.com/0TqZYBgLYD

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdeJp0pCEAAULdO.jpg

http://music.yahoo.com/news/insane-clown-posse-sue-fbi-over-juggalos-39-153022908-rolling-stone.html

3 4 A £ (onimo), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 16:48 (ten years ago) link

ten months pass...

Length: 12 pages (estimated)

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 01:25 (nine years ago) link

Length: 3 inches erect (estimated)

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 17:30 (nine years ago) link

this might be more appropriate for the crazy local news thread, but: Juggalos vs. Gentrification in North Portland

https://lintvkoin.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/juggalo-family-redacted.jpg

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

four years pass...

Going to this tonight
http://here.org/shows/detail/2057/

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 17:53 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/insane-clown-posse-trump-comparison_n_600769cfc5b6ffcab968790b

Violent J, who formed ICP with Shaggy 2 Dope, told HuffPost in a series of texts that he found Wood’s description to be inaccurate.

“I can’t believe TheAtlantic.com would hire a writer, presumably for his expertise in journalism who’s that off the mark, as well as an editor for his or her fact checking abilities who obviously lives within a reality separate from our own when it comes to defining who Juggalos truly are and what they’re about,” he wrote.

Unlike Trump, ICP also showed leadership in the fight against the coronavirus. The group canceled its yearly Gathering of the Juggalos the same month the president was downplaying the virus.

“The bottom line is that we REFUSE to risk even ONE Juggalo life by hosting a Gathering during these troubling times,” ICP tweeted last April.

Daniel Dale, a reporter for CNN, tweeted that covering the 2017 Juggalo protest “was the most pleasant reporting experience I’ve had in Washington. The Juggalos were unfailingly, sometimes comically friendly.”

That description is a far cry from the pro-Trump protest on Jan. 6 that eventually devolved into an insurrection that left five people dead, including a police officer.

In a follow-up text on Tuesday, Violent J said he was hurt to see Wood’s mischaracterization of the Juggalo community.

“The truth is it fuckin’ hurts and [it’s] scary seeing professional adults acting like savage bullies,” he said, noting that ICP fans make “easy targets because they’re so misunderstood.”

He added: “sad little bullshit like this makes me question the media in general and [lose] a little faith in just about [everything] I fuckin read!”

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link


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