Fushitsusha: S&D

TRACK 5

^^ this! what am called?

offa dbllive2, I mean

I think 'Track 5' is the best you're going to get in terms of a title.

there are kanji characters but I can't translate them

So fucking massive and ugly and excellent. Way harsh and atonal, but still makes sense in my ears. Could be 1000x louder.

One of the loudest bands I have ever seen.

That track (of the 1st disc) is my favorite, too - has Haino ever screamed better than he does at the end of that one?

The whole of the double live discs are all I listen to by them. Which is enough. Its kinda perfect (even if understandably frustrating) that we (or I) don't know anything about the circumstances of its recording (when or where? was it a compilation of several gigs' worth? and yes, track titles?).

I should look at Julian Cope's book to find out...

^^ Me too. The Doubles Lives is all I got, and that's enough (as a start, anyway). OTM about the screams at the end. Also LOVE the way the vocals appear after like five minutes of cast iron grind, this echoey, plaintive question. Floats in and then out, almost like you imagined it, like some drowning person you see between the waves for a second before they're gone. It's almost shockingly fragile and human-sounding. And super-contrived, like everything Haino, but also awesome, and 100% emotionally convincing.

japrocksampler is about the sixties and seventies only. but hopefully there will be a part 2 in the future.

My comment about track titles stemmed from when I asked this question on the jpsyc mailing list and received the following reply from Alan Cummings:

You’re correct in that the obi and front cover bear the three characters for Fushitsusha (which of course in themselves carry a meaning).
The rest of the front of the obi is pretty interesting too. It reads, roughly:

150 minutes of soul transmigration Too long? Too short?
That depends on how your heart is enraptured The paradox of psychedelic

The rest of the booklet is pretty hard to decipher (deliberately, from what I recall), with some parts of the text being obliterated. There’s a lot of mystery there to revel in. For what it’s worth, they are all texts – no track titles or credits. I don’t think they are necessarily lyrics either.

So, apparently the booklet text isn't track titles, but mysteriously tangential texts, even if you can understand Japanese.

Cope, Keenan & Cummings should collaborate of Japrocksampler Part 2. Cope alone is too scant on actual facts and details for me personally. As long as there weren't major personality and ego clashes I bet they could write a truly awesome book together on the subject.

Wow. Thanks for the Obi notes, krakow.

Allegorical Misunderstanding is a completely different beast than the double live CD's. The live stuff is so intense and extreme I don't listen to it much. The experience is too draining. Allegorical Misunderstanding is much quieter and more reflective. It's the difference between sitting in a Japanese Zen garden and standing behind a roaring jet engine. I like them both.

Don't trust Cope really. Cummings on his own would be more than enough.

The others would add a bit of extra zest. I'd love for Alan Cummings to write a book about the whole PSF-related world of modern Japrock though really.

any thoughts on 'it was eternity'? i just have that and allegorical misunderstanding, and of those two it was by far my favorite. i think it's their first lp

i'm getting the second double live now, because of this very thread

Pathetique is IMMENSE...almost frightening...can't listen to it much. But it's a little more, i dunno...academic? intellectual? than the live stuff, which just kinda rawks.

While we're having a revival, I'll sneakily mention that I'm very much on the hunt for "A Death Never To Be Complete" and "The Time is Nigh", both on Tokuma from 1997, just in case anyone has them that they're willing to part with...

man, I love the 3rd track on pathetique. kinda gives me a blown-out jesus lizard vibe, actually. the whole album is pretty great but the last track is tough business and I'm not always up for it.

Cummings brings scholarship with just enough fanboy enthusiasm. He would easily be able to come up with something good on it.

"But it's a little more, i dunno...academic? intellectual? than the live stuff, which just kinda rawks."

Sorry but I'm not into this 'no hooks = academic' process here. I've been a fan of serial music for too long now and it isn't on!

The problem with most other Fushitsusha is the double lives have this special atmosphere. The molecules of air get burnt on the CDs, you know, plus I think the band as a whole are doing interesting things as a group of people. On some of the other ones I think the focus is really on Haino.

Having said all that I'd listen to Origin's Hesitation a few more times.