The Moderat thread (Apparat/Modeselektor collab)

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No thread on this yet that I can find, other than a mention in the Apparat - Walls one. So, what do we reckon ILX? I've only listened twice through, but it's definitely pushing my buttons. With Apparat involved, it's going to sound great and it does, but it seems to have some excellent songs as well. A New Error, Rusty Nails and Seamonkey make for a really strong beginning. Big Burial influence on some of it (Rusty Nails especially - great breathy Apparat vocal on that one too) but it doesn't dominate.

Anyway, early days as yet but I liked it enough after two listens to pre-order it this afternoon.

Thoughts?

Chris in Belfast, Thursday, 30 April 2009 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I liked it -- my AMG review, FWIW.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 April 2009 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Haven't heard this yet but definitely looking forward to it.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 30 April 2009 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Finally, the "soon" has been replaced with Buy

http://bpitchcontrol.de/product/526

StanM, Thursday, 30 April 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link

It's £7.99 on Amazon.co.uk I think, that's where I ordered it from. As opposed to €18 on the Bpitch Control site. Free DVD too apparently.

Chris in Belfast, Thursday, 30 April 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

there will be an NTSC release too, thanfully.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 30 April 2009 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I like it well enough, but I do think the vocals are terrible. Luckily that only affects a few of the songs.

worldwide global pandemic (Z S), Thursday, 30 April 2009 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link

didnt really feel this at all

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 30 April 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link

basically pretty boring imo

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 30 April 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link

sounded like radiohead-meets-burial, but even less interesting

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 30 April 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link

i like apparat a lot tho

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 30 April 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link

it made me want to listen to the ellen allien & apparat album instead

lex pretend, Thursday, 30 April 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, there was maybe 1 or 2 interesting tracks but mostly i was just like, damn, wish this was walls/bubbles

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 30 April 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link

and also the apparat track on the luomo album

lex pretend, Thursday, 30 April 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, it made me want to listen to Orchesta of Bubbles. i sold my promo to Amoeba...

the table is the table, Thursday, 30 April 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link

really, it comes down to the fact that for me, Modeselektor is a great live performer but his records have always struck me as spotty.

the table is the table, Thursday, 30 April 2009 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link

it made me want to listen to the ellen allien & apparat album instead

― lex pretend

mostly i was just like, damn, wish this was walls/bubbles

― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max)

yeah, it made me want to listen to Orchesta of Bubbles.

― the table is the table

^basically this^

Only with me it also made me want to pull out Happy Birthday! and Hello Mom as well.

worldwide global pandemic (Z S), Thursday, 30 April 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I think it's great, but I'm wrong, apparently.

StanM, Thursday, 30 April 2009 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link

yep, too bad for you, but good you can admit it

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 30 April 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

found this really boring, but i pretty much hate on modeselektor, both on record and live, they were on some big beat shit last time i saw them live, and i'm not too keen on apparat's vocals.

Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Thursday, 30 April 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm quite enjoying this, but then I enjoy pretty much everything with Apparat's name on it. Not sure prettying up dubstep is really what I'd ideally like from him, but it's pretty good.

Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Thursday, 30 April 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

really, it comes down to the fact that for me, Modeselektor is a great live performer but his records have always struck me as spotty.

― the table is the table

that Modeselektor is such a crazy guy!

fandango, Thursday, 30 April 2009 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I still don't get the fuss over "Walls" at all, it's really mostly fluff (although the highs are very high). "Duplex" is a much more solid record.

I need to give this a proper listen but the samples inspired.. almost nothing in me tbh :/

fandango, Thursday, 30 April 2009 23:42 (fourteen years ago) link

The booka shade remix of rusty nails is pretty sweet though!

Michael_Pemulis, Friday, 1 May 2009 00:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Duplex was boring even by late-era IDM standards.

slugbaiting (rockapads), Friday, 1 May 2009 01:24 (fourteen years ago) link

well maybe what I feel is that it did all of the mostly good things about Walls first, minus the totally cringe bits, minus the over-polish and felt a lot more coherent. With a bit less range sure, but the range on Walls mostly extends to tracks that are pretty bad.

fandango, Friday, 1 May 2009 07:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't know what album y'all are listening to but I'm still thinking this is awesome and second only to Fever Ray this year. The DVD is pretty sweet too - mostly black & white & minimal, but very nice.

StanM, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Looking forward to catching their set at Dissonanze this weekend. Like the record v.much

Capitaine Jay Vee, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Modeselektor live 3 years ago was one of the most fun sets I've attended.
The minute of the Modeselektor set I saw last year turned me off them for good. Here's hoping Apparat can salvage them, doing what he did to them what he did to Ellen Allien.

Edward Saroyan, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 23:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Anyone else think the chorus of Stick With It should have been sung by Bowie?

StanM, Friday, 8 May 2009 10:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Depending on the version you get, you'll have two or four more tracks that aren't mentioned in any review since the promo only had 11 tracks:

http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:fjfqxz9kldde = 11 tracks
http://bpitchcontrol.de/product/481 = 13 tracks
http://bpitchcontrol.de/product/526 = 15 tracks (+ DVD)

StanM, Friday, 8 May 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

The amount of stuff that's going on in the background is amazing, I'm just discovering, listening with good headphones

StanM, Sunday, 10 May 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

One track in and I am digging this a lot.

Unclench, y'all, unclench (HI DERE), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

heard this yesterday for the 1st time, pretty great...not boring AT ALL

rizzx, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 07:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, listened again last night and really enjoyed it. Except Sick With It, hafta skip that one.

Chris in Belfast, Thursday, 14 May 2009 12:21 (fourteen years ago) link

it made me want to listen to Gerald Mitchell instead

cherry blossom, Sunday, 17 May 2009 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link

I thought they were amazing at the Roundhouse the other night. Anyone else go?

I bought the album yesterday but haven't had the chance to listen to it yet.

Germanic Street Preachers (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 07:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Got the CD+DVD pack in the post yesterday from Amazon. Fantastic packaging and 4 extra tracks.

Chris in Belfast, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 11:00 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah they were brilliant at the roundhouse. the tracks sounded a lot more dubsteppy live. it's really brought me around to the album

william snakespeare (braveclub), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 11:40 (fourteen years ago) link

This album is great, maybe the best thing that either act has ever done.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I downloaded this many weeks ago, but I'm just listening to it now. Kicking myself for not doing it soon. This. Is. Great.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 23:33 (fourteen years ago) link

soon=sooner

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 23:33 (fourteen years ago) link

This album is great, maybe the best thing that either act has ever done.

I don't know Modeselektor's previous stuff, but it's not quite Orchestra Of Bubbles or Walls. Still pretty great though.

Chris in Belfast, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 09:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Walls is pretty weak IMO

william snakespeare (braveclub), Wednesday, 20 May 2009 10:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Oof, have to disagree. Beautiful album IMO. Orchestra of Bubbles is the best thing he's been involved in though, for me.

Chris in Belfast, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 13:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Johnny Fever, if you downloaded it weeks ago *cough*, you might want to make sure you have the actual album version and not the promo. The promo was in mono, as mentioned elsewhere, and lacks some of the oomph of the released version.

mh, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link

So rich. I like it even more as time goes on.

StanM, Friday, 22 May 2009 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I just read the press release for this and it made me laugh:

"Szary and Bronsert, both proud fathers, were on their way to the "Stadtbad Mitte" (Berlin-Mitte City Pool) with their children for their regular Monday swimming lessons when they ran into Ring, a devout bachelor who happened to be
accompanied by several dubious females."

Goethe*s Elective Affinities, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link

"Yeah, listened again last night and really enjoyed it. Except Sick With It, hafta skip that one."

That song is really, really horrible.

Goethe*s Elective Affinities, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 19:23 (fourteen years ago) link

So much so that I took it off my iPod.

Chris in Belfast, Thursday, 11 June 2009 12:27 (fourteen years ago) link

I hope they mean a multiple fracture on one leg and not both legs!

is space noise (mh), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link

‘Bad Kingdom’, the first vocal-led track, begins with electro bass-stabs (SBTRKT comes to mind) before morphing into the kind of cloying post-rave pop that riddled the early ’90s (think The Beloved’s ‘Sweet Harmony’) – all leisurely breakbeats, church-y synths, angelic choirs and falsetto vocals.

Haha, he just described like half my favourite tunes from the early 90s. There's something wrong with anyone who doesn't like the combination of leisurely breakbeats and church-y synths.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link

nine months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK47r9AuYhs

Bad Kingdom, Damage Done, Nr. 22 - Electronic Beats Festival, Prague (28 March 2014)

StanM, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Complete festival show, last Thursday - will only be online for a couple of weeks:

http://concert.arte.tv/de/melt-2014-moderat

StanM, Saturday, 26 July 2014 18:28 (nine years ago) link

seven months pass...

Woooo!
https://twitter.com/ModeratOfficial/status/572846357557477377

StanM, Thursday, 5 March 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link

ten months pass...

III

Coinciding with a Spring 2016 tour Moderat return with their new album III:

Release Date: April 1, 2016

Intent on creating something that contrasted their own individual projects, Moderat ‑ the trio comprised of Gernot Bronsert, Sebastian Szary (aka Modeselektor) and Sascha Ring (aka Apparat) ‑ complete the trilogy with III.

III pairs an emotional pull with sensual imagery, creating dynamic sound and depth with sophisticated lyrics and themes as they direct their gaze inward.
Apparat gives unfiltered insight into his personal take on the journey we call life ‑ he is opening up, discussing his shadow, his fears and doubts.
Modeselektor reach another level, develop an intoxicating energy with their distinct rhythmical textures.

One of the best parts of Moderat is their use of electronics to achieve orchestral diversity. With III, they update the songwriting tradition with an intriguing palette, born of careful attention and skill, informed by their experiences with sounds of nearly 25 years of sub‑and‑club culture. These three were initially brought together by Berlin's now legendary rave scene and with this as their common foundation as individuals, III signifies Moderat's maturation in modern pop and mastery of the group.

Moderat's III is out April 1, 2016 on Monkeytown Records.
The trio will take their impressive live show all over Europe and North America in support of this release.

MODERAT III IS READY FOR PRE-ORDER NOW! ( http://www.monkeytownrecords.com/products )

MTR063CD - Digipak CD
MTR064CD - Digipak 2CD
MTR063LP - 1LP
MTR064LP - Gatefold 2LP
MTR065Box - Limited Box Set *
Digital Download **

* incl. download voucher
** incl. 3xCD, 3xLP (exclusive remixes, instrumentals and outtakes)

2016 Tour dates: http://www.monkeytownrecords.com/dates#moderat

StanM, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 17:08 (eight years ago) link

Nice gesture to offer a 1LP version. Tired of 6min flipping intervals.

the european nikon is here (grauschleier), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 17:32 (eight years ago) link

Oh good.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 18:18 (eight years ago) link

Any samples released? I'd love to hear this.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 18:20 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

No samples found yet, no.

Reminder/Fondle EP out on Feb 19th: https://boomkat.com/products/reminder-3f8e6921-8e07-493f-b672-0054563f445e

StanM, Sunday, 31 January 2016 09:38 (eight years ago) link

nice

StanM, Saturday, 6 February 2016 07:03 (eight years ago) link

Not available in UK :(

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 6 February 2016 12:13 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJwsNUoazUg

StanM, Friday, 19 February 2016 17:02 (eight years ago) link

This EP is wonderful

its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 19 February 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I'm still wondering if "the trio ... complete the trilogy with III" means they only ever planned to do three albums and then quit, or just that it's the third album.

StanM, Sunday, 6 March 2016 11:37 (eight years ago) link

Hey Stan sent me this but didn't post in here. 90 second teasers of the whole album:

https://www.deep.hu/catalog/MTR063CDD

This sounds excellent.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 14 March 2016 19:02 (eight years ago) link

I don't know if they're allowed to do that yet, which is why I didn't, but yeah. :-)

StanM, Monday, 14 March 2016 19:18 (eight years ago) link

Oops!

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 14 March 2016 19:44 (eight years ago) link

Leaked completely now

Oh, and there's a live EP with this month's (German) Musik Express magazine:

https://abo.musikexpress.de/produkt/musikexpress-ausgabe-042016-moderat-cd-live-in-berlin-xxvii-ii-mmxiv/
( https://www.discogs.com/Moderat-Live-In-Berlin-XXVII-II-MMXIV/release/8243150 )

StanM, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 15:57 (eight years ago) link

I'm really looking forward to this.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 10:37 (eight years ago) link

That live EP is fabulous, btw. Ordered the magazine and got it only a couple of days later (in belgium, from germany, ymmv)

StanM, Sunday, 20 March 2016 21:13 (eight years ago) link

1 hour special, interview and liner notes about every track (in German)

http://www.kraftfuttermischwerk.de/blogg/moderat-ueber-die-entstehung-ihres-neuen-albums-iii/

StanM, Monday, 28 March 2016 07:56 (eight years ago) link

(even though I don't understand everthing they're saying, there's a lot of new music in there too + some different work in progress versions of Reminder etc)

StanM, Monday, 28 March 2016 16:51 (eight years ago) link

Listening to III now, really nice

like Uber, but for underpants (James Morrison), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 00:20 (eight years ago) link

III is really growing on me

StanM, Saturday, 2 April 2016 15:08 (eight years ago) link

I've heard the first half, there are a lot more vocals that on their other albums (that's not necessarily a bad thing, but I like when they mix it up between tracks with vocals and vocal-free bangers)

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 3 April 2016 07:30 (eight years ago) link

I was at a wedding so I'm a bit drunk and this might not make any sense tomorrow but I just heard this album and life of pablo by Kanye and it's so noticeable how superior the production is on this album. Wishful thinking but i'd love to have moderat producing a kanye album. This is just sooo good a production and Kanye clearly wants to sound this good in his backtracks but doesn't know how. The mastering is fucking terrible on kanye and I want Moderat to shine in the mainstream because both modeselektor and apparat are so brilliant that they deserve to be known worldwide.

Don't mind me doesn't make sense but I'm drunk and I want to hear a moderat produced mainstream album.

Related: Finder is fucking awesome but this whole album is.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 3 April 2016 09:49 (eight years ago) link

Yep that doesn't make any sense. This is a brilliant album though. Everyone hear it, now!

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 3 April 2016 18:00 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVawpT44Hrk

EP out with Shed remix

StanM, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 15:29 (seven years ago) link

incredible live show, see em if you can

bitcoin bajas (diamonddave85), Sunday, 22 May 2016 05:57 (seven years ago) link

This album has really grown on me. Once I got used to the idea of a slickly produced electronic pop/R&B album with little connection to anything "techno", it was smooth sailing.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 23 May 2016 07:59 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC2_dOLpl7A

StanM, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 15:10 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

^ that was the complete Nantes show - it's still here: http://culturebox.francetvinfo.fr/live/musique/electro/moderat-au-stereolux-a-nantes-238561

StanM, Sunday, 12 June 2016 11:40 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

This album has really grown on me. Once I got used to the idea of a slickly produced electronic pop/R&B album with little connection to anything "techno", it was smooth sailing.

agree 100% with this.

i got the 2cd edition on a whim last week and was somewhat taken aback as i expected more of a techno vibe,
but given that i love the Rhye album, this has totally clicked with me now.

mark e, Thursday, 1 December 2016 11:54 (seven years ago) link

I find some of his vocals on this album a bit syrupy and overdone.

chap, Thursday, 1 December 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link

Theres a 2.5hr live album now, haven't heard yet

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Friday, 2 December 2016 00:52 (seven years ago) link

It's 75 minutes, Plus one track that contains the whole show again in one gapless file.

StanM, Friday, 2 December 2016 03:00 (seven years ago) link

Ah, well, that makes sense

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Friday, 2 December 2016 23:53 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

Was playing one of the angstier Moderat tunes the other day, girlfriend walks in and says 'what are you doing listening to Coldplay?' which has put me off them a bit. It's true he could do with toning down the vox sometimes.

chap, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:53 (seven years ago) link

They are playing live at Roskilde this summer. Should I see them?

Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:57 (seven years ago) link

yes.

StanM, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 21:12 (seven years ago) link

There's an old DJ Shadow track I loved that my wife ruined by saying it sounded like John Farnham, which is a mad opinion and also unlikely to make sense to non-Australians

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Thursday, 9 March 2017 06:29 (seven years ago) link

four years pass...

They're b4ck!?

https://m.facebook.com/moderat.band/posts/422408775913710

moderat.fm sends you to ticket sales for a show in Berlin in September 2022: https://www.monkeytowntickets.com/tickets

StanM, Friday, 15 October 2021 02:44 (two years ago) link

just in case... "MORE D4TA" happens to be an anagram of MODERAT 4

StanM, Friday, 15 October 2021 08:51 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.monkeytownrecords.com/moderat-announce-more-d4ta

StanM, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 12:09 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzMP2A66jIQ

StanM, Friday, 11 February 2022 18:29 (two years ago) link

there's a lot to read in those credits (3:17 for instance = ? )

StanM, Friday, 11 February 2022 18:33 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

I missed the release of Moderat II - 10th Anniversary Sped-up Edition and... it's a funny novelty release? I'm trying to figure out if it's basically the 33 1/3 album played at 45rpm

mh, Monday, 7 August 2023 15:23 (eight months ago) link


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