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Where does that leave Children Of The Night

'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Sunday, 13 January 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

Where does that leave Children Of The Night

9 months post-prom

mark e, Sunday, 13 January 2013 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

I like it because the guy writing the article depicts himself as a not-particularly-influential critic who makes an offhanded comment thinking nothing of it, and finds himself sucked into an a comically ominous battle with a soft rock B-lister. I think he approaches the situation half-wanting to blow off Richard Marx as some lame has-been, and so he never takes Marx seriously, just riding the wave of this bizarre experience to the point where he ends up having an uncomfortable face-to-face meeting.

“Explain to me why I’m shameless,” Richard Marx said.

Had I given it more thought, I would have written that Richard Marx was the kind of musician who wouldn’t be ashamed to record anything he thought would sell a million copies. But I didn’t want to say that to his face.

"You called me shameless in my hometown, where my family can read this.”

That was a douchey thing to say, especially since Richard Marx is married to a model and I’d woken up alone that morning. I let it pass, though. I wasn’t there to start another argument.

Poliopolice, Sunday, 13 January 2013 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

He took him seriously enough to meet him for a drink.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 January 2013 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

yeah .. i think thats pretty cool actually ...

mark e, Sunday, 13 January 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

Richard Marx was the kind of musician who wouldn’t be ashamed to record anything he thought would sell a million copies.

what does this even mean? As an artist I want to record a song bought only by the Edward McClelland claque?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 January 2013 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

i'm super-curious why marx is so worked up about the phrase "shamelesness," but why should a journalist be expected to explore that, or even defend his work, when he can just hem, haw, hand the offended a copy of his book about obama and write a tell-all later?

da croupier, Sunday, 13 January 2013 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

no question he gets defensive about music. Besides the Adam Curry kerfuffle, I remember reading an irate letter in his name after Entertainment Weekly made disparaging remarks about him in the mid nineties.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 January 2013 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

what does this even mean? As an artist I want to record a song bought only by the Edward McClelland claque?

It's doing what you want without concern for how it might be received vs. cynically doing exactly what you think will sell. Isn't this the classic 'sell-out' debate?

Poliopolice, Sunday, 13 January 2013 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

oh is that what the debate was about

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 January 2013 22:19 (eleven years ago) link

the sellout argument is kinda moot if you never liked him in the first place though, surely

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 January 2013 22:21 (eleven years ago) link

he's referring to the Alan Vega-Colin Newman collaboration that Marx left in the vaults because the record company wanted "Endless Summer Nights."

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 January 2013 22:22 (eleven years ago) link

haha

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 January 2013 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

It's not my argument that Richard Marx is a sellout. It's my argument that he sucks.

Poliopolice, Sunday, 13 January 2013 22:47 (eleven years ago) link

better log out before he reads you!

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 January 2013 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

was thinking of starting some shit with him on twitter

Poliopolice, Monday, 14 January 2013 01:00 (eleven years ago) link

omg his dad's name for real is Dick Marx?

NINO CARTER, Monday, 14 January 2013 01:04 (eleven years ago) link

i mean obv Richard = Dick but if that was my last name I'd probably just go by Richard like my son did

NINO CARTER, Monday, 14 January 2013 01:04 (eleven years ago) link

back on topic, Richard frequently plays shows at this Theatre called Plaza where all kinds of over the hill acts perform, apparently he began his last show with like a 15-min movie or something like that...

NINO CARTER, Monday, 14 January 2013 01:05 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Richard Marx ✔ @richardmarx

"Risque" clothing banned at Grammys but guys who beat up women? Come ooonnn downnnnn.....#goodcallgrammys

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 February 2013 03:33 (eleven years ago) link

Richard Marx = my favorite content farm

Drugs A. Money, Friday, 8 February 2013 05:57 (eleven years ago) link

that should read 'Richard Marx's twitter = my favorite content farm'

Drugs A. Money, Friday, 8 February 2013 05:57 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Listened to his interview on Low Times a week or so ago and he revealed that his first (or one of his first) recorded vocal performances was the "all niiiiight" background vocal on Lionel Richie's "All Night Long". Which sucks, because now when I listen to that song it's THE ONLY THING I CAN HEAR.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 16 March 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

Richard Marx ‏@richardmarx 28 Jul

The good news: Been asked to write/sing the love theme to "Sharknado 2." The bad news: The song has to be called "Sharknado, Too."

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 4 August 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link

I love this man:

Richard Marx ‏@richardmarx 27 Jul

I think as of last night I have decided that a Belvedere martini can be considered its own food group.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 4 August 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link

Richard Marx ‏@richardmarx 12 Jul

"@paisleyoungfan It's been 25 years since I saw you!" You'll be glad to know I found some scissors along the way.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 4 August 2013 19:44 (ten years ago) link

yeah, he's a treat

the pen is mightier than the penisword (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 4 August 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link

S- "Hazard"
D- most of the rest

Neanderthal, Sunday, 4 August 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link

>:(

the pen is mightier than the penisword (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 4 August 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link

what would you keep besides "Hazard," Neanderthal?

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 4 August 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link

I like "Endless Summer Nights", "The Way She Loves Me", "Take This Heart", and uh...probably a few more.

Neanderthal, Sunday, 4 August 2013 21:40 (ten years ago) link

"don't mean nothing", which i'd call the best fake eagles song ever except 3 of the eagles are on it so i'm not sure there's anything 'fake' about it, and of course 'hazard' are the only two i'll really rep for, there are a few others i can get more mild pleasure than mild annoyance from ("satisfied", "children of the night" a pretty big guilty pleasure, "endless summer nights" which could probably use more sax tbh). no use for "right here waiting" or "hold on to the nights".

until wikipedia had no idea he cowrote, produced, and played on this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQOmDUnt8Hs

balls, Sunday, 4 August 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link

yeah I said upthread it's a blatant copy of "The Long Run" but less obnoxious. I like the falsetto.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 4 August 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link

man for like a year and a half i've been moaning about spotify not having the eagles and how they're precisely the type of band i would never buy but would totally check out on spotify but now that they're on there i've been all 'eh, maybe i'll check out pink floyd instead'.

balls, Sunday, 4 August 2013 21:59 (ten years ago) link

"The Long Run has deep cuts!"

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 4 August 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

ended up playing the hazard video for a bunch of coworkers trying to reconvince them of his brilliance and ended up back down the Richard Marx rabbit hole. I realized I never did reup the first 2 albums as intended. I think today will be the day.

i really love the sound of his voice.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 January 2014 00:26 (ten years ago) link

ended up ended up ended up :(

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 January 2014 00:26 (ten years ago) link

I dunno about brilliance but "Hazard" is several leagues better than most of his stuff, and not exclusively because it's Serious Material.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 January 2014 00:35 (ten years ago) link

man it's amazing what my exchange with balls wrought

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 January 2014 00:35 (ten years ago) link

I read that very wrongly

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 January 2014 00:36 (ten years ago) link

well ok maybe not brilliance but everyone just laughs at his hair and he's so good!! sigh

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 January 2014 00:37 (ten years ago) link

lol i thought that also, it's like seeing a guy in 1963 go 'i think i might join the marines'

balls, Thursday, 23 January 2014 02:27 (ten years ago) link

well I didn't end up with the first 2 albums I only scored the greatest hits but a) used and b) 50% off because I am a regular shopper at that establishment so SCORE

anyway now I can listen to Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaangeliiiiiiiiiiiiiiia anytime I want

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 January 2014 21:02 (ten years ago) link

Albini interviews Fulks:

A: So, this has nothing to do with your music, but I'm gonna ask you about it. Are you familiar with—there's a short film that your lovely wife, Donna, has been asked to be in that I have also been asked to be in. Are you familiar with this?

F: Sure. I told her never in a million years to even approach you because you would be uninterested, but it sounds like there's a possibility you could do it.

A: Well, what happened is—it's a short film about a Twitter beef between a writer and a musical celebrity, let's say a slightly passe musical celebrity along the lines of a Richard Marx.

F: Like Groucho Marx but from Winnetka.

A: When I read about that original Twitter beef, my initial reaction was that the writer guy, who was all incensed about how cheap Richard Marx was—my initial reaction was that that guy was a cock and a half, and I hoped that Richard Marx punched him square in the nose. So I was curious to read the script, because I wanted to see if the script was from the perspective of Richard Marx or from the perspective of the writer. Or if it was from some external perspective.

F: Have you read the script?

A: I did read the script. And now I'm kind of creeped by it, and I kind of don't want to do it. But I feel like I'm an awkward position, because it seems like this guy has written this part for me to play me, saying things that I would never say about someone I would never say them about.

F: That's kind of why I told her that I didn't think you'd be interested in it. Because it's you playing you, right?

A: I think that's the idea. Were you aware of this Marxstroversy when it happened?

F: I guess I did read an article about it somewhere, yeah.

A: Secondarily, I'm a little freaked about it because I appeared on—there was a local taping of a podcast, the Scharpling podcast [Low Times]. It's Tom Scharpling from The Best Show. He and a couple of other people from the show have a podcast, where it's more related to music. Anyway. They taped it at the Hideout, Chicago's friendliest tavern, and they had me and Richard Marx as guests. So I actually met Richard Marx.

F: And he wasn't a cock—he was a nice guy.

A: Well, you know, he seemed like he was a little out of touch and maybe a little full of his own dump. But I find it really hard to think ill of a guy who's self-aware enough to come down to a thing where he knows he might get picked on. I thought that was, relatively speaking, big of him.

F: To want to punch a music blogger is an inherently creditable notion. (Laughter.)

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 January 2014 23:02 (ten years ago) link

he won't stop until he's satisfied!

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 January 2014 23:06 (ten years ago) link

is this really happening? now?

OutdoorFish, Friday, 24 January 2014 01:59 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Richard Marx ‏@richardmarx 3m

Today is the 25th Anniversary of Repeat Offender which scored 2 #1 hits, 5 top 15 singles & sold 10M copies #teammarx pic.twitter.com/xZBl4Ae5uc

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 March 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link

happy anniversary

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 March 2014 23:48 (ten years ago) link

eight months pass...
seven months pass...

On this day in '89 my song "Satisfied" topped the Billboard Hot 100. Going out 2night and celebrate its anniversary.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 14:31 (eight years ago) link


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