Nelly - "Hot in Here"

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Is this getting simpler by the second, or is that track too good to hold down?

― dleone, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If we hold the track down, can I kick it in the head a couple of times?

Honestly, I'd like it a lot more if it wasn't for the MIND- BOGGLINGLY BRAIN-DEAD chorus.

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like the slow, creeping Nelly songs better, but this ain't bad.

― Clarke B., Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I agree with Clarke - Nelly should stick to his usual producer and do more tracks like "E.I." But "Hot In Here" is pretty good, and the chorus is great. Everyone who think it's too simple should listen to Lil' Bow Wow's new (Neptunes-produced) single "Take Ya Home" and realise that "Hot In Here" is in fact a feat of complexity.

― Tim, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You're all spelling it wrong! It's Hot in HERRE. This is my favorite thing about the song.

― Ben Williams, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

best lyrics of the year!

― dave k, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

did they just release "take ya home" in australia? fuck, that's a great song. have you seen the video yet, tim? jermaine dupri is one freaky human being.

btw, the nelly song is great. my bellweather for good hiphop lately has been whatever dan hates.

― jess, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Haven't seen the video, but I must admit to kind of liking the song - the Neptunes trick of meeting out one trick per track pays off with an awesome cowbell-like percussion sound in the background, and although Bow Wow annoys the fuck out of me (he smirks too much + is now dressing like R Kelly) he often surprises me with how competent he occasionally is. On "Take Ya Home" there's this great moment where he says, "I ain’t trying to go wild like Todd Bridges on Diff’rent Strokes", and I wonder how the hell he knows what he's talking about.

― Tim, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yes, i love that line too. as a "pop personality" lil bow wow is a nonentity, but then again so is nelly basically. hiphop's been churning out great songs for a while now with fewer and fewer great personalities.

i'm trying very hard now not to make any r kelly jokes. fuck.

― jess, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah I thought I'd auction that joke opening up to the highest bidder. I'm surprised Dan hasn't responded yet.

― Tim, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"hiphop's been churning out great songs for a while now with fewer and fewer great personalities."

Your words are empty unless you actually bought that last Lil' Kim album.

(quite seriously, I could happily live off female rappers only. they're always better)

― Tim, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think it's because being a hip-hop "personality" is a very dangerous business. You either end up in prison or collaborating with Princess Superstar.

― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yes, but when did the first lil kim album come out?

(i haven't bought a hiphop album in ages. or any albums for that matter. sob.)

― jess, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

hands up, who'd take prison?

― jess, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

First Lil' Kim album came out in '96 or '97 I think, but I haven't gotten around to buying it because one of Kim is enough (in fact half of Kim is probably enough - the excelent "Aunt Dot" aside, < i>The Notorious K.I.M. starts to drop off quite obviously in the second half. Foxy Brown's Broken Silence is great the whole way through, on the other hand. (so buy those, Jess. Or buy Iron Flag, which I only just got around to picking up but am loving to pieces - "Babies" is brilliant!)

― Tim, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The El-P is very good *ducks*

― Ben Williams, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i was going to buy the foxy brown album as soon as i have money or i find it used. a local store has 10 copies of country grammar at 4.99 ea. should i pick it up?

― jess, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

and dave is making me a copy of the el-p album, which is good because i do want to hear it but i can't justify spending money on it.

― jess, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm thinking that the fact that there's 10 copies of it probably makes it a dud.

― jess, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I hadn't gotten back to this thread until now to make any R. Kelly jokes and now you've all stolen my thunder. *pout*

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Hot In Herre" (the extra R is VERY important) is great. "Take Ya Home" is great. If "Tape You" was released as the next single from _In Search Of_ (instead of stoooopid "Rock Star"), that'd be great.

― Daver, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I really want to stab that song in the throat. It's just HORRIBLE and the chorus is the end of the world. I wish anyone else had used that beat.

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Jess, Country Grammar ist KLASSICK

― M Matos, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The other morning at some odd hour, some friends and I were watching MTV and "Hot in Herre" came on. I said "Nelly is the new Morrissey, you know."

I have no idea what I meant, but surely Nelly is of comparable genius.

― Keiko, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Nelly is the new Morrissey, you know."

Great, now I want to punch both of them.

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It's fucking awful.

― Marc, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The first Nelly song I've heard that I don't like. Too simplistic and I'm not getting the "simple-but-good" vibe I sometimes get from songs.

― Vinnie, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

hot in heerrrreeee....best thing nelly has ever done...except the n sync tune that the neptunes did that was perhaps the best song eva

― geeg, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It is the first Nelly song I like. The entire track actually feels like a bunch of different choruses strung together.

― Honda, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I propose a bootleg version to celebrate Leni Riefenstahl's 100th in a couple of months. Call it "Hot in Herr Hitler" and mix some Nuremberg Rally samples over the rhythm track. Hey, the lyrics couldn't get any worse; besides, the video possibilities are endless. In the meantime, I'll stick wit "Ride Wit Me".

― B-Rad, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Nelly is the new Morrissey, you know."

Southpaw Grammar -> Country Grammar? There have been far worse stretches on this board, Keiko.

― Vinnie, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

no no no! ok, 'hot in here' isn't terrible - the jedi mind control chorus is kinda nifty. but nelly sounds far too strained at this tempo. like clarke and tim said E.I. should be the archetypal nelly track... have you ever tried walking through a room when E.I. is playing and not started sauntering?

― minna, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I have walked through a cafeteria while E.I. was playing and I did not want to spill my drink.

― Honda, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Simple chorus, simple yet complex beat- it's my summer jam.

― Todd Burns, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"stoooopid Rock Star"

huh? explain. smarter than rollout(my beeznaaaz)and that was clever

― Bob Zemko, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

HOW is it smarter than "Roll Out"?

― Dan Perry, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hot in Herre is mich better than the new Bow Wow song. It's straight to the point and tailor-made for some trendy dance club for the ladies and guys to sing each part of the chorus back and forth. It accomplishes it's purpose perfectly and I think subject-matter wise it is cohesive throughout, even if it is about something fairly simple. I admire Nelly's focus, and the beat's tight. Still: Ride wit me > Country Grammar > Hot in Herre > EI > everything by the St. Lunatics.

Speaking of Bow Wow, am I the only 21 year old white guy who will be going to see his new movie Like Mike on opening day? I love movies with professional athlete cameos, and I think the entire NBA is in Like Mike. Plus basketball just kicks it.

― John S., Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

y'know, as much as my first instinct has always been to hate Nelly, shameless pop appeal and ridiculous affections (band-aid on the face, wtf?) and all, when i actually bother to figure out what the hell he's saying, he usually has a few hot lines. http://www.ohhla.com/anonymous/nelly/rm_bside/in_herre.nel.txt

my personal favorite on HIH are the "pole in the basement" and "i think my butt gettin' big" bits, and "I got secrets can't leave Cancun". stupid jokes maybe, but they make me smile and i pump it up every time it's on the radio, even if it'll probably be way old by July.

― al, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

BATTER UP is the best Nelly single!!

― bc, Sunday, 30 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...

Revived as people I respect are calling one *the* singles of 2002, and I just hate it. Dan is quite correct the chorus is MIND- BOGGLINGLY BRAIN-DEAD. Remove Nelly's smug whining vocals and his laughable attempts at seduction from the mix (+ memories of heavy MTV rotation of another crap bikini video) perhaps I'd enjoy the Neptunes production more...wishful thinking.

....and no I haven't heard it in a club (thank god).

― stevo (stevo), Saturday, 19 October 2002 08:43 (twenty-three years ago)

i still think it has the best lyrics of the year!

― dave k, Saturday, 19 October 2002 09:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Why? I mean what is there to admire in lines like What good is all the fame if you aint fuckin the models? Enlighten me.

― stevo (stevo), Saturday, 19 October 2002 11:29 (twenty-three years ago)

i guess you like yr music humble, chaste and intellectual. good for you old boy.

― bob zemko (bob), Saturday, 19 October 2002 12:13 (twenty-three years ago)

("smug" is 2nd on my kill on sight list behind "pretentious". all about you and nothing to do with the track)

― bob zemko (bob), Saturday, 19 October 2002 12:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Thankyou Bob, suddenly everything is clear. I don't like 'Hot in Herre' due to serious personality flaws. BTW what kind of music would you describe as 'humble, chaste and intellectual'? Sounds fascinating. And how about telling me why you *do* like it. Like I said many people whose taste I respect love it to pieces.

― stevo (stevo), Saturday, 19 October 2002 12:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Ha ha look how much my opinion has changed (I still wuv "E.I" though).

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 19 October 2002 12:49 (twenty-three years ago)

I like Hot in Herre alot. It's as if the Neptunes just gave him this white canvas type of beat and he just flung paint all over it, totally Nelly, the production doesn't seem to matter. Also I love the "checkin your reflection and tellin' your best friend" part. Classic. Another tune which seemed to get better and better and better, all summer.

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 19 October 2002 12:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Love this song -- would you call this somewhat go-go? What's the relationship between "Hot in Herre" and "Bustin' Loose" -- does it sample it, or just remind me of it?

Tx.

― Mark (MarkR), Saturday, 19 October 2002 15:13 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...

it got a little worse, two years on. but still classic.

― cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 14 August 2004 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)

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