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It was nearly 15 years ago today, Soundgarden dropped Black Sabbath's White Album. Heard it in the wind... saw it in the sky...

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# "Fell on Black Days" – 4:42 9
9. "4th of July" – 5:08 7
3. "Black Hole Sun" – 5:18 6
6. "The Day I Tried to Live" – 5:19 5
4. "Spoonman" – 4:06 4
2. "Head Down" (Ben Shepherd) – 6:08 4
1. "Superunknown" (Cornell, Thayil) – 5:06 3
5. "Limo Wreck" (Cameron, Cornell, Thayil) – 5:47 3
# "Let Me Drown" – 3:51 2
# "My Wave" (Cornell, Kim Thayil) – 5:12 2
7. "Kickstand" (Cornell, Thayil) – 1:34 1
8. "Fresh Tendrils" (Cameron, Cornell) – 4:16 1
10. "Half" (Shepherd) – 2:14 1
11. "Like Suicide" – 7:01 1
# "Mailman" (Matt Cameron, Cornell) – 4:25 0


butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Friday, 13 March 2009 05:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I remember this CD as being something like 80 or 90 minutes long which was frightening because I didn't think you could press a CD with that capacity, but it also sounded really muddy, so those two things combined made me suspect there was some shenanigans they were pulling to fit that many minutes on a CD at the cost of audio quality. Is that what they did?

Philip Nunez, Friday, 13 March 2009 06:09 (fifteen years ago) link

it's just 70 minutes.

s1ocrates (some dude), Friday, 13 March 2009 06:47 (fifteen years ago) link

really talk, this is by far my favorite grunge album, and i like a lot of grunge albums. "Head Down" and "Fresh Tendrils" and "Like Suicide" are all massive, and aside from "Black Hole Sun" I never really get sick of the singles.

s1ocrates (some dude), Friday, 13 March 2009 06:49 (fifteen years ago) link

may toss a coin to decide between "Head Down" and "Limo Wreck" later

This is the day when fisticuffs happened everywhere (country matters), Friday, 13 March 2009 10:45 (fifteen years ago) link

At the time it was Kickstand or Spoonman - I'm going to need to listen to this again though before voting.

Hreidarsson The Storm (Matt DC), Friday, 13 March 2009 10:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Black Days then, dunno what now.

Dom Cry For Me, Passantino (NickB), Friday, 13 March 2009 11:10 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm pretty impressed - with the album rather than myself, I think - how I can really vividly recall all the songs despite not listening to this for years. 4th Of July might just edge it due to hueg chorus

Luka ModReq (DJ Mencap), Friday, 13 March 2009 11:23 (fifteen years ago) link

9. "4th of July" – 5:08

Love this album, love it more than any Nirvana album. I re-bought it last year after not hearing it for probably 10 years. It didn't leave the CD player in my car for about a month. Never really known what any of the songs are called though - think I'll give it a listen over the weekend before voting.

First instinct is to vote for Head Down, though.

nate woolls, Friday, 13 March 2009 11:39 (fifteen years ago) link

the day i tried to live

He grew in Pussyville. Population: him. (call all destroyer), Friday, 13 March 2009 11:57 (fifteen years ago) link

When Helgeson bigged up "Pretty Noose" on that "Spoonman" thread, he wasn't wrong, as I'm now discovering. Put that song on here instead of "Let Me Drown" and we've got another contender.

This is the day when fisticuffs happened everywhere (country matters), Friday, 13 March 2009 12:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Hmmm, probably Black Days, but I might have to think about it. Let Me Drown is a great opener IMO.

chap, Friday, 13 March 2009 12:14 (fifteen years ago) link

"Mailman" is probably the only track here I have no real time for.

This is the day when fisticuffs happened everywhere (country matters), Friday, 13 March 2009 12:17 (fifteen years ago) link

(and listening to it now, it's not that bad!)

This is the day when fisticuffs happened everywhere (country matters), Friday, 13 March 2009 12:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I never need to hear Black Hole Sun again as long as I live.

chap, Friday, 13 March 2009 13:08 (fifteen years ago) link

i definitely had a spell with this way back (though not all the way back). vote for "The Day I Tried to Live" because of the part where cornell shreeks and the guitar fades in. or is it the other way round? maybe i should listen to it again...

sonderangerbot, Friday, 13 March 2009 13:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Also need to listen to this again, I know every note of it but several of the songs have obscure titles and I want to be sure...

Doctor Casino, Friday, 13 March 2009 13:23 (fifteen years ago) link

"Fell On Black Days" or "Spoonman."

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 March 2009 13:28 (fifteen years ago) link

or "My Way"! Lots of good songs here.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 March 2009 13:29 (fifteen years ago) link

i love "My Wave," at first it kinda felt like the lightweight pop song of the album but there's so many layers to the riffs and the rhythms and the whole outro is awesome.

s1ocrates (some dude), Friday, 13 March 2009 13:36 (fifteen years ago) link

the outtake/international bonus track "She Likes Surprises" is pretty awesome too

s1ocrates (some dude), Friday, 13 March 2009 13:42 (fifteen years ago) link

fell on black days.
i never want to hear "Black Hole Sun" again especially dont want to see the overplayed video.

She Likes Surprises is a great little song, yeah.

chap, Friday, 13 March 2009 13:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Lots of good songs here

no shit!!!!!

autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Friday, 13 March 2009 14:17 (fifteen years ago) link

im voting for "Kickstand"

autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Friday, 13 March 2009 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm voting "My Wave" for the twisty bass/drum interplay in the middle and the weird E power chord tuning that Kim Thayil used. (E-E-B-B-B-E)

lolling through my bagel (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 13 March 2009 14:33 (fifteen years ago) link

How are you listening to these songs? My Wave (all the singles really) always seemed to sound much better on the radio than on the CD -- more peppy if that makes sense.

Also which riff is Spoonman taken from? It's a 70s song and Rikki Rachtman busted Chris Cornell's chops for it on MTV, and he's all "shucks, you're right" but it's not very confrontational -- they're kicking back, bowling.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 13 March 2009 14:36 (fifteen years ago) link

The Day I Tried To Live

This record was a monster in every sense of the word. And it's aged really well.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 13 March 2009 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I remember part of Cornell's score for Singles included an acoustic version of the "Spoonman" riff, but I know that's not what you mean...really the rhythm/time signature makes the riff, if what he ripped it off from doesn't have that then he still made it his own.

s1ocrates (some dude), Friday, 13 March 2009 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link

My favorite album when I was fourteen- consistently strong songwriting for such a long album. And all the dudes in the band contributed to the songwriting. Ben Shepard wrote Head Down, definitely one of the high points. Haven't heard it in years, maybe I'll download it tonight. Anyway, I guess I'll vote for Let Me Drown just over the title track and Like Suicide. I'm kinda sick of the singles which there seemed to be a lot of for one album.

ColinO, Friday, 13 March 2009 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Listening now for the first time in years and really enjoying it. I'd forgotten how good Head High is.

chap, Friday, 13 March 2009 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry, I mean Head Down.

chap, Friday, 13 March 2009 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link

hardly seems fair to unvote "Black Hole Sun" for overplay... not a prob for me though since 4th of july low/high vox take the biscuit

butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Friday, 13 March 2009 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link

this record is flawless imo. i'm voting 'half' w/ 'the day i tried to live' a close 2nd

6335, Friday, 13 March 2009 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link

i always meant to check out Ben Shepherd's other bands based on all is songwriting credits on some of SG's best songs, anyone have any reccomendations?

s1ocrates (some dude), Friday, 13 March 2009 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link

argh argh argh Head Down or Limo Wreck....with a late run from The Day I Tried To Live :-/

This is the day when fisticuffs happened everywhere (country matters), Friday, 13 March 2009 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

fell on black days

69, Friday, 13 March 2009 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link

4tth of July, Head Down, Limo Wreck, Mailman, and The Day I Tried to Live in five-way tie for first...

Soundgarden = easily the most underrated band of the '90s...

sing everybody deutsche deutsche (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 13 March 2009 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link

best thing out of seattle since jimi amirite

butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Friday, 13 March 2009 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Not a letdown, but not what I was hoping for after Badmotorfinger. "Fell On Black Days" was the disappointment- the first song that sounded like grunge was falling into it own cliches of power-balladry (moaning, soft to loud build-up, awkward bad poetry for a hook). (I mean, Pearl Jam was already there, but no one respected them at that point...) But so much of this is great. (and in retrospect, "Black Days" is strong stuff considering Audioslave and Part of Me lay ahead) Because I've long had a weakness for Krawling Kromatic Kashmir riffs, I'd have answered "Day I Tried to Live" until recently. But for some reason, that spell has lifted. 'Cause I've rationed playing this record and don't hear the track on the radio, I'm voting for the Dingley-Jingly-Dear Prudence riffery of "Black Hole Sun." Tho' my single favorite Soundgarden song is might be "Pretty Noose".

bendy, Friday, 13 March 2009 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link

down on the upside is mightily underrated

butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Friday, 13 March 2009 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link

i have been feasting on "pretty noose" today

This is the day when fisticuffs happened everywhere (country matters), Friday, 13 March 2009 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I hope Thayil gets a second wind someday.

bendy, Friday, 13 March 2009 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Aw, he's only got 79 myspace friends. Good for him.

He was the brains of that operation.

bendy, Friday, 13 March 2009 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 19 March 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Surprised myself a bit by going for Head Down. I've been coming back to it a lot these past few days.

chap, Thursday, 19 March 2009 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link

am about to spin a coin to decide on "Limo Wreck" or "Head Down"

("Head Down" is tails, obv)

POLLonius (country matters), Thursday, 19 March 2009 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Limo Wreck wins.

POLLonius (country matters), Thursday, 19 March 2009 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Best of three?

chap, Thursday, 19 March 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Ultramega > Badmotor > Louder > SOMMS > Loudest Love >> Screaming Life/Fopp >> Superunknown >>>> King Animal >>>>>>>Down

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 8 June 2014 04:55 (nine years ago) link

yeah, i love Room a Thousand Years Wide. the voluminous sound & presence of the song reinforces the implications of the title in a metaphysical kinda way.

back listening to Superunknown now. never noticed before how Jane's Addiction-y Half is.

charlie h, Sunday, 8 June 2014 05:06 (nine years ago) link

can't believe i let you guy trick me into listen to Louder Than Love...

anyways the one Soundgarden track that was always my secret personal fav was the one off of the Basketball Diaries soundtrack, "Blind Dogs"

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 8 June 2014 05:15 (nine years ago) link

Can anyone explain the Soundgarden/Jesus Lizard beef

Seems Yow and co really hated them

Master of Treacle, Sunday, 8 June 2014 05:21 (nine years ago) link

I think Soundgarden may be ILX's favourite grunge act, threads on them are always overwhelmingly, enthusiastically positive.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Sunday, 8 June 2014 14:56 (nine years ago) link

so overwhelmingly enthusiastically positive that i feel like talking about how much i've grown to like king animal

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 June 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link

how did you know that this would be your fate?

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 June 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link

this song rules so much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcqghwWu2Vs

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 June 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link

yeah it was not bad. i really just wish they never broke up and had half a dozen more Down On The Upside/King Animal-quality decent albums, i would've been fine with those kind of diminishing returns as much as i am with Pearl Jam. better that than Audioslave and Scream, anyway.

some dude, Sunday, 8 June 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link

they're a band that sound great together, they could put out hookless whatevers forever and i'll be down. was surprised that my favorite songs on king animal are all cornell-written though

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 June 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link

i think he probably missed playing with people that could handle the weird tunings and time signatures and had a whole bunch of ideas saved up that he couldn't really put to much use for a decade.

some dude, Sunday, 8 June 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link

bones of birds def my favourite off king animal

it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Sunday, 8 June 2014 22:23 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

is 'black days' the best song ever to have used 'whatsoever' in a lyric

j., Saturday, 27 September 2014 22:58 (nine years ago) link

it's the only best song to use "whatsoever" in a lyric

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 September 2014 02:55 (nine years ago) link

undisputed champion

j., Sunday, 28 September 2014 03:02 (nine years ago) link

also scores big in the whomsoever category

Am utterly confused by how unremarkable album track "Fell On Black Days" has won this tbh.

― leigh exodus (country matters), Friday, 20 March 2009 14:50 (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

During this song I always feel like I'm just waiting for Mailman to start (I don't like to skip tracks)

a proclamation of tortoise intent (ultros ultros-ghali), Sunday, 28 September 2014 13:01 (nine years ago) link

srsly

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Sunday, 28 September 2014 13:03 (nine years ago) link

Mailman is the one I really came around to

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Sunday, 28 September 2014 13:04 (nine years ago) link

Man, 4th of July was robbed, such a massive song. Idk how that track was received at the time but it's weird to me hearing something so doomy on a relatively mainstream rock album.

a proclamation of tortoise intent (ultros ultros-ghali), Sunday, 28 September 2014 13:11 (nine years ago) link

my friends and i were teenagers, we just took it all ine

*nedlike flip of the hair*

j., Sunday, 28 September 2014 13:53 (nine years ago) link

uug relentlessly otm rn

its a kirt not a skilt (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 28 September 2014 13:59 (nine years ago) link

yes!! fresh fucking tendrils!!

― forkshighwaytopoopon (some dude), Tuesday, August 16, 2011 11:01 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark

― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, June 30, 2013 5:58 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:29 AM (11 months ago) Bookmark

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, June 3, 2014 7:48 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 28 September 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link

hi brad

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 September 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link

Fresh Tendrils getting one vote is insane.

29 facepalms, Sunday, 28 September 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

AND THE WRECK OF YOU

j., Sunday, 9 November 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link

WHILE THE REST OF YOU HARVEST GOLD

you fuck one chud... (stevie), Sunday, 9 November 2014 20:03 (nine years ago) link

WHILE THE REST OF YOU HARVEST THE SOULS

you fuck one chud... (stevie), Sunday, 9 November 2014 20:03 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

yes!! fresh fucking tendrils!!

― forkshighwaytopoopon (some dude), Tuesday, August 16, 2011 11:01 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark

― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, June 30, 2013 5:58 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:29 AM (11 months ago) Bookmark

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, June 3, 2014 7:48 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, September 28, 2014 3:39 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 7 February 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

cuz i fell awwwwnnnnnnnnn

j., Friday, 17 April 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link

4th of July best song they ever did. Best album is Badmotorfinger. Drawin flies and face pollution baby.

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Saturday, 18 April 2015 03:59 (nine years ago) link

yes fresh fuckin tendrils

three months pass...

/sponeman/

j., Monday, 3 August 2015 00:54 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

http://wesscholar.wesleyan.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1745&context=etd_hon_theses

Exploring the Superunknown: Composition and the
Music of Soundgarden

j., Friday, 24 November 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

yes!! fresh fucking tendrils!!

― forkshighwaytopoopon (some dude), Tuesday, August 16, 2011 11:01 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark

― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, June 30, 2013 5:58 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:29 AM (11 months ago) Bookmark

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, June 3, 2014 7:48 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, September 28, 2014 3:39 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, February 7, 2015 2:50 PM (four years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 19:28 (five years ago) link

Fell on Black Days winning is as weird to me now as it was four years ago

ultros ultros-ghali, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 21:32 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

25 YEARS

j., Friday, 8 March 2019 16:57 (five years ago) link

Wow. I just started listening to this album this week. I had always had something against SG when I was a kid that I never got over (excepting the Singles soundtrack songs), but I finally found my way in. 25 years too late I guess.

☮ (peace, man), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link

https://www.stereogum.com/2034893/17-essential-songs-in-74/franchises/ultimate-playlist/

respeckt to whiney

j., Friday, 8 March 2019 23:39 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

me: i have a lot of different drumming inspirations but i wonder who my favorite drummer of all time is

*listens to superunknown*

me: oh, it's matt cameron

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 4 December 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link

Man, I feel bad for Mailman - what a monster tune!

chap, Friday, 4 December 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

I swear the echo on the vocals on the title track sound just like Nilssons jump in the fire

calstars, Saturday, 18 November 2023 20:42 (five months ago) link

three months pass...

also 30 years old today

still really long

mookieproof, Saturday, 9 March 2024 01:27 (one month ago) link

I rate LTL higher but this is a close second
When you’re really alone, you’re superunknown

calstars, Saturday, 9 March 2024 01:36 (one month ago) link

I remember polling this album too, I'm such a screw up. Such a monster album, this with Alice in Chains were probably unmatched. If you take out Nirvana.

Bee OK, Saturday, 9 March 2024 03:31 (one month ago) link

Listened to it earlier this week with no idea it was the 30th anniversary, still their pinnacle for me. Head Down probably my favourite now, but Fourth Of July, Limo Wreck and The Day I Tried To Live all contenders too.

Let me drown > my wave is a hell of a twofer to open an album

calstars, Saturday, 9 March 2024 16:29 (one month ago) link

I like to start on track 3 and skip over “spoonman”

brimstead, Saturday, 9 March 2024 20:35 (one month ago) link

CC’s scream after the bridge on “drown” is so epic

calstars, Saturday, 9 March 2024 20:38 (one month ago) link

Would still rather have Giannis

also 30 years old today

still really long


Wish it was longer!

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Saturday, 9 March 2024 22:10 (one month ago) link


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