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Forget World in Motion. I've seen the future and it's Brazil 4 [] England 1!

― Ms. Nah, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

England 2 Brazil 1.

GO England!

― Geoffrey Balasoglou, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Pathetic! Everyone knows this match will be 8-7, with the ghost of Bobby catching the ghost of Garrincha dwelling on the ball, before popping it through to Owen to finish off the brave Braz in the 129th minute.

― Snotty Bobby Moore, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

As a, not very patriotic English man, living in Brazil with my Brazilian fiance ... right now is an interesting time. It's 3 AM here. The match starts in half an hour ... and things are starting to hot up. People are letting off fireworks and fire-crackers, and blowing horns. Once the game starts, it's gonna be bedlam!

My mother has given me instructions to support England. My work colleagues in the UK are confident of an English win. Here, the Brazilians, chastened by the tough match Belgium gave them, are tense, but expecting to win. The bars are full. More fire-crackers go off.

If England lose, my Brazilian friends will be conciliatory. If they win ... I might get lynched. In twenty minutes I'll wake my girlfriend so we can watch the match together. Outside the window people are starting to shout and sing. A car blares its horn.

― phil, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

and who do Basement Jaxx root for?!!

― Spencer Chow, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Camberwell Champs.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Wishing you the best, Phil. :-) Practice a Dutch accent if England wins.

― England Wins, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Half-time ... not the most exciting game so far ... both sides seem nervous of each other.

But Brazilian TV insists on saying that these are two giants of teams, and this is the first game of serious football in the cup

― phil, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

looks like you're safe!

― stirmonster, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If I'd known we could use ILM to talk about footie, I'd have been banging on about Ireland's superb performances ages ago. I mean Robbie Keane and Damien Duff - best strike pairing in the tournament, or what? Well, Brazil went through, but football is the real winner, as England and their negative, defensive tactics have been banished from the tournament at last! Rejoice! Ire-land! Ire-land! Felt a bit sorry for poor Seaman, though.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

how could you feel sorry for any man with a pony tail like that?

― stirmonster, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Och aye! I hate footy, but us Scots (at any rate this Scot) hate the English and were bloody glad to see their butts kicked!! Up Brazil!!

― Anna Rose, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

how's your team doing then?

― dyson, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Fucking david seaman! What a mistake, man. A great first and then he falls over, getting the extra injury time from which brazil scores from and then he gets off his bloody line for the second!!!

After ronaldinho got sent off it was almost as if we were embarassed to have given that goal away. But we finally felt the absence of Gerrard who would have then got us back, I reckon.

Only spain can stop 'em now.

― Julio Desouza, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"how could you feel sorry for any man with a pony tail like that?"

That was partly why I felt sorry for the moustached one.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

re spain - hard luck, the koreans have influential friends.

― chris sallis, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Is it seriously being suggested that there is some corruption involved, with match officials being told to make decisions helpful to South Korea at crucial moments? Would this be from Korean bribery or something through FIFA? I can't believe the latter - the officials couldn't be relied upon not to go to the press. I suppose bribery from outside is theoretically possible (has occurred in cricket and English league football), but there's no evidence for it other than a few bad decisions.

― David, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No evidence for now, that is!

― Julio 'I am a fan of conspiracy theories' Desouza, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If David is right it is simply unconscious bias towards the home side, which happens when match officials are influenced by an overwhelmingly partisan atmosphere (England's third goal in the 1966 final comes painfully obviously to mind).

But if Julio is right ...

Out of interest, was anyone else outraged by the failure to spot the German handball on the line in the USA match? I'm not ashamed to say it was the closest I have ever come to the "bloody cheating Germans" mentality.

― Robin Carmody, Sunday, 23 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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